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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

If you're enjoying National Health you will definitely like Kultivator.  Tongue

Well, so far I like it, although not as much as Hatfield and the North.  But I only have the first album of National Health so far. Smile  Early days...
 
Give them a bit of time. Which NH album are you listening to?
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Has anyone heard Zs' new EP? I'm interested and it's super cheap on eMusic.
 
What about Circulations by Pierre-yves Macé? I wasn't particularly impressed by his debut on Tzadik on my first listen, but I hear that one is better.
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I do not think there is any such thing as "Bad RIO/Avant prog"......

you may not like their style, but they are in no way BAD!


and what is with all the Thinking Plague dislike?  they are one of my faves!
They're too repetitive and I find the writing more than a bit dull. It's like they're trying to write pop/rock, but are making everything dissonant instead of consonant.

your ears are broken....Big%20smile
no u. So I take it by the silence that nobody's heard Zs or Mace?
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no u. So I take it by the silence that nobody's heard Zs or Mace?


No, but if Zs is only one download on emusic I'll try it.  Negligible risk.


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I don't have the new Zs but I am friends with them on MySpace, so I'll take a listen to some samples.

I have some of their older albums and they need more listens.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Has anyone heard Zs' new EP? I'm interested and it's super cheap on eMusic.
 
What about Circulations by Pierre-yves Macé? I wasn't particularly impressed by his debut on Tzadik on my first listen, but I hear that one is better.
Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

I do not think there is any such thing as "Bad RIO/Avant prog"......

you may not like their style, but they are in no way BAD!


and what is with all the Thinking Plague dislike?  they are one of my faves!
They're too repetitive and I find the writing more than a bit dull. It's like they're trying to write pop/rock, but are making everything dissonant instead of consonant.

your ears are broken....Big%20smile
no u. So I take it by the silence that nobody's heard Zs or Mace?


I like Zs, but they too get repetitious..... Confused

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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

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no u. So I take it by the silence that nobody's heard Zs or Mace?


No, but if Zs is only one download on emusic I'll try it.  Negligible risk.
15 minutes of music is always a nice deal, even if it's not good.
 
I like the idea of Zs (well at least at the beginning, maybe they've gotten much more minimalist), but I've never been moved by what I've heard of them. Maybe I don't get "post-minimalism", whatever that means.
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I thought I'd found a candidate for bad RIO and then I realised I liked what I was listening too!

Les Tueurs de la Lune de la Miel - Spécial Manubre!

They are what became The Honeymoon Killers.

However, if you've ever heard The Honeymoon Killers' Les Tueurs de la Lune de la Miel, you'll realise they sound quite different!

In fact, I'd say the album Spécial Manubre! is the sort of album I'd play people to give them an idea what avant-prog is.

It would also scare them completely away.

Now I thought Etron Four Leloublan's debut was weird... this is weirder!  I also though Ferdinand's En Avant was weird... this is weirder again!

This is a must hear album.  It's not for the faint of heart though... it's brash, humorous and often very enjoyable as well.


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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Give them a bit of time. Which NH album are you listening to?

(General Off-Topyckness Apology Applies!!)

Listening to their self-titled one.  Don't worry, I'm very patient with music. Smile

I really love the airy, effortless vocals, but when it goes a bit 'noodly' I tend to lose interest. Embarrassed  However, with that sort of thing I have found in the past that it is a bit like looking at a pointillist painting.  At first it's all dots.  But after a while, you pick out shapes, etc.  Just... in sound, not pictures... er... excuse pseudishness, I haven't had a cup of tea yet...

...er...

Present Are Fantastic. Big%20smile  (There, back on topic! LOL)
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Just ordered from Wayside:

Zaar s/t
Volapuk - Polyglot
Volapuk - Where is Tamashii?
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Give them a bit of time. Which NH album are you listening to?

(General Off-Topyckness Apology Applies!!)

Listening to their self-titled one.  Don't worry, I'm very patient with music. Smile

I really love the airy, effortless vocals, but when it goes a bit 'noodly' I tend to lose interest. Embarrassed  However, with that sort of thing I have found in the past that it is a bit like looking at a pointillist painting.  At first it's all dots.  But after a while, you pick out shapes, etc.  Just... in sound, not pictures... er... excuse pseudishness, I haven't had a cup of tea yet...

...er...

Present Are Fantastic. Big%20smile  (There, back on topic! LOL)
 
I wouldn't say that discussing National Health is particularly off topic - In the UK there was always a fair bit of overlap between RIO and Canterbury, and their second album has John Greaves on bass.
 
As for the fantastic splendour of Present - Delusions (from A Great Inhumane Adventure) is playing as I type this and it's Censoreding magnificent!
 
(I must stop watching those Gordon Ramsay TV programmes Embarrassed).
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I wouldn't say that discussing National Health is particularly off topic


Don't tempt me.  Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

As for the fantastic splendour of Present - Delusions (from A Great Inhumane Adventure) is playing as I type this and it's Censoreding magnificent!
 
(I must stop watching those Gordon Ramsay TV programmes Embarrassed).

Oh my, I must hear that.  The album version of that song is a current obsession of mine... Embarrassed
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Just ordered from Wayside:

Zaar s/t
Volapuk - Polyglot
Volapuk - Where is Tamashii?
 
All splendid albums. If you like Volapuk then you should try to find Guigou Chenevier's Rumeurs de la Ville, which was recorded by an expanded version of Volapuk with contributions from amateur musicians.
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Just ordered from Wayside:

Zaar s/t
Volapuk - Polyglot
Volapuk - Where is Tamashii?
 
All splendid albums. If you like Volapuk then you should try to find Guigou Chenevier's Rumeurs de la Ville, which was recorded by an expanded version of Volapuk with contributions from amateur musicians.


I'll keep this in mind, thanks for the rec.
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

As for the fantastic splendour of Present - Delusions (from A Great Inhumane Adventure) is playing as I type this and it's Censoreding magnificent!
 
(I must stop watching those Gordon Ramsay TV programmes Embarrassed).

Oh my, I must hear that.  The album version of that song is a current obsession of mine... Embarrassed


Yes, Certitudes is probably the next thing I get from Present.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:



no u. So I take it by the silence that nobody's heard Zs or Mace?


No, but if Zs is only one download on emusic I'll try it.  Negligible risk.
15 minutes of music is always a nice deal, even if it's not good.
 
I like the idea of Zs (well at least at the beginning, maybe they've gotten much more minimalist), but I've never been moved by what I've heard of them. Maybe I don't get "post-minimalism", whatever that means.
 
I feel pretty much the same about Zs. I'll get the new ep from emusic next month, but what I've heard so far (Arms plus a few online samples) has left me cold.
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Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I can't recommend this enough.  Don't let the Canterbury tag fool you, I consider this a "RIO" album.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Yes, Certitudes is probably the next thing I get from Present.

I've been listening to that album a lot...
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Just ordered from Wayside:

Zaar s/t
Volapuk - Polyglot
Volapuk - Where is Tamashii?
 
All splendid albums. If you like Volapuk then you should try to find Guigou Chenevier's Rumeurs de la Ville, which was recorded by an expanded version of Volapuk with contributions from amateur musicians.


I'll keep this in mind, thanks for the rec.


Guigou Chenevier also released A la bri des Micro-climats (with Sophie Jausseraud), which I've got to listen to at some point.

Is this one any good, Chris?
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Just ordered from Wayside:

Zaar s/t
Volapuk - Polyglot
Volapuk - Where is Tamashii?
 
All splendid albums. If you like Volapuk then you should try to find Guigou Chenevier's Rumeurs de la Ville, which was recorded by an expanded version of Volapuk with contributions from amateur musicians.


I'll keep this in mind, thanks for the rec.


Guigou Chenevier also released A la bri des Micro-climats (with Sophie Jausseraud), which I've got to listen to at some point.

Is this one any good, Chris?
 
It's definitely worth a listen. It's not that different from the last couple of Etron Fou albums, which is fine as far as I'm concerned.
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