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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2018 at 13:32
The 'Genesis sound' (''what ever that means'', as has already been pointed out) has always been evolutionary. If one listens to (or reads about) what the band themselves over the years have said, it is that originally each member brought whatever ideas and themes they had to the practise sessions and these were worked through and bits and pieces accumulated, built up & broken down. Most of the post FGTR/ Pre- Trespass material stored up through this process was recycled over the 3lps that were to come. SEBTP didn't contain any of those older pieces and themes and was definitely a sea-change in how they composed (or not..) as a group. The Lamb did contain some recycled pieces from the '69 period such as 'Anyway' (which appeared with completely different lyrics on the 'Genesis plays Jackson' sessions) and lilywhite Lilith.  I personally don't think there is a 'locked down' Genesis sound but even up until Wind & Wuthering they had a very definable characteristic which established very early on. I think 'Yes' are a perfect parallel in that the first Yes lp was very definitely 'Yes' in sound even if it had a journey to go on before they reached 'Close to the edge'.. playing both lps back to back shows that apart from technological development and compositional maturity, you are definitely listening to one band with one definite sound.

Just another life-long fans personal viewSmileWink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2018 at 14:10
I think the sound could arguably be said to have been laid down by White Mountain. Then again maybe it was with Looking For Someone. Then again maybe it was Stagnation. Then again maybe it was Musical Box, which pervaded the classic era, being played as an encore even into the Lamb tour. Then again maybe it was the Jackson tapes, as one suggested. Then again maybe it was one of the live staples like Going Out to Get You, which are poorly attested even in bootlegs, but had a very characteristic Genesis-style orchestration. Then again maybe it was (d) all of the above.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2018 at 01:38
I can't add anything to the thread other than this must be the most typical PA discussion ever. Personally I think they finally locked it in on ATTWT. Banks was , still and forever will be a control freak. Once he had removed Gabriel and Hackett from the equation he was able to make it totally his own. I do actually love that album though probably because its so focused on the Genesis sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2018 at 20:09
^We'd have to be arguing over labels for it to be the most typical PA discussion ever LOL.

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