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ProgBagel
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 13:27 | ||
Its just as good as any other genre on the archives. If I feel the need to be blown away with sheer talent and precision...I'll listen to this. This genre has been on my priority list lately with bands that I've discovered the past few months like Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect, Sleep Terror, Unexpect, Canvas Solaris, Blotted Science and Behold...The Arctopus.
Dsyrthmia??? and Continuo Renacer (sp???) impressed me as well. |
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Easy Money
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10619 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 14:24 | ||
I'm an old guy from the 70s and I think some of these new metal bands are incredible. Its not something I want to listen to a lot, but these artists are definitly "progressing" rock music to new places.
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 15:54 | ||
It's not that hard - although it's tenuous (hence the winky).
Marty Friedman is the link I had in mind - although there are others.
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21206 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 18:23 | ||
Check out Becoming the Archetype too if you don't know them already: http://www.myspace.com/becomingthearchetype |
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ProgBagel
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:01 | ||
The one thing that boggles me about this genre is on how to rate it...or think which one is better then which?
I place UnExpect's - In A Flesh Aquarium at the top...5 stars no doubt. I just listened to Spiral Architect, Aghora, Spastic Ink and Behold the Arctopus (skullgrid..not nano nucleonic,an utter masterpiece ,...all excellent albums...but so hard to choose. They would all fit the 4 star album pool. It's just so hard to put one over the other, which one sounds better, more technical? ARGHHHH |
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Shakespeare
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:07 | ||
I still don't really see difference between the three metal genres.
Personally, I still endorse the idea of very few subgenres, and if there were to be any cuts, lobbing all the metal together would've been a place to start. But it's not a huge deal for me, I can live with any decisions PA maketh. |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:46 | ||
Just brought Akeldama by The Faceless, on the recommendation from a trusted friend. I don't think I have enjoyed a DM album so much since The Scepter of the Ancients. I see they are on the PM chart, if they get accepted I will be more than willing to add them.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 22:17 | ||
I just added them to the chart a few days ago,excellent stuff.
I love this kind of music,and their are two bands in this sub that everyone really needs to check out...Coprofago and Theory in Practice.I would recommend Coprofago's Unorthodox Creative Criteria and TiP's album Colonizing the Sun.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: October 25 2007 at 22:38 | ||
Jody I will keep an eye for the two aforementioned albums next time I'm out shopping. I really have not listened to a lot of this music since I was attending school.
I would also like to suggest two Canadian bands. Firstly Martyr, all their studio albums are recommended, I think my favourite would be Warp Zone. The second is Augury, they only have one disc out, but it's definitely worth tracking down. There is a sample on the site to listen to: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12849. |
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FruMp
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 322 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 01:55 | ||
How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 26 2007 at 02:45 | ||
Seems like the same kind of thing as technical metal to me - the riffs may be quirky and full of twists - but they're still repeated riffs, and the songs maintain very simple song structures with multi-section bridges. The overall sound is constant and fits into a very tight, easily identifiable narrow spectrum. In this, there's no difference to standard metal - the difference is only in the detail, not the whole.
What I've heard of them is not progressive to my ears - and certainly not avant-garde! John Zorn is avant-garde, as are Spastic Ink, to a lesser degree.
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FruMp
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 322 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:12 | ||
1.the advance group in any field, esp. in the visual, literary, or musical arts, whose works are characterized chiefly by unorthodox and experimental methods. Based on that definition I don't see how they couldn't be considered avant-garde. |
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Visitor13
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:41 | ||
Mmm, which Gorguts album(s) have you heard? Obscura? Just wondering. |
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 09:44 | ||
Have you heard Martyr's newest album Feeding the Abscess?I think it is light years ahead of Warp Zone,which is also an excellent album in its own right.
Anata is worth checking out too.
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FruMp
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 322 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:43 | ||
yup |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:46 | ||
Funny this thread pops up when I listen to Cynic for the first time.
Focus was pretty much awesme, amazing vocals and musicianship, I'm getting the album on monday!!!!
Best death album please?
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:47 | ||
I second the recomendation!
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FruMp
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 322 |
Posted: October 26 2007 at 22:47 | ||
Human if you're a death metal fan, symbolic if that's a bit too heavy for you. |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: October 27 2007 at 00:11 | ||
For me, it's probably more a matter of timing. I listened to Warp Zone a lot back in '02/'03, but when Feeding the Abscess rolled around, my tastes in metal were predominately targeted towards doom (and a bit of black). So in turn it didn't grow on me as much as their previous album. |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: October 28 2007 at 18:11 | ||
Bump
I really dont care how heavy the album is, as long as it's not stupid heavy. THanks Frump
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