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^LOLLOL

Lyrically, this release does not praise the imaginary one. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2021 at 18:05
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Just one thing, why does Neal look so pissed off in all his photos for this release?
Oh, Neil and God had an argument. He'll get over it. Great album, btw.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2021 at 18:26
God must’ve been pretty pissed about the abridged version
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2021 at 10:26
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Scott and Doug. Thanks for the kind words. I needed a break.

What do y'all think of Pete's bass playing? His tone, growl, and the notes he plays is so so good. He carries this release to a higher level. His signing?? - not so good. But Mike's lead vocal tune smokes. Best I've ever heard him sing. Maybe it's just the shine of this being new to me, but I can't stop listening. And the mix/master courtesy Rich Mouser makes my ears happy.

Pete is truly the unsung hero of the album. He's just on fire throughout!!! The singing...not so much!!!

But "Looking For The Light" is Mike's best ever vocal turn.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2021 at 13:26
IMHO Pete's singing used to be better back in the day. But on this album it's still ok.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2021 at 15:43

I took the song Solitude and edited out the "Love Made a Way" sections with Neal's vocals down to 3:54 minutes. Now it sounds way better. xD

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2021 at 19:47
Rainbow Sky - beautiful song with an ELO kind of vibe.
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OH YES, BABY! LET'S GO!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2021 at 04:31
There's an interesting "round table review" on DPRP: five of their reviewers talking about the same album.
I listened to the album and I can only - and completely - agree with Jerry van Kooten's take on it (although my rating would be slightly less severe).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2021 at 05:46
I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2021 at 06:04
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

who's Jerry van Kooten and why should I pay attention to him?
I haven't listened to the new album yet, but I will try soon enough. EmbarrassedTongue


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2021 at 15:09
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

LOL You definitely have the "darn right" to like that album! LOL

I read DPRP since its beginnings, 25 years ago, and I like it that they do those round table reviews - when you know a bit the preferences of the reviewers it is often very informative and instructive.

@Cristi: You don't have to pay attention to him, but you might be interested in what he writes. Jerry van Kooten is a reviewer at DPRP since a very long time (maybe since its start, but I might be mistaken about that. I met him a couple of times during different Pallas concerts, somewhere in the previous century - a sympathetic guy, which of course does not mean that I always agree with what he writes, but this time I do. The four other reviewers are very positive about the Transatlantic album...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2021 at 15:24
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

LOL You definitely have the "darn right" to like that album! LOL

I read DPRP since its beginnings, 25 years ago, and I like it that they do those round table reviews - when you know a bit the preferences of the reviewers it is often very informative and instructive.

@Cristi: You don't have to pay attention to him, but you might be interested in what he writes. Jerry van Kooten is a reviewer at DPRP since a very long time (maybe since its start, but I might be mistaken about that. I met him a couple of times during different Pallas concerts, somewhere in the previous century - a sympathetic guy, which of course does not mean that I always agree with what he writes, but this time I do. The four other reviewers are very positive about the Transatlantic album...

I read Jerry’s review, and it is extremely well written. I rather like the album, actually, probably their best effort since the amazing debut, but an honest review is always far superior to a sycophantic one.
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I just don’t get all the negative vibes about the new albums. The posts of it sounds different from the others, it is a stupendous slab of PROGRESSIVE ROCK !!!
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Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?



Interesting
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I have the Forevermore version and I love it. This and The Whirlwind I would say are my favourite TA albums, though parts of the first album are amazing too. All Of The Above is one of my favourite prog epics, and I love We All Need Some Light. I find the second album a bit too heavy in places for my tastes, but the title track is beautiful. Kaleidoscope was a bit disappointing after The Whirlwind but The Absolute Universe is a definite return to form.

I would agree with many of the comments above, Mike's singing on Looking For The Light is his best ever, Rainbow Sky is a brilliant song, and Pete's bass on The Darkness In The Light is amazing. I also like the songs that Roine sings, many of them have a strong Flower Kings vibe to them.

I've listened to the abridged version once (on Spotify) and I wasn't particularly impressed. Maybe I need to listen again.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?

That guy needs to take some medicine or go use that toilet, can't handle all that moving back and forth. There are tons of reviews out now.

Having spun the album several times, it has really shown me a return to what I think of with Transatlantic which is SMPTe and The Whirlwind. I have Forevermore (Extended Version) and am really happy with the outcome.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2021 at 10:22
^^^ haha yeah I didn't want to say anything cause there could be some underlying cause to that, but man that got annoying after about 3 seconds.

As for the actual topic, I made my thoughts pretty clear in my review how I felt about the different versions
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2021 at 07:42
I really do see value in both. They have different vibes.
Forevermore is very much like The Flower Kings' Islands and The Breath Of Life is similar to Neal's Sola Gratia.
And I preferred Sola Gratia so I am leaning into the shorter version lately.
But then I miss "Bully" and "Rainbow Sky." And I'm back into Forevermore.
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