A question about site policy
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Topic: A question about site policy
Posted By: BaldFriede
Subject: A question about site policy
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:00
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I sometimes truly wonder about the site politics regarding artist
additions. While a band like "Atlantis", (the German band which
featuring Inga Rumpf of Frumpy (who are in he archives as fully prog) as
singer who made at least twoo albums that border prog (thee first
self-titled one and "It's Getting Better") the band "Jeronimo" is added
under "Kraurock" though the only thing "Kraut" about them is that they
are a German band. The music of Jeromimo however can best be compared to
the music of Credence Clearwater Revival, and I am certain no-one would
dream of having them added to the archives. The reason I especially mention Credence Clearwater Revival in comparison with them is that the two bands actually did an album together, on which Jeronimo played on one side and Credence Clearwater Revival on the other.. The cover of that album is somewhat infamous; have a look for yourself.  While the two singles of Jeronimo (cover versions of songs by J. J. Light and Steam) had some success in Europe Atlantis certainly were the more successful band;.Their first album sold well in the USA due to the blues-oriented vocals of Inga Rumpf, and a 1973 poll of the at that time important German music magazine in 1973 placed them among the top three in the category "most liked artist". You can listen to the three albums Jeronimo made by themselves here; unfortunately I don't have a link to their co-production with CCR. And here for comparison a link to another post of me in which I put links to the first two albums of Atlantis. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97506" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97506 I honestly think that the site politics are highly questionable when you compare these two bands. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:05
| Perhaps a questionable addition but I'm not sure what you mean by "site politics". |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:10
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Let me get this straight -- - Atlantis is not in PA but should be - Jeronimo is in PA but should not be, a point strengthened by the fact they have ties to CCR and using these as an example, - you're asking if site politics are involved, or - you know or suspect site politics are involved, and you just wanted to draw our attention to it....and: - by "site politics" you mean that a powerful few have unusual influence over whom gets added and whom doesn't, or perhaps the site as a whole is susceptible to outside pressures that compromise its integrity Is this correct? Just trying to figure out what you're trying to say. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:29
You get me wrong about "site politics". What I mean by that is the necessary condiions for addition to the archives. A band like Atlantis with numerous prog relations and at least two prog-related albums is excluded for "prog-related" while a band like Jeronimo is included in the genre "Krautrock" (to which they have no connection at all except being German) although there are fewer prog-relations for them (though there are some via guitarist Frank Diez and, if Atlantis were included, drummer Ringo Funk). ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
HolyMoly wrote:Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:36
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I think policies is probably a better choice of words than politics. I think everyone can find some additions or omissions with which they don't agree, however. Are these examples of something you perceive to be a widespread deficiency? |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:41
No, but a blatant example. I actually wanted to use "policy" at first, by the way. I changed the title now. It is in my opinion something most people will agree to after having listened to the albums to which I posted the links. Unfortunately there is no link to the whole first Atlantis album, so I had to give these links track for track. But I included the whole album. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:50
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< ="text/" ="" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0"> I vaguely remember evaluating Atlantis for Electic Prog, and know that I voted Prog Related. Jeronimo was added by the Krautrock team, and I don't know if that team ever considered Atlantis. When it comes to politics in the sense of governance one does not always find consistency since different teams have different parameters, and those teams are made up of individuals who have their own notions. One often find category team members who disagree about additions, but majority rules (except, perhaps, in some controversial cases). Sometimes acts are left out after one team dismisses them that another team might have accepted, and sometimes an act gets in that had it gone through another team first might have been rejected outright. Teams do try to work together to an extent, and teams pass on suggestions to other teams, but without a really centralised additions authority one will find more inconsistency. I think it's rather inevitable that we will find inconsistency since each team understands its parameters best (and sets the parameters to an extent), and one team may not understand another team's expectations that well so it may not get passed on. A highly centralised system for evaluations could be problematic since the main jury should know all of the category parameters well. It's kind of hard for me to explain right now, so sorry if I'm muddying the waters (I'm actually rushing through it). Since I now see a response to work with, I can add that to what I've already written.
Okay, try now. To get into Prog Related requires considerable effort by an SC to make a case for a band. Although I thought Atlantis fit for Prog Related, and could have made a case for it, I didn't choose to. Actually, I hadn't even heard enough music to come to a definitive enough conclusion at the time, but voted PR based on what I knew with the caveat that my vote was subject to change if more material was made available to me. Listening to more music now, I do think I was on the right track. It also was a band that I was not fmailair enough with to comfortably make a case for. Jeronimo was evaluated by different people from a different team than Atlantis who have their own expectations. I can't speak for Jeronimo's worthiness, or non-worthiness (I know that Philippe knows more about Krautrock than I ever will and I wouldn't be fit to question his judgement -- plus he has played an important role in shaping his category). I just wish I'd passed Atlantis to him for his input at the time (I probably assumed that he knew it anyway). I'm not a team member anymore, and don't wish to now. EDIT: Just to make clear, each sub-genre team, and team member (past and present), has a level of autonomy when it comes to evaluations. Although there are various site policies to adhere to, one is bound to perceive inconsistencies across PA both in how one subgenre works (things change) and across sub-genres.. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 16:11
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I am definitely most knowledgeable about Krautrock; it is my favourite genre. On the other hand Philippe's opinions are in my opinion sometimes a bit eccentric, to put it mildly. I know how additions to the archive work. Unfortunately I am not a "special collaborator", and I have no idea what is required to be one, else I would have asked to become one or joined the Krautrock team long ago. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 16:24
You don't have to be an "SC" to be a genre-team member. That said, admins generally invite one to become a member of the team. I would PM one of them if you are generally interested in doing this kind of work for the site. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 16:40
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 16:46
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Of course, Friede, I forgot that you were a Prog reviewer and so would have observed how teams work more than most. If you can become a team member, and are deemed to work hard and do a good job out of the gates, then becoming an SC might not take that long. If you become an admin, then you have a chance at having a say in what gets included in PR and PP (as I'm sure you know already). In becoming an admin, though, I once heard that it helped if you posted in the Grey Room, and I'm sure you haven't a grey hair on your body. That said, things have changed. You have a restaurant, but do you have a shed? (sheds no longer required either). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 16:54
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I am Friede, not Jean. But else I agree. I will inquire about becoming a team member. We are often confused with each other because we use the same avatar. It is the cover of our first and only album "The Goat and the Donkey" (published under the band name Bald Angels), of which only 500 copies were made which we sold at our restaurant. A second album with the title "It's a Dog's Life" was planned but never published, though we already had a cover picture for it (which was extremely daring). Here is a bigger version of the avatar:  I am the one in the back, by the way. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 18:12
Helpful hint: Friede is the one that has "Friede" in her username. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 18:19
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Hang on. Firstly - you think this band "Atlantis" is Prog Related. Secondly - you've proposed them before and they were rejected for Eclectic Prog team Thirdly - The Eclectic Prog team thought they were at best Prog Related. Fourthly - no SC proposed them to the Admins for inclusion into Prog Related Fifthly - they have never been proposed for to the Admins Prog Related so they have never been rejected by the Admins for Prog Related Sixthly - this is now seen as some deliberate policy to exclude them from the archive. Seventhly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team, even though you have no idea how this site works Eighthly- you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team, even though that genre is pretty much dead as dead can be and most, if not all, of the Krautrock bands that have ever existed in the history of German rock music have been found, identified, evaluated, cleared, pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, numbered, included and sometimes even reviewed. Ninthly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team because a band you suggested three and a half years ago got rejected. Tenthly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team even though being a member of that team still won't result in that band added into Prog Related. Eleventhly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team because after being a Prog Review for the best part of nine years you've amassed a staggering total of ten reviews, none of which have been for Krautbloodyrock, only two of which manage to exceed 150 words in total and you've not produced anything for the past five years. With all due respect. You've been here almost ten years and for the most of that time you have had privileged access to the CZ: yet you do not know how the collab structure works, you don't appear to know how the team system works, you don't know how bands are evaluated and added, you certainly don't know how Prog Related words (and no clues guys, let Friede work it out for herself), you don't write reviews and I'll take a wild stab in the dark that you don't even know who is on the Krautrock team. These are the kinds of things you ought to know before you fly off making assumptions and accusations and certainly before you even think about volunteering for anything. Oh and btw - the proper English grammar for your signature is "BaldJean and me; I am the one in blue.", you only use the pronoun "I" when it is the subject of a verb, in this instance both you and Jean are the objects of a verb even though the verb itself ("is") is unstated.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 18:28
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[QUOTE=Dean]
Hang on. Firstly - you think this band "Atlantis" is Prog Related. Secondly - you've proposed them before and they were rejected for Eclectic Prog team Thirdly - The Eclectic Prog team thought they were at best Prog Related. Fourthly - no SC proposed them to the Admins for inclusion into Prog Related Fifthly - they have never been proposed for to the Admins Prog Related so they have never been rejected by the Admins for Prog Related Sixthly - this is now seen as some deliberate policy to exclude them from the archive. Seventhly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team, even though you have no idea how this site works Eighthly- you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team, even though that genre is pretty much dead as dead can be and most, if not all, of the Krautrock bands that have ever existed in the history of German rock music have been found, identified, evaluated, cleared, pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, numbered, included and sometimes even reviewed. Ninthly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team because a band you suggested three and a half years ago got rejected. Tenthly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team even though being a member of that team still won't result in that band added into Prog Related. Eleventhly - you now want to volunteer to join the Krautrock team because after being a Prog Review for the best part of nine years you've amassed a staggering total of ten reviews, none of which have been for Krautbloodyrock, only two of which manage to exceed 150 words in total and you've not produced anything for the past five years. With all due respect. You've been here almost ten years and for the most of that time you have had privileged access to the CZ: yet you do not know how the collab structure works, you don't appear to know how the team system works, you don't know how bands are evaluated and added, you certainly don't know how Prog Related words (and no clues guys, let Friede work it out for herself), you don't write reviews and I'll take a wild stab in the dark that you don't even know who is on the Krautrock team. These are the kinds of things you ought to know before you fly off making assumptions and accusations and certainly before you even think about volunteering for anything. Oh and btw - the proper English grammar for your signature is "BaldJean and me; I am the one in blue.", you only use the pronoun "I" when it is the subject of a verb, in this instance both you and Jean are the objects of a verb even though the verb itself ("is") is unstated. Wrong on several points, Dean. And especially about the grammar. "And me" is certainly colloquially used, but the correct grammar is "and II".------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 18:43
Nope. I'll state it again - you only use the pronoun "I" when it is the subject of a verb, in this instance both you and Jean are the objects of a verb even though the verb itself ("is") is unstated. "The cat sat on the mat" sat is the verb; cat is the subject and mat is the object "I sat on the mat" I is the subject doing the sitting, you would not say "Me sat on the mat" "The cat sat on me" me is the object being sat upon, you would not say "the cat sat on I" So to put the unstated verb back into the sentence it would read "[this is] Jean and I; I am the one in blue" Now, that may sound correct but it is not. The check for that is to remove "Jean and" from the sentence and it should still make sense. In this case it would now read "[This is] I; I am the one in blue" and that is clearly grammatically incorrect, you would say "[This is] me; I am the one in blue" Therefore the correct grammar is "[This is] Jean and me; I am the one in blue."  ------------- What? |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 19:14
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As an English teacher I am chipping in to say.... Dean has it right. grammatically speaking that is. ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 19:17
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I think we should let this person be the judge of what correct grammar is. Listen to this speech, especially shortly after 4:30: ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 19:46
Oh for crying out loud... One more time for the hard of comprehension: you only use the pronoun "I" when it is the subject of a verb, in this instance both you and Jean are the objects of a verb even though the verb itself ("is") is unstated. "My husband and I paid visit to Portugal" "visit" is the verb "My Husband and I" is the SUBJECT "Portugal" is the OBJECT Follow the rule - remove the "My husband and" from the sentence to check that it makes sense: "I paid a visit to Portugal" - big tick and a gold star to the lady in the tiara. Therefore Queen Mrs Betty Windsor is perfectly correct in her use of "and I" ------------- What? |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 20:04
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And you and I got into a fight over grammar |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 20:07
Wrong in one aspect, Dean. The caption of the picture is not a full sentence, it is an ellipsis. So it is only an assumption of you that the caption of the photo is supposed to be "This is BaldJean and I". The full caption would however be "BaldJean and I sitting at a table of our restaurant". ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 20:09
| Wow, you are desperate. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 20:20
*sigh* Again, remove the "BaldJean and" from the sentence to see if it makes grammatical sense: "I sitting at a table of our restaurant" ... oh dear, wrong again so, sorry, no prize. The correct form is still "Me sitting at a table of our restaurant" What we have here is now an unstated preposition, since the pronoun is the object of a preposition it cannot also be the subject of a verb. So another way of putting the caption would be to add in the unstated preposition: "A photograph of BaldJean and me sitting at a table of our restaurant" where "BaldJean and me" would be the object of the preposition "of" because clearly that is what it is, a photograph of you.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 20:21
Except we didn't, but I can't fault your grammar. ------------- What? |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 23:46
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That is, Friede, you say we should evaluate Atlantis in Admin Team whether they can be fit for Related or not ... right? As Greg (Logan) says, they've got voted "Related" in Eclectic Team and I have respect for their final decision. EDIT: And Dean, sorry for my poor (grammar-broken) Engrish.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 02:38
Your grammar Keishiro is, as always, impeccable, your interesting and unusual sentence structure isn't bad grammar. Anyway, you are correct about Atlantis, if this means that you are taking them to the Admin team yourself for evaluation then I will do the addition if they are accepted.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 03:03
This place really is becoming uber mental. As far as the policies for the evaluation of bands and the privileges enjoyed by collaborators goes, as forthright and unpalatable as Dean's stated position may be, I can only endorse his sentiments wholeheartedly. The 'grammar wars' however are just plain vanilla tiresome from intelligent adults (is intelliGENT sexist? does anal retentive have a hyphen? does anyone on here catalogue their own faeces? )Similarly to the Stripping a Myth ITCOTCK thread, this is just another transparently disingenuous ruse with which to stir up controversy for the enjoyment of an OP who is clearly so bored that smug contrariness is the only contribution she has to offer PA. It's Friday night so I'm not entirely sober...so f*ck off hippy  ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 03:32
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Simultaneously erudite and puerile while managing to confuse Jean with Freide, it can only be that I.a.i.n. bloke. ------------- What? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 03:41
OK there's humour in there and I've tried to keep it light-hearted but what's childishly silly and immature about it? Hardly a heinous crime to confuse two people who use the one avatar methinks?  Anyway, I'm not the one arguing like a pedantic school ma'am over grammatical nitpicking -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 03:48
Trust you not to complain about being called erudite. Typical. ------------- What? |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:02
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The missus says that Dean is utterly correct in his grammatical statements. I agree with her, because she is always correct in these matters. The missus also wonders whether we would all be better off getting a life. I did try to explain to her that these things are important, but, there we go. The missus also wonders whether someone should make an application for me to be evaluated for Krautrock, or failing that related to some form of German thingy, on the basis that I was born in Germany (Dad was in the army), and that I used to sing a bit, but am now an ageing rocker. Personally, I think she could be on to something!  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:06
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Steve for Krautrock? Absolutely Capital!
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:17
You were born in Germany and choose to live in Wales? That's like swapping a dinghy for an anvil -------------
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:18
David, I have explained to The Boss just what a huge move forward having an Admin's backing in this eval process is. She sends love and kisses  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:20
 ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:22
Heh, heh! We came back to England when I was a young boy. My sister was born in Aldershot. I lived in various parts of England up until 1999, when I moved to Wales on promotion with work (it was either accept the job in Wales, or lose the career). It worked out well. I met the wife, had the sprog, and career has blossomed. All I have to do is keep very quiet when England beat Wales in the rugger, and all is at peace! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 06:26
Alas I failed English language O level back in 1972 with a grade so low I must have also managed to misspell my own name at the top of the examination paper, at the time someone joked that I could have achieved a better grade if I had left the paper blank. My old Headmaster was less charitable, he said I would never achieve anything in life with such a poor understanding of the written word and my progress to A levels was thus curtailed. Having discovered later that a mild form of dyslexia was a contributory factor in the learning difficulties I encountered during my school days, I endeavoured to teach myself at my own pace, to pursue higher education and attain a degree, spurred on with the desire to prove my Headmaster wrong and achieve something in life without a piece of paper that proclaims that I can write English in a goodly fashion. Some forty years later I am still learning and while I have yet to master the act of tying shoe laces, I have taught myself to approach grammar as a technical problem to be analysed and solved following logical rules. My missus, who is an English teacher at a Sixth-form college, occasionally comes to me for advice on grammar. Last night while she was sat marking students work, it was on the use of "practice" and "practise" - and while I instinctively knew the difference ("I practise my piano practice.") I could not immediately explain why, however analysing that example reveals the answer - practise is a verb, practice is a noun - and that sounds like a mathematical rule to me so I double-checked that with "licence" and "license" and with "advice" and "advise" - low and behold - the rule holds true. QED. I know I've come across as a grammar-bully here, ready to pounce upon every minor transgression with the fervour of a rabid pedant, and I can only apologise for that, it is never my intent to do that. Using colloquial grammar in a post is nothing to be critical of, we all do it - I will continue to use the erroneous phrase "baited breath" even though Peter has corrected me on that (the correct term is "abated breath") because I like the pun, (think angler fish) and whenever I've used it here my words were indeed intended as "bait". When people misuse you're and your or there, their and they're I happily ignore it and move on - we all know what the person meant, there is no ambiguity or cause for confusion. Friede's grammar in her signature affects me differently, (and again, I apologise to Friede for perpetuating this argument), it is a permanent statement that I see every time she posts and it rankles me that someone with a mathematically keen mind such as hers would let such a common misuse of grammar mark each post she makes. In recompense for my unreasonable behaviour last night http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97510&PID=4957516#4957516" rel="nofollow - I have volunteered to add Atlantis into Prog Related if the Admins vote to accept them . This of course assumes that I have read Keishiro's comment correctly, and if I haven't then I will take it upon myself to propose them on Friede's behalf. [And that is something else that irks me every time someone posts a "why are xxxx not here" post, (not withstanding that few ever read the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146&PID=3942761#3942761" rel="nofollow - PR submission guidelines that can be found atop the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/" rel="nofollow - Forum Home Page ), with over 100 Special Collaborators on this site no one ever seems to ask any of them to propose a band for Prog Related on their behalf.] ...and no, I don't have a life. This is my life, albeit only a part time one as it doesn't pay the mortgage. (get well soon Steve, and we'd love to see you back on a team here)
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 06:42
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Dean, that is an interesting story about your experience when younger, the first time I have seen this. My stepson is severely dyslexic, and my son has Asperger's Syndrome with associated difficulties. The former, like you, overcame his disability, and attained a degree at Cardiff University three years ago. The latter has very solid support at school, something which was not, of course, available when we were at school. You do not come across as a "grammar bully" to me. I enjoy such exchanges. Thanks re the get well message. I hope to be out of my plaster cast on Monday (this dependent upon the consultant), but will then have at least ten weeks in an air cast partially weight bearing and with lots of physio. One good thing to come out of all this is that work have agreed that I can work from home, and this is being sorted as I write. As for a team, probably best not to suggest Krautrock or Canterbury, methinks However, I have rediscovered my love for the site, and am happy to do as asked. Certainly, I am loving reviewing and new music again, and this is a very important part of my life. Even the missus understands this!------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 06:46
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That's about all the grammar schooling I can get my head around hahah...wuiiiih
I must applaud you though, Dean you have a curious way of turning even the dreariest of subjects interesting....to some extent that is;) Reminds me of seventh grade Danish with missus HZ, perhaps our fave teacher at the time (bar her grammar lessons). ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 06:53
I'm a tad puzzled by my favorite terminally fluffy hippy - what unreasonable behavior are you guilty of? It was me who told the Fried Baldy/Gene hybrid to f*ck off. Notwithstanding my deeply held sincerity and precisely zero contrition, I expect to do the time that fits the crime as there is no excuse for such personal insults. We are both ex Admins and know such perceived largesse can only damage the site. If your sponsorship of Atlantis for PR is appeasement, then who exactly is this supposed to placate? (not really your style) or are you acting under the guise of expediency to right a 'report buttoned' wrong? -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 07:04
The person in need of placation is myself - the guilt is in derailing this thread, the unreasonable behaviour is in rising to the bait inherent in the OP that it is policy and politicking that determines band addition. The appeasement is for ignoring the substance of this thread over its perceived tone. I see no reason why Atlantis should not be here in prog Related and while I tire of explaining the "rules" each time one of these kinds of threads appears (and doubly so when the OP is a long-standing collaborator here), there are times when it is better to be proactive than reactive. I really don't care if people report me or not, and since I have never used the button myself I would never assume that they have either. ..and it's terminally fluffy dark hippy. ------------- What? |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 07:22
Interestingly, I had a high school history teacher whose grading system went beyond the customary "A" (outstanding) through "F" (fail), and went all the way to "K" (klunk). The only way you could get a K was if you got every question on the exam wrong, and misspelled your name as well. I remember a friend of mine actually did misspell his name on an exam, and in fact lost points for it. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |