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Topic: Prog Sub-Genres You Just Don't Get
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Prog Sub-Genres You Just Don't Get
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:02
Has anyone looked into some of the prog sub-genres on PA and you just can't get into them at all? Just looking to see if you have any. For me, there's quite a few really (although with some exceptions):

Experimental/Post Metal (except Tool - Lateralus)
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock (except Mixtus Orbis)
Jazz Rock/Fusion (except "Kind Of Blue" and Colosseum)
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (except "Still Life" and some Mastodon)

The main one for me though is Zeuhl. It's best albums I find OK, but nothing at all stands out Unhappy

Anyway, thanks for any feedback Big smile



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:37
^ Kind of Blue, of course, isn't JRF -- it's modal jazz.

I haven't appreciated Neo-Prog or most of the music in the Metal categories (especially the Prog Metal category). There's lots of music I love in all the other categories.


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:48
How much Exp/Post Metal, Indo-Prog, Fusion and Tech/Extreme Prog metal have you listened to? 

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:53
Neo

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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:14
I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:22
Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.

It doesn't sound strange. I wish I could say the same thing!Wink

I have tried for many years now to appreciate and enjoy the old Canterbury Scene. I don't think I ever will. Ditto Zeuhl and Krautrock.

I still love the old classic rock and heavy metal bands of my youth, but I cannot for the life of me appreciate the tech ANC extreme metal bands I hear nowadays. Must be getting old!LOL


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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:23
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

How much Exp/Post Metal, Indo-Prog, Fusion and Tech/Extreme Prog metal have you listened to? 

Basically about 15 in each I'd say. Not quite as much in Indo-Prog because I can't ever find full albums on YouTube, but a more in Experimental/Post Metal (pretty much all Tool, Maudlin Of The Well, Devin Townsend, etc.) and I'm always having to play the sort of Jazz/Fusion stuff in school. As with Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, I have to be in a very open-minded mood. First time I put on "Crimson" by the Edge Of Sanity (I think the first one I listened to with death growls and all that), I'd just finished listening to Ommadawn or Hergest Ridge, or something, and I found it unbearable. Took me about a month to return to it, but I still struggle to listen to a lot of them all the way through without finding an excuse not to Smile


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:28
Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.


+1


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:54
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

...and I'm always having to play the sort of Jazz/Fusion stuff in school.

I highly doubt you had to play anything that sounded like Brand X or Mahavishnu Orchestra in school.Wink
 




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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:01
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Neo


And most avant/ rio etc

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:04
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Experimental/Post Metal (except Tool - Lateralus)
It's quite a different subgenre, what bands have you tried?


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:14
Post-Rock. WTF is this ??? When I read a review of an album I own an the writer states that there's a 'bit of a Post-Rock flavour in the guitars' I just don't get it !?!


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:28
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:


Has anyone looked into some of the prog sub-genres on PA and you just can't get into them at all?

Not really.

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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 18:13
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:


Has anyone looked into some of the prog sub-genres on PA and you just can't get into them at all?

Not really.


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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 19:48
I have my favorites and less favorites, but I like all of the subs, except know little of Indo/Raga.  I'm honestly always surprised at the dislike some here have for some of the subs.  Ah well!

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 19:56
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.

It doesn't sound strange. I wish I could say the same thing!Wink

I have tried for many years now to appreciate and enjoy the old Canterbury Scene. I don't think I ever will. Ditto Zeuhl and Krautrock.

I still love the old classic rock and heavy metal bands of my youth, but I cannot for the life of me appreciate the tech ANC extreme metal bands I hear nowadays. Must be getting old!LOL

Cheers from another old fart across the pond. I agree with your musty assessment.


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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 21:25
Neo, Prog Metal, and Symph are my least favorite, but Prog Metal is the only one which, upon looking at the top albums list, I cringe without any consolation. It is not distaste for metal. I really dig some Exp/Post and Extreme/Tech and even Heavy Prog, but I am deterred by Prog Metal for some reason. I don't really like anything I've heard from DT or Riverside or Ayreon. 


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 21:48
It's not that I don't "get" it, but neo prog all sounds like the exact same inane sh*t to me and I don't see why people are so into it.  Also most prog metal is awful.


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 23:57
I hate music

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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 06 2014 at 05:44
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

...and I'm always having to play the sort of Jazz/Fusion stuff in school.

I highly doubt you had to play anything that sounded like Brand X or Mahavishnu Orchestra in school.Wink
 



Maybe not as far as Brand X, but you'd be surprised Smile We've done a bit of Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff in a school band, and even though their great musicians, I just couldn't listen to them in my own time... Quite fun to play though! Tongue I get what you mean though, but I am familiar with the more technical fusion stuff through uncles and that, but no Unhappy


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 06 2014 at 13:14
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

I hate music


same tbh


Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: April 06 2014 at 13:40
can't handle full blown canterbury



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