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Topic: '66 Obscure Proto-Prog (must listen)Posted By: Friday13th
Subject: '66 Obscure Proto-Prog (must listen)
Date Posted: September 11 2014 at 18:12
I rarely get this excited about a music find, but wait till you hear this! I stumbled upon this band when researching about early mellotron use, and this song popped up: http://youtu.be/gwCMzYmtC-s
Manfred Mann's Earth Band is on progarchives, but not his older '60s stuff. As great as that song is, this second song I found, "You're My Girl", is truly MINDBLOWING. Red by King Crimson, anyone? Check it out: http://youtu.be/UMT-2u8rNDo
Replies: Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 12 2014 at 09:19
Listened to that track.....doesn't really 'sound like' Red to me though there are similar chord structures in it.
Not sure if I would even call it proto prog......decent early track nevertheless.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 12 2014 at 12:41
Just so you don't have to copy and paste the URL.
Well, there are similarities and it's quite unusual for it's time.
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: September 12 2014 at 12:57
Nice
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Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: September 12 2014 at 13:40
@chopper Thanks! When I tried to preview the link it didn't show, so I figured the URL would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
@dr wu23 Really? I know it's just the dissonant chords that are probably in the whole-tone scale like Red, but the strange melody, the creepy chimes...it's at least up there with anything on Revolver.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 13 2014 at 03:30
It is in someways unfortunate that the structure of the PA does not permit the "history" of a band to be documented as well as it should. 'As Is' was/is a great Psychedelic album from what is essentially Manfred Mann's Chapter Two, (not really obscure, just a little forgotten), but whether it constitutes Proto-Prog is a matter of debate since Chapter Three, (which was most certainly was Progressive Jazz-Rock), was conceived as a reaction to the two earlier hit-oriented Manfred Mann bands. However, some of the more experimental/psychedelic tracks from 'As Is' (and possibly from the soundtrack to 'Up The Junction') can be seen as Proto-Chapter Three even if the more (proto) art-rock direction of 'Mighty Garvey' moved away from those earlier pscyh/jazz-rock beginnings, but I'm not so sure that makes it Proto-Prog as such.
Chapter Two:
Chapter Three:
Personally, I think Chapter Three is woefully overlooked, overshadowed as it is by the more successful Earth Band.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 13 2014 at 09:30
Sounds Proto to me but that will not help.
"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: September 13 2014 at 14:19
@Dean Cool, I'm still trying out their different periods, but I'll have to try that next.
@SteveG haha well this is progarchives where every sub-subgenre needs to be meticulously categorized. Proto-prog, experimental/psych rock, prog related...whatever, the end result is the same--interesting music that prog fans should like. So The Beach Boys are too pop to be proto. They still rule!
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 13 2014 at 14:55
Friday13th wrote:
@Dean Cool, I'm still trying out their different periods, but I'll have to try that next.
@SteveG haha well this is progarchives where every sub-subgenre needs to be meticulously categorized. Proto-prog, experimental/psych rock, prog related...whatever, the end result is the same--interesting music that prog fans should like. So The Beach Boys are too pop to be proto. They still rule!
Welcome aboard F13. Just for the record, I'm no fan of subgenres like my colleagues are but it's all we got, man. Prog On.
"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 13 2014 at 22:59
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 13 2014 at 23:00
dr wu23 wrote:
[QUOTE=SteveG]Sounds Proto to me but that will not help.
Yes....but then everything sounds like proto prog to you.
btw..love your white fedora
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 14 2014 at 12:56
Friday13th wrote:
@chopper Thanks! When I tried to preview the link it didn't show, so I figured the URL would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
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It's not that hard, you just click on "insert movie" and copy in the video reference (not the whole YouTube URL). Sometimes you get an error first time saying it can't insert so just do it again and it works.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 14 2014 at 12:59
dr wu23 wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
[QUOTE=SteveG]Sounds Proto to me but that will not help.
Yes....but then everything sounds like proto prog to you.
Uh-Oh, perhaps this is a good time "to take a breather" then.
"Doing the right thing is never superfluous."
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 14 2014 at 13:23
chopper wrote:
Friday13th wrote:
@chopper Thanks! When I tried to preview the link it didn't show, so I figured the URL would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
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It's not that hard, you just click on "insert movie" and copy in the video reference (not the whole YouTube URL). Sometimes you get an error first time saying it can't insert so just do it again and it works.
Also, he ought to erase that * s * in * https *.
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: September 15 2014 at 15:11
Oh so it's just that last part of tech gibberish. I get it haha