King Crimson Albums - Best To Worst
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Topic: King Crimson Albums - Best To Worst
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: King Crimson Albums - Best To Worst
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 17:45
Again another poll to see your favourite to least favourite albums of King Crimson this time. Even if you haven't heard all of them, just say the ones you have. Looking forward to what you guys think, here are mine (pretty typical to be honest ):
1. In The Court Of The Crimson King (10/10) 2. Lizard (9/10) 3. Red (9/10) 4. In The Wake Of Poseidon (9/10) 5. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (8/10) 6. Islands (8/10) 7. Discipline (8/10) 8. Starless And Bible Black (7/10) 9. The Power To Believe (7/10) 10. Beat (7/10) 11. Three Of A Perfect Pair (7/10) 12. THRAK (6/10) 13. The ConstruKction Of Light (5/10)
Not very familiar with the projeKcts so I've excluded them from my list. Thanks for any feedback
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 18:02
Here's mine. Always been a big fan of Larks' Tongues.
1) Larks' Tongues in Aspic 2) Red 3) Discipline 4) A Scarcity of Miracles 5) Islands 6) Lizard 7) Starless and Bible Black 8) In the Court of the Crimson King 9) Three of a Perfect Pair 10) THRAK 11) Beat 12) In the Wake of Poseidon 13) The Power to Believe 14) The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 19:41
I'll ignore the live albums and the Projekcts for simplicity though Great Deceiver boxset is my favorite
1) Larks' Tongues in Aspic 2) Red 3) In the Court of the Crimson King 4) Lizard 5) Discipline 6) Starless and Bible Black 7) The Power to Believe 8) Islands 9) In the Wake of Poseidon 10) Beat 11) THRAK 12) Three of a Perfect Pair 13) The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 20:00
Red
Starless And Bible Black
Larks Tongues In Aspic
In The Court Of The Crimson King
Lizard
Wake Of Poseidon
Islands
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 20:06
Five stars: Lizard > In the Court of the Crimson King > Discipline > Red > Vrooom > In the Wake of Poseidon
Four and a half stars: Starless and Bible Black > Three of a Perfect Pair > Beat > Islands
Four stars: Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Thrak
Three and a half stars: The Power to Believe > The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 20:19
I'm just going to do their classic period..
Islands Larks Lizard Red Starless Court Wake
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 22:05
LTIA Red Lizard SABB Discipline ITCHCOCK TOAPP Thrak ITWOP Beat The Power To Believe Islands The ConstruKtion Of Light
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 22:09
Discipline
LTIA
Lizard
The Power To Believe
Red
In The Court...
Three Of A Perfect Pair
In The Wake...
SABB
The ConstruKction...
Islands
Thrak
Beat
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 22:12
Best:
LTIA
Worst:
Thrak
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 01:27
Sticking strictly with the ones I own: Red
LTIA SABB Lizard TPtB Court Poseidon
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 18:53
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Sticking strictly with the ones I own: Red
LTIA SABB Lizard TPtB Court Poseidon |
Thank God someone else puts Court at the (near) bottom. The issue now is, how low is your bottom? Rating wise.
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 20:29
LTIA tied with Red In the Court of the Crimson King Beat In the Wake of Poseidon (too bad it's a straight copy of ITCHYCOCK) Discipline Lizard Islands Three of a Perfect Pair Starless and Bible Black The Power to Believe the other albums
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 01:22
Larks Tongues in Aspic Starless and Bible Black Red Thrak Lizard The Construktion of Light Three of a Perfect Pair In the Court of the Crimson King The Power to Believe Discipline Beat Islands In the Wake of Poseidon
I've left out live albums as there's just so many that it rather clouds the issue of best new material etc
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 02:06
Five stars:
Red
ITCOTCK
Four stars:
ITWOP
Lizard
Islands
LTIA
Thrak
The power to believe
Three stars:
Starless & Bible black
Construktion of light
Beat
Three of a perfect pair
Discipline
A consistently very good band. I think their output in the 90's and beyond was better than anything any other classic era prog band released at that time.
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Posted By: Vincent Carr's SUMIC
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 04:41
A tough one! - 69-74 group albums -
Red
Islands
Starless and Bible Black
Lizard
In The Court
In The Wake
Larks Tongues
I DON'T really want LTIA at the bottom! - yet there it is!
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Posted By: stegokitty
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 20:48
Based upon the eight KC albums I own:
Lizard Larks Tongues In Aspic Red Starless And Bible Black Islands In The Court Of The Crimson King In The Wake Of Poseidon The Power To Believe
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 21:34
These are my personal rankings based on my liking, not an objective best or worst....
ITCOTCK
Red
Poseidon
Larks Tongues
Starless and Bible Black
Lizard
Islands
Discipline
etc....
The rest for me are about the same level of quality .
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 22:18
Horizons wrote:
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Sticking strictly with the ones I own: Red
LTIA SABB Lizard TPtB Court Poseidon |
Thank God someone else puts Court at the (near) bottom. The issue now is, how low is your bottom? Rating wise. |
Oops, missed this from a while ago! Poseidon gets rounded up to a 3 from slightly below, Power and Court get a 4, Lizard and SABB are each a 4.5 rounded up, LTIA a solid 5, and Red is the best ever album ever ever ...ever.
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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 03:58
Larks Court Discipline Red Islands Lizard Starless Wake
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 04:11
The albums I have heard in their entirety at least once:
1. Islands
2. In the Wake of Poseidon
3. Red
4. In the Court of the Crimson King
5. Lizard
6. Larks'Tongues in Aspic
7. Discipline
8. Starless and Bible Black
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Posted By: idoownu
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 06:47
Larks Tongues in Aspic Lizard ITCOCK Islands Red Thrak Starless and Bible Black Discipline ITWOPP The Power To Believe
These are the ones I have. The order of the first 2 for best changes day to day. the order of the 2nd two changes day to day. All the other albums are great except last two are mediocre. Okay. Thanks. No big.
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Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 07:34
I don't know, do Rush albums or Jethro Tull albums or ELP albums or VDGG albums
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 08:19
In my collection so far:
Red (5/5) Larks' Tongues In Aspic (5/5) Absent Lovers (5/5) In The Court Of The Crimson King (Strong 4/5, weak 5/5) Islands (4/5) Lizard (4/5) In The Wake Of Poseidon (4/5) Starless And Bible Black (Very strong 3/5, somewhat weak 4/5)
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 09:22
Let's see:
1. In the Court
2. Red
3. Lark's Tongues
4. Lizard
5. Thrak
6. Discipline
7. In the Wake
8. Islands
9. Three of a Perfect Pair
10.Starless
11.Power to Believe
12.Beat
13.Construction of Light
14.Scarcity of Melodies
Only 14 do I truly not like. All of the first 10 I love and 11-13 all have their moments as well. That last one (I know it wasn't officially called a Crimson album, but that's what it was) was a real stinker.
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 12:47
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
In my collection so far:
Red (5/5) Larks' Tongues In Aspic (5/5) Absent Lovers (5/5) In The Court Of The Crimson King (Strong 4/5, weak 5/5) Islands (4/5) Lizard (4/5) In The Wake Of Poseidon (4/5) Starless And Bible Black (Very strong 3/5, somewhat weak 4/5)
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what did that rating mean exactly??
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 13:16
Michael678 wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
In my collection so far:
Red (5/5) Larks' Tongues In Aspic (5/5) Absent Lovers (5/5) In The Court Of The Crimson King (Strong 4/5, weak 5/5) Islands (4/5) Lizard (4/5) In The Wake Of Poseidon (4/5) Starless And Bible Black (Very strong 3/5, somewhat weak 4/5)
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what did that rating mean exactly?? |
Which one? The Starless And Bible Black one of the ratings as a whole?
For the former, I wasn't too fond of the improvs (outside of "Trio"). For the latter, the ratings were based on the album rating system this site uses.
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 13:52
Only going through 80's because I don't own any of the new albums
1) Larks' Tongues in Aspic 2) Discipline 3) Starless and Bible Black 4) Red 5) In the Court 6) Islands 7) In The Wake of Poseidon 8) Beat 9) Lizard 10) Three of a Perfect Pair
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 15:41
Simple: Best: The Power to Believe. Worst: Construkction of Light I really don't bother with the older albums much anymore. People move on.
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 16:23
OK: Islands, Lizard, Discipline
Bad: Everything before Lizard and after Discipline
(at least they haven't made as many gawdawful albums as the buggled-up Yes have)
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 17:36
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
In my collection so far:
Red (5/5) Larks' Tongues In Aspic (5/5) Absent Lovers (5/5) In The Court Of The Crimson King (Strong 4/5, weak 5/5) Islands (4/5) Lizard (4/5) In The Wake Of Poseidon (4/5) Starless And Bible Black (Very strong 3/5, somewhat weak 4/5)
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what did that rating mean exactly?? |
Which one? The Starless And Bible Black one of the ratings as a whole?
For the former, I wasn't too fond of the improvs (outside of "Trio"). For the latter, the ratings were based on the album rating system this site uses.
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yeah, that and In the Court; so the first rating was based on personal reference and the other based on its prog credentials or something??
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 20:09
1. Red
2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
3. Starless and Bible Black
As for the rest, pick it.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: July 21 2014 at 09:01
1. Red 2. Larks’
And then it gets more complicated. The bronze
medal could go to Court, Lizard or Discipline. Islands and SaBB come
close – they are both solid 4 stars albums in my book. Wake isn’t bad
but the trouble is that … well, you know. They sound like their own
epigones.
Beat and Three didn’t catch my attention in the same
way Discipline did. When Discipline was released, we were all amazed.
This was truly progressive rock for the new decade. And though their
next albums weren’t bad, they didn’t really bring anything new. At least
that’s what I felt at the time, and then I started studying classical
music, so I sort of lost track of what Fripp and the gang did later.
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I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: July 21 2014 at 09:21
Btw, I can’t remember that we used the word "progressive" in 1981. Instead we used words like innovative and really good.
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Posted By: mike1259
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 11:40
1. Wowsa, I'm shocked no one else has listed SABB at #1! Am I one of the few fans who would put side one as one of the greatest album sides of all time? The sonic attack of "The Great Pretender", winding back down with "Lament", & possibly the greatest guitar piece of all time on "The Night Watch". This was the album you broke out to impress friends with your system. Granted, difficult listening, accessable as a diamond but just as valuable!
2. Lizard was possibly their most accessable record and completely unique with the manic/panic/schitzoid vocals and clever song writing. Again, side one.
3. ITCOTCC would just barely edge
4. Larks Tongues in Aspic, gotta love that "outer limits" atmosphere the thing generates.
5. Red
I also have auditioned most everything else and have clean copies of Discipline, Beat and TOAPP yet rarely find myself wanting to play 'em. Fripp was a rare genius!
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 12:18
1. Larks 2. Red 3. Court 4. Disci 5. Starl 6. Wake 7. Lizz 8. Isles
haven't heard any newer stuff yet
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 12:31
Michael678 wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
In my collection so far:
Red (5/5) Larks' Tongues In Aspic (5/5) Absent Lovers (5/5) In The Court Of The Crimson King (Strong 4/5, weak 5/5) Islands (4/5) Lizard (4/5) In The Wake Of Poseidon (4/5) Starless And Bible Black (Very strong 3/5, somewhat weak 4/5)
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what did that rating mean exactly?? |
Which one? The Starless And Bible Black one of the ratings as a whole?
For the former, I wasn't too fond of the improvs (outside of "Trio"). For the latter, the ratings were based on the album rating system this site uses.
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yeah, that and In the Court; so the first rating was based on personal reference and the other based on its prog credentials or something?? |
Pretty much, yeah.
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 05:33
1. Red
2. In The Court Of The Crimson King
3. Larks Tounges in Aspic
4. Lizard
5. Thrak
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 16:17
1. Red 2. Lizard 3. Larks' Tongues In Aspic 4. Starless And Bible Black 5. In The Court Of The Crimson King 6. Islands 7. THRAK 8. Discipline 9. In The Wake Of Poseidon 10. Three Of A Perfect Pair 11. Beat 12. The Power To Believe 13. The ConstruKction Of Light
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 16:41
Discipline Islands Red the rest
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 16:44
twseel wrote:
1. Larks2. Red 3. Court 4. Disci 5. Starl 6. Wake 7. Lizz 8. Isles
haven't heard any newer stuff yet
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What the hell are all these?
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 17:22
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twseel wrote:
1. Larks2. Red 3. Court 4. Disci 5. Starl 6. Wake 7. Lizz 8. Isles
haven't heard any newer stuff yet
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What the hell are all these?
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Well, that's the abbrev. version. The Abbrev. of Abbrev. is Abbrev. He could also write: LTIA, R, ITCOTCK, D, SABB, ITWOP, L, I.
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Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 17:41
1. In The Court Of The Crimson King 2. Larks Tongues In Aspic 3. Red 4. Islands 5. Discipline 6. Starless And Bible Black 7. In The Wake Of Poseidon 8. Thrak 9. Beat 10. The Power To Believe 11. Lizard 12. The Construktion Of Light 13. A Scarcity Of Miracles
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: July 25 2014 at 02:41
Formentera Lady wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twseel wrote:
1. Larks2. Red 3. Court 4. Disci 5. Starl 6. <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Wake</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">7. Lizz</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">8. Isles</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">haven't heard any newer stuff yet</span>
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What the hell are all these?
| Well, that's the abbrev. version. The Abbrev. of Abbrev. is Abbrev. He could also write: LTIA, R, ITCOTCK, D, SABB, ITWOP, L, I. | exactl.
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Posted By: Konsonans
Date Posted: July 25 2014 at 10:14
9. The Power to Believe 8. In the Wake of Poseidon 7. Islands 6. Red 5. In the Court of the Crimson King
4. Discipline 3. Starless and Bible Black 2. Lizard 1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: July 25 2014 at 11:26
Red Discipline Three of a Perfect Pair Larks' Tounge in Aspic In the Wake of Poseidon Thrak Islands The Power to Believe
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: July 26 2014 at 01:30
twseel wrote:
Formentera Lady wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twseel wrote:
1. Larks2. Red 3. Court 4. Disci 5. Starl 6. <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Wake</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">7. Lizz</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">8. Isles</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">haven't heard any newer stuff yet</span>
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What the hell are all these?
| Well, that's the abbrev. version. The Abbrev. of Abbrev. is Abbrev. He could also write: LTIA, R, ITCOTCK, D, SABB, ITWOP, L, I. | exactl. |
I knew that I was just sh you
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Crimsonsnowdog
Date Posted: November 13 2014 at 22:28
1. Red 2. Lark's Tongues in Aspic 3.In the Court of the Crimson King 4.Lizard 5.Starless and Bible Black 6.Discipline 7. In the Wake of Poseidon 8.Islands 9.Power to Believe 10.Thrak 11.Three of a Perfect Pair 12.Beat 13.Construktion of Light
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 10:07
someone_else wrote:
The albums I have heard in their entirety at least once:
1. Islands
2. In the Wake of Poseidon
3. Red
4. In the Court of the Crimson King
5. Lizard Yeah, I tend to listen to albums in their entirety also. 6. Larks'Tongues in Aspic
7. Discipline
8. Starless and Bible Black
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 10:54
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I'll ignore the live albums and the Projekcts for simplicity though Great Deceiver boxset is my favorite
1) Larks' Tongues in Aspic 2) Red 3) In the Court of the Crimson King 4) Lizard 5) Discipline 6) Starless and Bible Black 7) The Power to Believe 8) Islands 9) In the Wake of Poseidon 10) Beat 11) THRAK 12) Three of a Perfect Pair 13) The ConstruKction of Light |
Crimsonsnowdog wrote:
1. Red 2. Lark's Tongues in Aspic 3.In the Court of the Crimson King 4.Lizard 5.Starless and Bible Black 6.Discipline 7. In the Wake of Poseidon 8.Islands 9.Power to Believe 10.Thrak 11.Three of a Perfect Pair 12.Beat 13.Construktion of Light |
Pretty damn close
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 10:57
1. Lizard, Red, Starless and Bible Black, In the Court of the Crimson King, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Islands, In the Wake of Poseidon
8. Discipline
9. The Power to Believe, Thrak
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 11:45
- Larks Tongues in Aspic
- Red
- Islands
- In the Wake of Poseidon
- The ConstruKction of Light
- Discipline
- In the Court...
- THRAK
- The Power to Believe
- Starless and Bible Black
- Lizard
- Three of a Perfect Pair
- Beat
Even the last 3 are worth 3 stars from me, a consistently good band for several decades.
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Posted By: ebil0505
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 12:38
1. Islands 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 4. Red 5. In the Wake of Poseidon 6. Discipline 7. Lizard 8. Thrak
I haven't really listened to the others enough to rate them. But maybe now I'll get on that, just cause it's freaking king crimson
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 14:25
Islands
Red
Lizard
Lark's Tounge
Starless
Wake
Court
The rest is music from a different band....some great stuff, especially Discipline, but it just ain't Crimso.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 15:29
Discipline Larks' Tongues In Aspic In The Court of The Crimson King Lizard Red THRAK Three of a Perfect Pair The Power To Believe The ConstruKtion of Light VROOOM Starless and Bible Black In The Wake of Poseidon Beat Islands
A very illustrious discography. Beat and Islands Are alright, and everything gets much better from there.
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: January 16 2015 at 08:04
1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 2. In the Court of The Crimson King 3. Red 4. Lizard 5. Discipline 6. In The Wake of Poseidon 7. Islands 8. Beat 9. Thrak 10. The ConstruKtion of Light
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 17 2015 at 11:58
I actually struggle with this, although I'm a moderately big Crimson fan, because I pretty rarely listen to the studio albums. It's all about the live recordings for me, basically. For which we are rather well served!
Having said that, of the 69-74 albums, Larks and Red are tops. Starless, Islands, Court and Lizard after that. The 80s and onwards albums seem to be in a different category and I find it hard to make comparisons with the earlier groups.
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: January 17 2015 at 12:12
Mascodagama wrote:
I actually struggle with this, although I'm a moderately big Crimson fan, because I pretty rarely listen to the studio albums. It's all about the live recordings for me, basically. For which we are rather well served!
Having said that, of the 69-74 albums, Larks and Red are tops. Starless, Islands, Court and Lizard after that. The 80s and onwards albums seem to be in a different category and I find it hard to make comparisons with the earlier groups. |
I believe that should be a good thing in this case.
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Posted By: floflo79
Date Posted: January 17 2015 at 12:37
01. Red (9,9/10) 02. In The Court Of The Crimson King (9,8/10) 03. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (9,6/10) 04. Lizard (9,5/10) 05. Starless And Bible Back (9/10) 06. Discipline (8,8/10) 07. THRAK (8/10) 08. In The Wake Of Poseidon (7,9/10) 09. Beat (7,5/10) 10. The Power To Believe (7,5/10) 11. Islands (7,3/10) 12. The ConstruKction Of Light (7/10) 13. Three Of A Perfect Pair (5/10)
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 17 2015 at 15:43
Lizard, ITCOTCK
LTIA, ITWOP, Red, Thrakk
Islands, SaBB, Discipline , Power to Believe
Beat, 3oaPP, Constrkction of Light
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Posted By: Wakeman's Birotron
Date Posted: January 18 2015 at 19:47
1-Red 2-Larks Tongues In Aspic 3-In the Court of the Crimson King 4-Lizard 5-Discipline 6-Islands 7-Starless and Bibleblack 8-In the Wake of Poseidon 9-The Power to Believe 10-Thrak 11-Three of a Perfect Pair
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Posted By: agw801
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 20:35
Larks Tongues in Aspic A Scarcity of Miracles The Elements 2014 Tour Box Starless and Bible Black Islands The Collectable King Crimson - Volume One In the Court of the Crimson King Lizard Live at The Orpheum Theatre Heavy Construction The Great Deciever Live at Shepherds Bush Empire, London, 1996 Red Three of a Perfect Pair The Construction of Light The Power to Believe Discipline Thrak Vroom Space Groove Live at Summit Studios, Denver 1972 In The Wake of Poseidon Beat Earthbound
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 21:14
I dont know King Crimson discography so good, but I do know that I cant understand the low rating to "Starless and Bible Black" and the great rate to "Red" - the two album are so close in musical terms...
Love both, by the way.
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Posted By: agw801
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 13:10
I feel that the reason that the album Red is preferred by most listeners to Starless and Bible Black is that they feel Red was more advanced and forward thinking, anticipating the next phase in the '80s. My viewpoint is 73-74 was a higher peak than the '80s. On a tune-to-tune comparison: I like Fractured better than Red: It's complexity transports the mind, while red just rocks. I like The Mincer better than Providence: The mood of this improv and the applied lyrics....one of a kind! The updated Starless from the 2014 Tour takes that tune to another level.
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Posted By: John McIntyre
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 15:42
I've got about 35 King Crimson albums, of one sort or another, but I can't grade all of them. So I'll do the top few and the bottom few. 1) Red 2) The Night Watch (Live at Amsterdam) 3) The Great Deceiver (4-CD set) 4) USA (30th Anniversary Edition) 5) In the Wake of Poseidon 6) THRAK 7) B'BOOM 8) Absent Lovers (Live in Montreal) . . . 31) Summit Studios, Denver 32) The Construkction of Light 33) The Power to Believe (I don't) 34) Live at the Marquee - 1969 35) Earthbound '69-74 Crimson is, has been, and always will be the best Crimson of all!
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 15:47
I'm very traditional I rate them pretty much in order of appearance. 1) in the court 2) In the wake 3 Lizard 4) Islands 5) Larks Tongues, Starless and Bible Black, Red - pick em
I didn't much listen to the stuff post 1980. I did have "Beat" and didn't like it
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 15:53
agw801 wrote:
Larks Tongues in AspicA Scarcity of Miracles
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Pretty bizarre seeing Scarcity rated so highly. I find it a very different cat to their discography, more like a Crimson influenced Jakko solo album. It's technically not a Crimson record.
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Posted By: agw801
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 22:36
No doubt you have a view point that resonates with most people, from reading many reviews of A Scarcity of Miracles. But to my ears, this album sounds very much like a King Crimson work. I love the mood this album produces, reminding me very much of songs like Islands, Book of Saturday, Exiles, and the Night Watch while at the very same time, being a different cat altogether....that is exploring an uncharted area of the musical map. (I bet you find the saxophone texturing distracting, but I feel it adds one more layer of richness and depth.) Indeed, this is a pretty sounding album, but the tone expresses angst, the lyrics are multi-dimensional and for me create an atmosphere of an Eden-esque landscape during a time when one hell of a storm is approaching, with wind and rain damage foreshadowing the probability of more to come.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 24 2015 at 03:55
Regardless of my opinion Fripp still classifies it as a ProjeKct rather than a full band release.
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Posted By: A_Flower
Date Posted: July 30 2015 at 08:46
1. Red 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Larks' Tounges in Aspic 4. In the Wake of Posiedon 5. Islands 6. Discipline 7. Lizard 8. Starless and Bible Black
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: December 05 2016 at 22:27
Best- Lizard
- Islands
- In The Wake of Poseidon
- Larks' Tongues In Aspic
- In The Court of The Crimson King
- Red
- Starless and Bible Black
- Discipline (the only one of these I definitely don't like)
Least best
I'm not familiar enough with their other studio material to rank it, and I chose not to include any live recordings, either.
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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 14:49
1. In the Wake of Poseidon 2. Lizard 3. In the Court of the Crimson King 4. Red 5. Islands 6. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 7. Discipline 8. Starless and Bible Black
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Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 14:58
1. Lizard 2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 3. Islands 4. Discipline 5. In the Court of the Crimson King 6. Starless and Bible Black 7. In the Wake of Poseidon 8. Red
#6 and #7 are interchangeable
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Posted By: EddieRUKiddingVarese
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 15:31
1. In The Wake Of Poseidon (10/10) 2. Lizard (9/10) 3. In The Court Of The Crimson King (9/10) 4. Red (9/10) 5. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (8/10) 6. Islands (8/10) 7. Discipline (8/10) 8. Starless And Bible Black (7/10) 9. The Power To Believe (7/10) 10. Beat (7/10) 11. Three Of A Perfect Pair (7/10) 12. THRAK (6/10) 13. The ConstruKction Of Light (5/10)
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 16:09
1. Starless and Bible Black (9/10) 2. The Power to Believe (8/10) 3. The ConstruKction Of Light (7/10) 4. THRAK (7/10) 5. Red (6/10) 6. In the Wake of Poseidon (5/10) 7. Larks' Tongues in Aspic (4/10) 8. In the Court of the Crimson King (2/10)
The rest (1/10)
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Posted By: HosiannaMantra
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 16:29
1. Starless and Bible Black (IMO the album that sums up everything King Crimson were great for) 2. Islands 3. Lark's Tongues in Aspic 4. In the Court of the Crimson King 5. In the Wake of Poseidon 6. Red 7. Lizard 8. Discipline 9. Beat 10. Thrak 11. Three of a Perfect pair 12. The Power to Believe 13. The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 17:34
Man With Hat wrote:
Discipline
LTIA
Lizard
The Power To Believe
Red
In The Court...
Three Of A Perfect Pair
In The Wake...
SABB
The ConstruKction...
Islands
Thrak
Beat |
I still basically agree with this. I'd move Red up one and the middle bit (TOAPP, ITWOP, and SABB) are more or less interchangeable.
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Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 18:27
Lark's Red Court Discipline S&BB Lizard Islands Poseidon Beat Power to Believe Thrak Construkction* 3oaPP*
*Records I don't care much for
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 01:16
Ranking KC albums is something I find hard to do, in fact I drew a blank, apart from a few exceptions. Generally I find most of them to be 4 star albums with a handful reaching 5 stars. And the 4 star albums would be 5 stars as well, if that handful didn't exist, so it's not a quality- but a comparison thing.
Here are my fivers:
- Lizard - Islands - Power to Believe - Thrak - Red
Yes, in that order.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 07:34
Discipline Red Three of a Perfect Pair Beat Lark's Tongues Thrak In the Court Lizard Absent Lovers USA Power to Believe SBB Poseidon (...)
Surely, Earthbound is the worst album I ever owned so it'll easily win the "worst" contest.
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Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: January 06 2017 at 09:23
1. Lizard 3. ITCOTCK 5. Red 6. In the wake of Poseidon Not a fan of KC.
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Posted By: Scorpius
Date Posted: January 06 2017 at 16:11
1. Red 2. ITCOTCK 3. Larks 4. Lizard 5. SABB 6. Islands 7. Discipline 8. ITWOP
sticking to the ones I own, just to be fair.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: January 06 2017 at 17:27
Posiedon-9/10 Lizard-8.5/10 Three of a perfect pair-8/10 Red-7.5/10 Larks-7.5/10 In the court-7/10
Kind of stopped collecting after that.
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Posted By: mike1259
Date Posted: May 25 2017 at 02:23
I posted an opinion here 3 years ago admitting I rarely listened to the 2nd trilogy (Discipline, Beat, Three Of A Perfect Pair) and am here to report that since then I've come to appreciated those three albums in a huge way. It would seem at the earlier time I was using single full-range drivers (which I love) and I've discovered since then KC calls for large speakers with 2 or three drivers and high-quality crossovers. It would seem compression sets in otherwise and muddles the sound. Yes, accessibility is not a factor when one is served up such dazzling musicianship. At this point I consider all three equal and each complementing the other two. I understand the Chapman Stick will put off some(Evoking memories of 'Seinfeld") but one person's wart could be a beauty mark to others. Buford's 'batterie' here shows he did indeed evolve and mounted the summit reserved for the finest world-class drummers of any genre. Likewise der Frippmeister could not have played his instrument any better. Though not quite as good as that 1st trilogy I'm very pleased overall and fortunate to have re-explored the KC cannon.
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Posted By: Mavil64
Date Posted: May 31 2018 at 07:07
I'll rate only the albums that I've listened to from start to finish.
1.Lark's Tongue In Aspic 20/20 2.Lizard 20/20 (Could easily be in #1 but decided to put it second due to the fact that I listen to LTIA more) 3.Red 19/20 4.Islands 18/20 5.In the Court of the Crimson King 18/20 (I didn't enjoy I Talk to the Wind even though all the others were amazing. Even more than many songs above this but due to this fact I had to rate it down) 6.In the Wake of Poseidon 17/20
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 31 2018 at 11:29
KC haven´t made any bad album. Anyway here´s my order: 1. In the Court 2. Red 3. Lizard 4. Larks Tongues In Aspic 5. In the Wake Of Poseidon 6. Starless & Bible Black 7. Islands 8. THRAK 9. Discipline 10. the ConstruKction Of Light 11. the Power to Believe 12. Beat 13. Three of a Perfect Pair
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: May 31 2018 at 16:37
For me, the four absolute must own KC classics are Red, Larks Tongues, In the Court, and Discipline, so my order would be: 1. Red 2. Larks Tongues in Aspic 3. Discipline 4. In The Court of The Crimson King 5. Starless and Bible Black 6. Lizard 7. Beat 8. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. In the Wake of Poseidon 10. The Power to Believe 11. Islands 12. THRAK 13. VROOM 14. The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: May 31 2018 at 17:56
^ Agreed. These four are the essential KC.
My personal order of preference:
1. Larks Tongues In Aspic 2. Discipline 3. Starless & Bible Black 4. Court 5. Lizard 6. Red 7. Islands 8. Beat 9. The Power to Believe 10. THRAK 11. The ConstruKction Of Light 12. Poseidon 13. Three of a Perfect Pair
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Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: May 31 2018 at 21:25
Here is my list of the studio albums. Not only is Red my fav album, but Starless is one of my fav pieces of music, ever
1) Red 2) Discipline 3) Larks' Tongues in Aspic 4) In the Court of the Crimson King 5) Starless and Bible Black 6) Three of a Perfect Pair 7) Thrak 8) Beat 9) Lizard 10) In the Wake of Poseidon 11) The Power to Believe 12) Islands 13) The ConstruKction of Light 14) A Scarcity of Miracles
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: June 01 2018 at 08:17
Larks' Tongues In Aspic 10/10 In The Court Of The Crimson King 10/10 Red 10/10 Starless And Bible Black 10/10 Lizard 8.5/10 Discipline 8/10 Islands 7.5/10 In The Wake Of Poseidon 7/10 Thrak 7/10 Three Of A Perfect Pair 6.5/10 The Power To Believe 6/10 A Scarcity Of Miracles 6/10 The ConstruKction Of Light 5.5/10 Beat 4/10
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: April 08 2019 at 13:30
Just going with the ones I own. LTIA Starless & Bible Black Red Discipline ITCOTCK
I've heard bits & pieces from others but not enough to rank them against these.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 09 2019 at 00:03
Red Power To Believe ITCHYCOCK The other seventies albums Eighties stuff
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Posted By: Whamdaddy
Date Posted: April 09 2019 at 09:17
Red Lizards Islands court Larks Poisiden
then they all kinda jumble together
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Posted By: Ozexpat
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 18:52
1. Red 2. Larks Tongues In Aspic 3. Discipline 4. Starless & Bible Black 5. In the Court 6. Lizard 7. Islands 8. THRAK = the ConstruKction Of Light = the Power to Believe = Beat = Three of a Perfect Pair.
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 08:10
https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=51000" rel="nofollow - https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=51000
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 09:50
Discipline Red Beat
Three of a Perfect Pair Lizard Larks' Tongues in Aspic Thrak In the Court of the Crimson King Starless and Bible Black The Power to Believe
In the Wake of Poseidon Islands The ConstruKCtion of Light
Actually they're all very good, down to the last rank. What I really don't like is Earthbound, but that's live.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 09:58
I don't know the later ones so I'm only going to do the ones I'm familiar with(70's and 80's). Ranked from favorite to least favorite:
LTIA ITCOTCK ITWOP Red Lizard SABB Discipline TOAPP Islands Beat
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 16:38
I haven't finished to listen and evaluate (and write the reviews on) KC discography.
At the moment:
FIVE STARS 1. In The Court Of The Crimson King (9,5/10) 2. Red (9+/10) 3. Islands (9/10) ------- FOUR AND A HALF STARS 4. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (9-/10) 5. Lizard (9-/10) ------ FOUR STARS 6. The Power To Believe (8,5/10) 7. Starless And Bible Black (8+/10) 8. Beat (8+/10) ----- THREE STARS 9. Discipline (8-/10) 10. In The Wake Of Poseidon (7,5/10) ----- TWO STARS 11. Three of a Perfect Pair (7-/10) 12. THRAK (6,5/10) 13. The ConstruKction Of Light ??
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Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 04:36
Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 05:25
DreamTechPlus wrote:
Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon |
Interesting! TOAPP as the second best KC album and ITCOTCK as the second worst. I guess everyone's taste is different, but I think your ranking would be considered "non-standard". I agree with you that Discipline is a great album though, and great to see Beat ranked higher than some others on this site would rank it.
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Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 06:19
Chaser wrote:
DreamTechPlus wrote:
Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon |
Interesting! TOAPP as the second best KC album and ITCOTCK as the second worst. I guess everyone's taste is different, but I think your ranking would be considered "non-standard". I agree with you that Discipline is a great album though, and great to see Beat ranked higher than some others on this site would rank it. |
I enjoy prog but, to be quite honest, I've fallen out of love with the type of bombast you might get out of symphonic prog records that you'd find on the Greg Lake era. I think a lot of ITCOTCK is a bit dated. Influential, important and essential yes. But just for me I find it in 2019 to be a bit... well... silly.
I enjoy prog with more modernity (it is in the genre's name after all) and a more current political and social consciousness as well as a more pop and rhythm based aesthetic.
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