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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 02:52
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Yep, I demand an apology from Jared because he read my post incorrectly. Big%20smile

I feel upset that I am accused of being wrong when I am in fact correct.

This happens to me all the time in pub quizzes, when I offer the correct answer and then somebody else puts a different answer down and when the answers are read out, I do not get an apology from the person who wrote their answer down instead of my correct one.

I am fed up of it, to be quite frank! Ermm

The same is also true when people believe I have used Google or Wikipedia to look up something I know the answer to already; as if they do not expect me to know something like that. Ermm

I maybe under 30 years of age but I do know some things. Ermm

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Don't worry James.  When you reach a more mature age you'll no longer worry about such things.  By the way you were only partially correct.  John Shuttleworth was another character alongside Jilted John, not the name of the guy behind him.  I know because I remember both.  That age thing again.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 03:09
   My old buddy Neil (who recognises that it's possible to be Pop AND have talent) although a late entry, is definitely looking like he can wee higher up the tree!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 03:45
The problem is, he doesn't look out for giant hogweed when he's doing so...

"WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..... OW!"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 04:02
Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I cannot stand Sophie Ellis-Bextor either. EmbarrassedConfused
 
I've met her twice and recorded her singing an accoustic set for our radio station.  She seemed a nice enough person to me and definitely had talent.
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I thought Sophie was great in theAudience, they were easily one of the best indie bands of 1999 - anyone who can release singles like "If You Can't Do It When You're Young, When Can You Do It" and "A Pessimist Is Never Disappointed" is okay in my book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 04:12
How is the old hogweed situation in Blighty?  Still inundated or have the herbicides caught up?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 04:52
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

How is the old hogweed situation in Blighty?  Still inundated or have the herbicides caught up?

I believe it is still a menace in certain parts of the country and warning signs have to be put up warning people of its presence. Unfortunately it doesn't look particularly threatening, so can catch the unwary. I saw some last year in Hannah Peschar's sculpture garden in Surrey - most unimpressive - looked like cow-parsley... but bigger.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 06:12
Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Yep, I demand an apology from Jared because he read my post incorrectly. Big%20smile

I feel upset that I am accused of being wrong when I am in fact correct.

This happens to me all the time in pub quizzes, when I offer the correct answer and then somebody else puts a different answer down and when the answers are read out, I do not get an apology from the person who wrote their answer down instead of my correct one.

I am fed up of it, to be quite frank! Ermm

The same is also true when people believe I have used Google or Wikipedia to look up something I know the answer to already; as if they do not expect me to know something like that. Ermm

I maybe under 30 years of age but I do know some things. Ermm

I am grieved. OuchWinkLOL
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Don't worry James.  When you reach a more mature age you'll no longer worry about such things.  By the way you were only partially correct.  John Shuttleworth was another character alongside Jilted John, not the name of the guy behind him.  I know because I remember both.  That age thing again.Wink


Oh I knew Jilted John wasn't John Shuttleworth, they're separate characters.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 07:55
Wherein lies the whole crux of the matter in The Shed.

Elsewhere on this esteemed site (ie outside The Shed), no doubt it does matter to all kinds of people exactly who did what on which instrument in whatever band, under whichsoever name they choose to use at the time; it's this absolute certainty over facts, figures, names and dates which fuel some of the most long running & occasionally pointless debates you could ever fall asleep reading . To those participating, this matters...

...in The Shed, however, these things matter not a jot - in here, the substance & feel of a memory is just as important if not more so as its factual accuracy; that's a benefit of our extreme age - you give somebody not so much a fact, as a cultural reference point; if you were there, you understand, maybe sigh a little, perhaps even shed a nostagic tear, sometimes even have a good laugh (if you're really lucky, until a little bit of wee comes out) - in this very small way, we're like slightly wrinkled tabloid newspapers - factual accuracy doesn't matter... at all! That's what Steve set the original Grey Room up for. We're here for a laugh, not to quibble over mere detail.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 08:32
So you're the forums equivalent of The Grauniad, then Jim?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 09:32
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

How is the old hogweed situation in Blighty?  Still inundated or have the herbicides caught up?

 
I saw a giant hogweed in the poisonous garden at Alnwick last week. It was in a cage and had just been severeley pruned. The guide was familiar with the Genesis song as well. 
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 10:56
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

How is the old hogweed situation in Blighty?  Still inundated or have the herbicides caught up?
I believe it is still a menace in certain parts of the country and warning signs have to be put up warning people of its presence. Unfortunately it doesn't look particularly threatening, so can catch the unwary. I saw some last year in Hannah Peschar's sculpture garden in Surrey - most unimpressive - looked like cow-parsley... but bigger.


Exactly - they look so innocuous, exactly like a smaller cow-parsley, so the young plants are easily overlooked until they are large enough to kill us with their hogweed hairs... when in doubt, kill everything green, just in case!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 15:39
Did anyone happen to see 'Carol Klein's Grow Your Own Veg' on BBC2 this evening?

Not only do the producers know their onions but they know their prog! The incidental music included Genesis,Renaissance,Curved Air and Willow's Song from The Wickerman soundtrack!

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 15:56
Sorry mate, no TV, and still in the office........... but nice to hear of some proggin'veg !
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:45
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/aug/28/nhs.health
 
as a follow up to my rant of a couple of weeks ago
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 03:29
I can't remember the names of the protagonists, Rach, but there was a NICE representative on BBC breakfast News yesterday, together with representative of some organisation (again, cannot remember names...) set up to support those in this exact situation.

Even though I was annoyed at the support group's spokesman for constantly talking over NICE's talking head & not allowing him to fully answer (this is something I absolutely hate in interview situations), it was clear from the very start that NICE were on extremely thin ice when it came to justifying themselves - unfortunately, this only served to fuel the other chap's indignation, and it was clear the interviewer suddenly got an urgent instruction to terminate the segment.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 04:59
I agree, I hate people talking over the top of others in interviews, however, (and please understand I didn't see it)  if I was on a limited time span due to some fella's accountancy I would probably talk over him too, unfortunately time is something that these people no longer have thanks to the money crunchers from NICE.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 07:00
The problem is that there is always going to be a finite budget and unless we want 80% income tax or similar the NHS cannot give every available treatment to every single person who may (or may not) benefit from it.  I don't necessarily agree with those people in NICE but I certainly wouldn't want their job; it's a no win situation for them whichever way they decide because someone will always be disappointed.Confused  Keep up the fight 'though because in a free country everyone is entitled to their beliefs.Thumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 07:26
Another thing which annoys me (I don't think I should take this to The Ranting Room yet) is if someone is in a position to pay for a particular drug & does so (thereby saving an already stretched NHS £1000sss), they then lose all entitlement to free treatment from the NHS for that illness.

I know the arguments about setting precedents, ending up with a two-tier health system etc, but it just seems so bloody unfair.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 08:47
Yeah I kind of agree with Neil too though, I certainly wouldn't want to work for NICE, tough job, it most be hard driving to work each day in a company car that is roughly equivilant in price to saving TWO or more LIVES!!!
 
How could you sleep at night knowing that if you sent our car back you could keep someone alive?
 
Sadly, my car isn't worth enough to save my mother's life. So we're just down to hopes and prayers.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 12:36
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Wherein lies the whole crux of the matter in The Shed.

Elsewhere on this esteemed site (ie outside The Shed), no doubt it does matter to all kinds of people exactly who did what on which instrument in whatever band, under whichsoever name they choose to use at the time; it's this absolute certainty over facts, figures, names and dates which fuel some of the most long running & occasionally pointless debates you could ever fall asleep reading . To those participating, this matters...

...in The Shed, however, these things matter not a jot - in here, the substance & feel of a memory is just as important if not more so as its factual accuracy; that's a benefit of our extreme age - you give somebody not so much a fact, as a cultural reference point; if you were there, you understand, maybe sigh a little, perhaps even shed a nostagic tear, sometimes even have a good laugh (if you're really lucky, until a little bit of wee comes out) - in this very small way, we're like slightly wrinkled tabloid newspapers - factual accuracy doesn't matter... at all! That's what Steve set the original Grey Room up for. We're here for a laugh, not to quibble over mere detail.
 
well said Jim - this peaceful haven for our damp trousered wrinkly tabloids is a place to chill and mistily mull over past epic times, even if the memory is a little blurred, it doesn't do to spoil lifelong cherished memories - if you want to argue go to Jim's ranting room, or if  you want to fight go to VR Wink
 
 
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