Prog Sub-Genres You Just Don't Get
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Topic: Prog Sub-Genres You Just Don't Get
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Prog Sub-Genres You Just Don't Get
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:02
Has anyone looked into some of the prog sub-genres on PA and you just can't get into them at all? Just looking to see if you have any. For me, there's quite a few really (although with some exceptions):
Experimental/Post Metal (except Tool - Lateralus) Indo-Prog/Raga Rock (except Mixtus Orbis) Jazz Rock/Fusion (except "Kind Of Blue" and Colosseum) Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (except "Still Life" and some Mastodon)
The main one for me though is Zeuhl. It's best albums I find OK, but nothing at all stands out 
Anyway, thanks for any feedback 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:37
^ Kind of Blue, of course, isn't JRF -- it's modal jazz.
I haven't appreciated Neo-Prog or most of the music in the Metal categories (especially the Prog Metal category). There's lots of music I love in all the other categories.
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:48
How much Exp/Post Metal, Indo-Prog, Fusion and Tech/Extreme Prog metal have you listened to?
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 14:53
Neo
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:14
I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:22
Prog Sothoth wrote:
I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.
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It doesn't sound strange. I wish I could say the same thing! 
I have tried for many years now to appreciate and enjoy the old Canterbury Scene. I don't think I ever will. Ditto Zeuhl and Krautrock.
I still love the old classic rock and heavy metal bands of my youth, but I cannot for the life of me appreciate the tech ANC extreme metal bands I hear nowadays. Must be getting old! 
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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:23
zravkapt wrote:
How much Exp/Post Metal, Indo-Prog, Fusion and Tech/Extreme Prog metal have you listened to? |
Basically about 15 in each I'd say. Not quite as much in Indo-Prog because I can't ever find full albums on YouTube, but a more in Experimental/Post Metal (pretty much all Tool, Maudlin Of The Well, Devin Townsend, etc.) and I'm always having to play the sort of Jazz/Fusion stuff in school. As with Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, I have to be in a very open-minded mood. First time I put on "Crimson" by the Edge Of Sanity (I think the first one I listened to with death growls and all that), I'd just finished listening to Ommadawn or Hergest Ridge, or something, and I found it unbearable. Took me about a month to return to it, but I still struggle to listen to a lot of them all the way through without finding an excuse not to 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:28
Prog Sothoth wrote:
I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.
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+1
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 15:54
Xonty wrote:
...and I'm always having to play the sort of Jazz/Fusion stuff in school. |
I highly doubt you had to play anything that sounded like Brand X or Mahavishnu Orchestra in school.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:01
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Neo |
And most avant/ rio etc
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:04
Xonty wrote:
Experimental/Post Metal (except Tool - Lateralus) |
It's quite a different subgenre, what bands have you tried?
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:14
Post-Rock. WTF is this ??? When I read a review of an album I own an the writer states that there's a 'bit of a Post-Rock flavour in the guitars' I just don't get it !?!
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 17:28
Xonty wrote:
Has anyone looked into some of the prog sub-genres on PA and you just can't get into them at all?
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Not really.
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 18:13
Barbu wrote:
Xonty wrote:
Has anyone looked into some of the prog sub-genres on PA and you just can't get into them at all?
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Not really. |
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 19:48
I have my favorites and less favorites, but I like all of the subs, except know little of Indo/Raga. I'm honestly always surprised at the dislike some here have for some of the subs. Ah well!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 19:56
lazland wrote:
Prog Sothoth wrote:
I don't know if this is going to sound strange, but there's stuff from every genre here I can get into.
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It doesn't sound strange. I wish I could say the same thing! 
I have tried for many years now to appreciate and enjoy the old Canterbury Scene. I don't think I ever will. Ditto Zeuhl and Krautrock.
I still love the old classic rock and heavy metal bands of my youth, but I cannot for the life of me appreciate the tech ANC extreme metal bands I hear nowadays. Must be getting old!  |
Cheers from another old fart across the pond. I agree with your musty assessment.
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 21:25
Neo, Prog Metal, and Symph are my least favorite, but Prog Metal is the only one which, upon looking at the top albums list, I cringe without any consolation. It is not distaste for metal. I really dig some Exp/Post and Extreme/Tech and even Heavy Prog, but I am deterred by Prog Metal for some reason. I don't really like anything I've heard from DT or Riverside or Ayreon.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 21:48
It's not that I don't "get" it, but neo prog all sounds like the exact same inane sh*t to me and I don't see why people are so into it. Also most prog metal is awful.
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 23:57
I hate music
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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 06 2014 at 05:44
zravkapt wrote:
Xonty wrote:
...and I'm always having to play the sort of Jazz/Fusion stuff in school. |
I highly doubt you had to play anything that sounded like Brand X or Mahavishnu Orchestra in school.
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Maybe not as far as Brand X, but you'd be surprised  We've done a bit of Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff in a school band, and even though their great musicians, I just couldn't listen to them in my own time... Quite fun to play though!  I get what you mean though, but I am familiar with the more technical fusion stuff through uncles and that, but no 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 06 2014 at 13:14
frippism wrote:
I hate music |
same tbh
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Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: April 06 2014 at 13:40
can't handle full blown canterbury
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