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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 02:52 | |
Don't worry James. When you reach a more mature age you'll no longer worry about such things. By the way you were only partially correct. John Shuttleworth was another character alongside Jilted John, not the name of the guy behind him. I know because I remember both. That age thing again.
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 03:09 | |
My old buddy Neil (who recognises that it's possible to be Pop AND have talent) although a late entry, is definitely looking like he can wee higher up the tree!
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 03:45 | |
The problem is, he doesn't look out for giant hogweed when he's doing so...
"WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..... OW!" |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 04:02 | |
Respect!
I thought Sophie was great in theAudience, they were easily one of the best indie bands of 1999 - anyone who can release singles like "If You Can't Do It When You're Young, When Can You Do It" and "A Pessimist Is Never Disappointed" is okay in my book.
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65416 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 04:12 | |
How is the old hogweed situation in Blighty? Still inundated or have the herbicides caught up?
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 04:52 | |
Edited by Dean - August 27 2008 at 04:53 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 06:12 | |
Oh I knew Jilted John wasn't John Shuttleworth, they're separate characters. |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 07:55 | |
Wherein lies the whole crux of the matter in The Shed.
Elsewhere on this esteemed site (ie outside The Shed), no doubt it does matter to all kinds of people exactly who did what on which instrument in whatever band, under whichsoever name they choose to use at the time; it's this absolute certainty over facts, figures, names and dates which fuel some of the most long running & occasionally pointless debates you could ever fall asleep reading . To those participating, this matters... ...in The Shed, however, these things matter not a jot - in here, the substance & feel of a memory is just as important if not more so as its factual accuracy; that's a benefit of our extreme age - you give somebody not so much a fact, as a cultural reference point; if you were there, you understand, maybe sigh a little, perhaps even shed a nostagic tear, sometimes even have a good laugh (if you're really lucky, until a little bit of wee comes out) - in this very small way, we're like slightly wrinkled tabloid newspapers - factual accuracy doesn't matter... at all! That's what Steve set the original Grey Room up for. We're here for a laugh, not to quibble over mere detail. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 08:32 | |
So you're the forums equivalent of The Grauniad, then Jim?
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 09:32 | |
I saw a giant hogweed in the poisonous garden at Alnwick last week. It was in a cage and had just been severeley pruned. The guide was familiar with the Genesis song as well.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 10:56 | |
Exactly - they look so innocuous, exactly like a smaller cow-parsley, so the young plants are easily overlooked until they are large enough to kill us with their hogweed hairs... when in doubt, kill everything green, just in case! |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Man Erg
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 15:39 | |
Did anyone happen to see 'Carol Klein's Grow Your Own Veg' on BBC2 this evening?
Not only do the producers know their onions but they know their prog! The incidental music included Genesis,Renaissance,Curved Air and Willow's Song from The Wickerman soundtrack! |
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: August 27 2008 at 15:56 | |
Sorry mate, no TV, and still in the office........... but nice to hear of some proggin'veg !
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:45 | |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/aug/28/nhs.health
as a follow up to my rant of a couple of weeks ago
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 03:29 | |
I can't remember the names of the protagonists, Rach, but there was a NICE representative on BBC breakfast News yesterday, together with representative of some organisation (again, cannot remember names...) set up to support those in this exact situation.
Even though I was annoyed at the support group's spokesman for constantly talking over NICE's talking head & not allowing him to fully answer (this is something I absolutely hate in interview situations), it was clear from the very start that NICE were on extremely thin ice when it came to justifying themselves - unfortunately, this only served to fuel the other chap's indignation, and it was clear the interviewer suddenly got an urgent instruction to terminate the segment. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 04:59 | |
I agree, I hate people talking over the top of others in interviews, however, (and please understand I didn't see it) if I was on a limited time span due to some fella's accountancy I would probably talk over him too, unfortunately time is something that these people no longer have thanks to the money crunchers from NICE.
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 07:00 | |
The problem is that there is always going to be a finite budget and unless we want 80% income tax or similar the NHS cannot give every available treatment to every single person who may (or may not) benefit from it. I don't necessarily agree with those people in NICE but I certainly wouldn't want their job; it's a no win situation for them whichever way they decide because someone will always be disappointed. Keep up the fight 'though because in a free country everyone is entitled to their beliefs.
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 07:26 | |
Another thing which annoys me (I don't think I should take this to The Ranting Room yet) is if someone is in a position to pay for a particular drug & does so (thereby saving an already stretched NHS £1000sss), they then lose all entitlement to free treatment from the NHS for that illness.
I know the arguments about setting precedents, ending up with a two-tier health system etc, but it just seems so bloody unfair. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 08:47 | |
Yeah I kind of agree with Neil too though, I certainly wouldn't want to work for NICE, tough job, it most be hard driving to work each day in a company car that is roughly equivilant in price to saving TWO or more LIVES!!!
How could you sleep at night knowing that if you sent our car back you could keep someone alive?
Sadly, my car isn't worth enough to save my mother's life. So we're just down to hopes and prayers.
Ok, not the time or place I know, I'll keep it out of the Shed!
ON the good news front, the "Nick Barrett signature Guitar Picks" have just arrived! woooohooooo!!!!
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mystic fred
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
Posted: August 28 2008 at 12:36 | |
well said Jim - this peaceful haven for our damp trousered wrinkly tabloids is a place to chill and mistily mull over past epic times, even if the memory is a little blurred, it doesn't do to spoil lifelong cherished memories - if you want to argue go to Jim's ranting room, or if you want to fight go to VR
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