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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:05 |
My one and only HAWKWIND gig was 2012, Billboard venue, Melbourne. It was AMAZING, and I have to admit that this fellow named Mr. Dibs, was just OUT-f**kING-STANDING. Both on bass, and vox. The 3 tunes I wished that they perform from Blood Of The Earth, they did !!!! I was (almost) wetting my pants..... Now I've loved the Hawks from my entry point of Warrior, back in 1989, fuelled with THC, and eventually amassed a super collection of their albums. Practically no 2 are the same, yet retain an overall spirit no other comes close to. I bought a Tee-Shirt that gig, wore it on a holiday in New Orleans, and some random busker dude said " I love your shirt, man "....... That alone stood testimony of this great band's legacy.......
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:08 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
My one and only HAWKWIND gig was 2012, Billboard venue, Melbourne. It was AMAZING, and I have to admit that this fellow named Mr. Dibs, was just OUT-f**kING-STANDING. Both on bass, and vox. The 3 tunes I wished that they perform from Blood Of The Earth, they did !!!! I was (almost) wetting my pants..... Now I've loved the Hawks from my entry point of Warrior, back in 1989, fuelled with THC, and eventually amassed a super collection of their albums. Practically no 2 are the same, yet retain an overall spirit no other comes close to. I bought a Tee-Shirt that gig, wore it on a holiday in New Orleans, and some random busker dude said " I love your shirt, man "....... That alone stood testimony of this great band's legacy.......
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Was an awesome gig, eh Tom?! I still remember us yapping in the carpark afterwards for too long, and when we went to exit the complex, it had cancelled the payment because we'd stayed in there too long! Do you have that kind of green logo tshirt as well?! I still wear it often, I frequently get a couple of knowing glances over it....Well, more so than I do when I wear the Gentle Giant or Neal Morse ones!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:17 |
^ Yes Mike, all facts stand correct. You make me smile........I cherish that for eternity. Even when you tried to nab Howe's song-list at that Yes gig in 2004 (or thereabouts....). Damn bouncer-dude..... .....
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:25 |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:29 |
Hey, my sister remembers well, too.......you Prog-nutter.....
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:32 |
I hope your sister is well, mate, always thought so highly of her. Well, you know, both of you! Yes, I think tempers were strained at the Yes show, after the `Sebastian Hardie' incident!
Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - December 04 2014 at 01:36
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:37 |
Now you recall...... I am so pissed to this day, as is my sis, Rob, that they pulled the plug on SH right at the climax of Openings...........I do admit that I was more blown away by Sebastian than Yes.......
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 01:48 |
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Now you recall...... I am so pissed to this day, as is my sis, Rob, that they pulled the plug on SH right at the climax of Openings...........I do admit that I was more blown away by Sebastian than Yes....... |
Yeah, same here, totally agree. SH's Mario Millo, absolutely aiming for the skies with the grandest of majestic electric guitar solos, and then the roadie kicked the plug on their power. I swear, it was like watching a guy about to climax with his woman and then having his manhood severed altogether! Hmmmm, sorry, that's a little graphic! But it was definitely karma that the Yes set was plagued with sound problems. Remember Skeletor, er, I mean Howe cracking the sh*ts during his acoustic spot?! ***** I wonder if we'll ever get Hawkwind out here again? I really wish Gong and Daevid Allen (if he were currently well enough) would play some Australian shows. Apparently Tangerine Dream are possibly coming back again next year...so SOME acts think Australia is worth playing.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:00 |
Oh, that's so amusing what you said of that record fair vendor and Daevid's son....... ....was is Tally or Orlando..........?? I'm sure they met the cockpit pixie ......... More than thrice ...
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:17 |
I have been a massive Hawkwind fan since the mid 1970's. However. Hawkwind started out as a fantastic, novel and utterly different band. Then - after 1976 or so, they sold out and produced lazy, predictable, boring music. Now they're just Dave Brock's retirement fund.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:20 |
^ That's harsh, but I can see where you're coming from - heard many folk state this very ideal.
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:25 |
I actually thought `Blood of the Earth' and `Onward' were very impressive and consistently strong modern albums from the group.
Sure, the band has had many inconsistent and frustrating releases, but there's almost a couple of killer tracks on all their albums.
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:30 |
Hi Tom, put on Space Ritual. Earth calling, born to go etc. Then put on Choose your Masques. You wouldn't think it was the same band.... you'd be right. Someone once said that Space Ritual was all you needed in a Hawkwind collection. I rate everything up to and including Quark, Strangeness and Charm. The rest is not a "people's band" doing "weird space rock", it's a collection of aging sell outs releasing the same old tired, formulaic rubbish again and again to people who are too stoned to notice.
Harsh.... but true. Alas.
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:54 |
As a PS. My last album was massively influenced by Hawkwind / Tangerine Dream. https://brotherhoodofthemachine.bandcamp.com/album/trip-hazard Hawkwind are often cited as being a highly influential band by UK musicians - especially John Lydon. They were also labelled as the "godfathers of punk", basically because of the energy they played with. However. When you look at the discography, Hawkwind were *not* innovative. They merely reflected the tastes of the day - they actually were a commercial venture right from the start and a lot of the "anti-music" stuff is just propaganda.
For example, the first album is a reflection of the psychedelic era. It then becomes more krautrock in nature... proper krautrock albums were difficult to find in the UK in the early 1970's (and most were better than Hawkwind's imitations.) By 1979 and the rise of Bloody Heavy Metal, the band were releasing shockingly bad albums such as "Live 79". They just followed trends.
Part of the Hawkwind mythology is that they did a lot of drugs. I've been to Hawkwind conventions and yep, I can tell you now that they certainly did. However. The sad old stories about them being utterly out of their minds have been somewhat beefed up..... you can't play at all when you're that wasted.
Mind you, listen to "Bring me the head of Yuri Gagarin" at some point. It's a bootleg which shows what Hawkwind were really like for a lot of early 70's gigs. Terrible. ;-)
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 02:57 |
Oh dear - those comments render something as magical as Electric Tepee as next to useless....?? I love what they stood for, all those years ago, and being 42, I hardly know exactly what it is/was they stood for, but I perceive the spirit of it all as I do..... Anyway, Brockvaleays led his fellow space-cadets down many unknown and adventurous alleyways, so I can only accept their amazing space-rock as its presented.
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 03:19 |
Oh dear, Electric Teepee. ;-)
Hi Tom, just think, at the time, the "underground scene" in the UK involves kids with dreadlocks, baggy jumpers and dogs on bits of string all pretending to anarchically wreck the system. So Hawkwind brought an album out which would pander to their fantasies.
When you look at it like that, it all gets a bit "commercial" rather than "music / art", doesn't it ? Now, I'd have no problems with a band being commercial, but Hawkwind always sold themselves as some kind of Peoples Band, playing free gigs, supporting good causes, didn't they ? So it all becomes very hypocritical.
Hawkwind will probably keep on going after Dave Brock kicks the bucket, because... it's a brand name. They just don't know when to stop, which really should have been around PXR5. The fans / fanatics hang on because nothing sounds exactly the same, and a proportion think they're "underground" in some kind of proto-terroristic (I refer you to Urban Guerilla Bob Calvert) anti- establishment, edge of music manner. The band are about as underground, musically innovative and anti-establishment as an old people's home. They are now propped up by those who are too stoned/lazy/hidebound to care.
What a sad, but inevitable, end.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 03:33 |
My answer to all that - Pink Fairies - Never Never Land...... Approaching it from my 'brain-fried' perception, I appreciate their output, even if its worlds away from their roots. Please, allow me that much.....
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 03:34 |
Oh, we still have the Ozrics, when all is said and done, Ozrics come to the rescue.....
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 03:43 |
If only, Tom. Didn't they make £1.5 million in about three years - by, er, playing music that would sell ?
Rather than playing music ? ;-)
Non commercial music is much harder to find than everyone thinks. Outside of Germany in about 1968, I should think.
This is why I tend to like the modern music scene. You will occasionally come across a few people who genuinely want to do something different and aren't bothered about money. Me, for example. ;-)
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 03:50 |
There always an element of risk when dabbling with non-commercial avenues. Even something like 'The Residents' are almost commercial in their approach to being 'anti-commercial'..... Perhaps any album that flops is really a successful non-commercial offering....
Edited by Tom Ozric - December 04 2014 at 03:51
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