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Ronnie Pilgrim 
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 Posted: January 06 2011 at 17:10 |
@op wtf i sure hope u txt that from ur phone while driving
Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - January 06 2011 at 17:15
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 17:38 |
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best thread ever
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yanch
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 17:51 |
No, Collins is not better than Gabriel and your arguments do not support your position. Phil is not a better singer, he just sounds different. Peter was clearly the better frontman, he had less to work with as far as sophisticated light shows and technology. Instead he used costumes and theatrics to bring the music to life. Last but not least, there is no comparison to the songwriting of Gabriel era Genesis. I can't name one Collins era song that is better than Gabriel era songs and that includes songs from Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering, which are both very good albums. Collins era may sound better because they had the benefit of a bigger budget and better recording technology. Don't confuse sound/recording quality for better music.
Last but not least, as others have mentioned-write in English!!!!!!
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 17:51 |
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You will get blue font. |
Ok...I just made pee-pee and doo-doo in my pants and in between the two I farted......
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 18:19 |
Rush77 wrote:
now im scared
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Prog Geo
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 18:35 |
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Of course I like more Gabriel era but I would like Phil Collins to be the frontman in these albums.I like his singing.
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 18:36 |
Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:
@op wtf i sure hope u txt that from ur phone while driving |
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 18:37 |
But seriously, why must we continue these arguments that get us nowhere?
Both are great, end of story. There.
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 18:38 |
I like both eras for what they are and have no complex mental ego dilemmas that make me doubt and try to choose one over the other to be able to enjoy them for what they are.
/thread.
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The_Jester
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 18:42 |
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Phil Collins' era is pop, pop, pop and comercial pop. Not prog at all.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 19:02 |
The_Jester wrote:
Phil Collins' era is pop, pop, pop and comercial pop. Not prog at all. |
Nah. Its prog, prog, pop-prog, pop-prog, pop-prog, pop, commercial pop and commercial pop.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 19:13 |
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When it comes to their non commercial material I rather like them about the same. OMG
Edited by Slartibartfast - January 06 2011 at 21:52
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 19:17 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
Phil Collins' era is pop, pop, pop and comercial pop. Not prog at all. |
Nah. Its prog, prog, pop-prog, pop-prog, pop-prog, pop, commercial pop and commercial pop.
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 19:44 |
I'm not much of a Genesis fan, but the Gabriel-era band was far superior to the the Collins-led band.
That said, outside of Genesis, Collins' work in Brand X beats anything Gabriel has done, although Gabriel's solo albums are better than Collins'.
But Collins is/was a way better drummer than Gabriel could ever be.
I've lost track of the points, so I suggest they settle this with a steel cage match.
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Rush77
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 19:46 |
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Ok i knew people would have misinterpreted this so I'm gonna clear some things up. One yes the typing was in text language just cuz its easier to type that way. Two I meant Phil's singing sounded more natural as opposed to Peter who felt more forced in my opinion Two I'm not saying the Phil era was better due to album sales or technology or whatever, Im saying that the Phil era was more of their sound and fit them better than with Peter and i dont hate Peter i love the Peter Genesis and the first album from genesis i heard was Foxtrot and i thought it was amazing but when i took an honest look at everything i personally enjoyed the Phil era more that's what i was saying. I was just stating my opinion and Im sorry if anyone misread what i typed
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 20:02 |
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How could we possibly misunderstand you? You commenting was double plus good.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Evolver
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 20:07 |
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eleventy11!11!!111111!
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 22:24 |
Prog Geo wrote:
Of course I like more Gabriel era but I would like Phil Collins to be the frontman in these albums.I like his singing.
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Exactly my feelings. Though some parts would have needed to have been sung by Gabriel anyway. And his flute, though little used, was important to the sound of those early Genesis albums.
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catfood03
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 23:36 |
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And Big Macs are better than real hamburgers. Why? They sell more of them. |
Rush77 did not imply that commercial success is why Collins era is better. I'm not surprised anymore how Collins fans are chastised here as being disingenuous, lacking good judgement, or simply insane. (ok, the latter two charges could stick). Also like the OP I love both eras, and even don't mind Wilson's stuff. Some art can be comerrcialy sucessful and good music. I make no secret of my love for Invisible Touch. Is it better than Lamb? No, but aside from excessive radio play (hence the "success", it has many well-crafted songs. oh, and Rush77, everyone is right... yr posts r hard 2 read
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Chris S
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Posted: January 07 2011 at 00:09 |
Collins by a peruvian mile 
Seriously both era's are gorgeous made a success by their backing band/s
Edited by Chris S - January 07 2011 at 00:10
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