Consistency on band name articles
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Topic: Consistency on band name articles
Posted By: aapatsos
Subject: Consistency on band name articles
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 12:28
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Band's whose name is in English appear on PA alphabetically, excluding the article, if there is one. Example given: The Gathering are added as Gathering, The so their name appears under letter "G" (artists also appear as LAST NAME, FIRST NAME e.g. Vai, Steve can be found under "V") Now, there is a mix with band names with articles in other languages: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=404" rel="nofollow - MASCHERA DI CERA, LA but http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2027" rel="nofollow - LA ROSSA We need to have some consistency on this - I suggest we either revert everything to "The....." and "La...." or apply the "article comes last" rule to all artists. In my view, option 1 is easier as it allows easier tracking of artists. Any thoughts welcome  |
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 13:10
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If the artists we have beginning with "The" were all put under 'T', with the definite article entered first, the page would probably be unmanageably long. Similarly (to a lesser extent) artists beginning with 'A' - all but a couple of whom ( http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7053" rel="nofollow - - A HEADFULL OF MONSTERS , are filed with the indefinite article entered last. The article entered last, as it (mostly) is now, seems to make more sense to me.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 15:33
Thanks, moved LA ROSSA under R. Obviously, articles should come last. I'll move other bands whose names begin with LA or L' to their proper places. Please report such cases in this thread http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82726&PN=1" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82726&PN=1 , because there are other articles (like I, IL, LE, AZ etc) in different languages.
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aapatsos wrote:Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 15:51
Moved bands whose names begin with LA or L', but I don't know would this be right to these ones (so I've left them under L):
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:09
We need some language experts on the matter me thinks  Shall we better keep this discussion here to give them more visibility? what about this http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4619" rel="nofollow - LE GRAND NEBULEUX ? |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:19
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^ Already moved to G. No need to be an expert to know that LE is an article in French. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:32
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ok I will report all the rest to the errors thread, you convinced me
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:33
Formal logic can't help in these cases:
LES is usually an article, but these bands are from non-French speaking countries, so I'd rather leave them under L. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:35
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And please don't forget Het Pandorra Ensemble, for 'het' is an article in Dutch. ------------- 
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 17:07
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^ Thanks, moved under P. Sooner or later with the help of PA members from different countries I'll become a polyglot.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 12:09
Actually, fhey do speak French in Switzerland. It''s one of the official languages (besides German, Romansh and Italian). And, BTW, we don't have this problem in Polish (or any Slavic language, I think) fortunately! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 19:48
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^ Bartek, I still doubt LES HALMAS should be moved to H.
I looked at track lists of their albums - there are no French titles at all. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 21:40
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According to google, Les Halmas translates to The Feat of All Saints, essentially All Saints Day I would gather. I imagine all the band members in the band speak French and thus les functions as an article. Whether their songs are in French or not, that is the name of their band and it should be filed under H.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 21:53
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^ Thanks, Andy. Moved to H.
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