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Revan 
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 Topic: Prog and Socialism
Posted: March 20 2006 at 11:53 |
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I was reading "Peoples ignorance towards prog" when i realised: "Hey! I don't know a single progger who isn't socialist" And i have to say almost all my friends are proggers. I think this is not a coincidence, look to the Floyds.
What's your opinion?
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Padraic
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:06 |
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I am not a socialist.
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Revan
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:10 |
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God bless!
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Heptade
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:27 |
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I think that people of all persuasions are into prog, for their own distinct
reasons, which often have nothing to do with their personal politics.
I personally am a pseudo-socialist, I guess. I don't much like ideological
labels, but I believe in compassion.
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The world keeps spinning, people keep sinning
And all the rest is just bullsh*t
-Steve Kilbey
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Trotsky
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:33 |
Hello Revan ...
There is a thread called the Political Compass Test ... look for it
under the search option ... in that you will see that while a majority
of people on this site are either leftist or at least liberal, there
are some staunch conservatives on board too.
Try and guess which side I am on! 
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:52 |
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I am a Liberal Democrat (UK) and extremely proud of it.
I love baiting the brainless (often but by no means exclusively American) neo-cons! Their motto seems to be "never think something through when you can form a totally bigoted view without".
But I don't see what politics has to do with prog. (Mind you, Phil Collins went up in my estimation when he announced he wasn't and never had been a Conservative).
Edited by Tony Fisher
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:53 |
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I thought anti-proggists the Clash were socialist..................
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rushaholic
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:07 |
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Conservative and extremely proud of it. Where did you get the idea that we are all socialist?
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Revan
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:24 |
 Dick Heath wrote:
I thought anti-proggists the Clash were socialist.................. |
The clash aren't anti-proggists, i don't think punk ever had the intention to kill prog, it just happened.
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opera_guy
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:37 |
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Just because all your friends are socialist doesn't mean all people who like progressive music are socialist. I'm as far from socialist as they come. And I have quite a few friends/family that like progressive music that are not socialist. It's not a matter of opinion. This thread is pointless.
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Revan
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:56 |
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Revan
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:57 |
opera_guy wrote:
Just because all your friends are socialist doesn't mean all people who like progressive music are socialist. I'm as far from socialist as they come. And I have quite a few friends/family that like progressive music that are not socialist. It's not a matter of opinion. This thread is pointless. |
Read what i said again
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Rockin' Chair
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:15 |
I vote for the left-side.
But I think that music must stay apart from the politic. A progger can be right-oriented or left-oriented. Prog is no politic, prog is the pure music.
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:16 |
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I'm not a socialist or a conservative. I dont support failed political systems. Waste of my time.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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leirbagaze
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:38 |
I see a lot of confusion between the terms socialism, left, conservative, etc, etc.
People who listen to non commercial music , including all genres tend to be open minded and some kind of rebel.
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Herman H.
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:09 |
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I stand miles above all regular political views. I agree with some
early postings that to admire prog music one shouldn't be narrow minded.
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Raff
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:16 |
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I think politics and music should not mix - the same as literature and politics. I've always had my own political views, but I think this is not the place to air them.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:19 |
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I guess socialist is the best term to describe my political views, not that I care.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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disastercasper
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:48 |
I happen to be sort of a socialist, but this has nothing to do with prog. As already said many times in here, music and political opinion don't have anything to do with each other, except in some sick fascistic musical environments.
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Trotsky
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 02:03 |
I also happen to think that it's close-minded to say that religion/politics shouldn't be mixed with music/literature ... although ....
IMO it's very rare that they combine successfully ... but I think it's up to the artist not the fan to decide what message they (the artist) can convey
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"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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