Fave Sabbath with Ozzy Album
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Topic: Fave Sabbath with Ozzy Album
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Subject: Fave Sabbath with Ozzy Album
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 15:35
In honor of All Hallows Eve, it's Black Sabbath day at my house and time to worship the dark fathers of Doom Metal. Vote for your favourite Sabbath album with Ozzy and have a wicked Halloween  I wanted to put this in the proto lounge but couldn't create a poll there. Since Sabbath are listed in PA as prog related I figured I'd put it here and an admin can move it. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 15:40
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Black Sabbath - 1970
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 15:46
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for the title song and "Sabbra Cadabra" alone. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 16:07
| Volume IV, with the three before it and the one after it as runners up |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 16:11
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath! Though I don't know 13 yet.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 16:20
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IV - The ultimate underground sound ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 16:37
Apart from the first track 13 aint bad. But I am sure Ozzy is on autotune  ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Tuzvihar wrote:Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 17:04
 Feel like a traitor voting against War Pigs, but Volume IV wins by a daemon's nose  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 17:12
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Master Of Reality over Paranoid ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 17:33
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 17:39
I prefer the original version of this song titled "Walpurgis" - much better, much more sinister, satanic lyrics! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 18:14
This is great - thanks for posting...I never knew there were alternative lyrics! According to wiki the record label thought the words were "too satanic" and forced a rewrite which became War Pigs. Pretty funny when you consider it was the record label who put the inverted cross artwork on the 1st album to package them as evil without the bands knowledge. Guess Vertigo Records didn't really want to play with the dark side as much as they thought. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 18:33
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Master of Reality, then Sabbath Bloody Sabbath... Then Paranoid and Sabotage
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 18:51
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SBS > Sabotage > s/t > Paranoid > IV > MOR > TE > NSD ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 19:59
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I'm going to go with the debut. I heard that Ozzy had a cold or something during his time in the studio for that album, and if that's so, it made him sound a lite more rough and weary, particularly during the acoustic part of "Sleeping Village". It really works for all of these songs. That album cover gave me nightmares the first time I saw it...such a well conceived image. |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 21:00
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Three flecks in the sky warn you you're gonna die Storm coming, you'd better hide from the atomic tide Flashes in the sky turns houses into sties Turns people into clay, radiation minds decay
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 00:46
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 01:23
That was my 1st Sabbath album and I used to spend hours staring at the cover...I used to tell friends the back cover with the peaceful scene of the guy dying in bed was the reality and the daemonic front cover represented what was going on in his mind  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 01:36
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Sabotage. My top Sabbath album of any era. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 01:40
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Probably 'Paranoid' or the debut.
'13' is an admirable attempt at recapturing 'classic' Sabbath and highly recommended to those that aren't familiar with it 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 04:01
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Sabotage followed closely by Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. My first two Sabbath vinyls ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 04:44
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How can I not vote for that breathtaking and infinitely raw debut? But in reality, I love all of their releases up until Sabotage. That untamed and slightly naive feel of the first always makes me return to it. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 04:50
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The debut earns my vote too, Dave! I love that mix of serated riffs and bluesy wailing! Some seem to dismiss it as an `embyronic' version of the band before they found their proper sound, but I think they captured perfection right from the start!
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Posted By: Quirky Turkey
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 06:10
| Sabotage - the proggiest of them all. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 06:27
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I'm sad to see no votes for their two final 70's albums, although they are slightly different I don't see any deterioration in quality. Some of Sabbath strongest songs are on those two. And here is one of their most breathtaking and progiest songs ever, that jazzy part at the end is flawless, simply perfect!  |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 09:01
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^I don't entirely write those two albums off, but when comparing them to what went before and do I get an intense underwhelming sensation. True, they did sport some marvellous stand alone tracks - and here I'm specifically thinking about Gypsy off Technical Ecstasy. The interplay between Ozzy and Tony at the end is just beautiful. Probably my fave Iommi solo ever. Still a long ways to the debut imho...
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 11:44
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Debut, then practically in order by release until Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 12:37
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The first 5 or 6 albums are all pretty good ,assuming you like Sabbath to begin with, but in the past I tended to play the first 2 the most and partcularly Paranoid.... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Zenbadger
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 19:49
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Fave Sabb album now that's a hard one! I dont think Sabbath ever made a bad album with Ozzy, each one great in its own rite! I probably listen to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath the most though so I guess that would be my Favourite. Although totally depends what mood i'm in. Oh and I thought 13 was great, totally caught me by suprise, wasn't expecting anything of that quality! Cant wait to see them again next month for the home coming gig! Also Snowblind gets my vote for the best Iommi solo.
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 23:57
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1. Master of Reality = Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here = the best 2. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath = Pink Floyd's Animals = not as famous as the classics but has excellent music throughout 3. Paranoid = Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon = the most famous and classic one 4. Ozzy Osbourne Blizzards of Ozz = Pink Floyd's Meddle = the first half is alright but the second half ... simply life-changing. 5. Black Sabbath = Pink Floyd's The Piper at the Gates of Dawn = widely liked, probably because it's the debut 6. Volume IV = Pink Floyd's The Wall = weak music. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 19:57
| I've just been getting into Black Sabbath lately. I got the first 3 albums plus Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. The first two have some of their best songs, but I kind of like the other two albums as a whole piece better. I also have the Reunion live album, which I'm listening to right now, and I must say just about all the songs sound so much better on this album. Much heavier and better played and so on. Perhaps the most notable one that I do like better on the studio version would be "Black Sabbath" itself. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 20:27
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Technical Ecstasy really does get a bum rap.....I enjoy it as much as any now ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 01:05
Indeed, it does. Very good album, IMO. Never Say Die, too. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 03:17
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Master or Bloody. The other 4 are a step below ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 03:18
Volume 4  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 04:51
| Volume IV - 1972 |
Posted By: pero2
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 09:41
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First 4 albums are equally good |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 23:37
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Probably shouod have voted for Vol 4 just for the awesome Wheels Of Confusion but mine is the vote for the under rated Technical Ecstasy. Fascinating numbers there, really this is a metal band (beginning with SBS striving for new teritories and getting knocked back. Bill Ward made a great ballad singer. Here he is more listenable than Ozzy who is best pitting his vocal against the giant structures Iommi creates. It's not perfect, She's Gone sags under it's soggy string arrangements but the variety of hard and heavy rock they created made for an interesting listen. Dirty Women and the riff at the peak of that number puts that on par with Wheels. Quality motifs are always welcome. Bill Ward shines on the drums at the end of that number as well. It's his ability to lift the Sabbath riffs and use his drums to change the rhythms that give Sabbath such an interesting foundation. Shame they couldn't get him in the studio for 13 and get the session guys to fill in like they've been doing for the past 30 years that Bill Ward has not been part of Sabbath. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 00:37
| Vol. 4 |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 12:38
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Love the atmosphere the first album sets.....sluggish raunchy blooze; none of their albums came close to laying down such stoner brilliance. The next two contain better "songs" but I don't put them on nearly as often as the first. Personally, I don't go beyond the first three with the Sabbs; I've heard them all over the years and like cuts from each, but none are as Sabbathy (good adjective) as the first. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 17:26
You hit the nail right on the head.
 ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 20:05
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Am I going Insane? I voted for Sabotage over all the others I love so much! This was difficult as I know all of them so well except for 13 which I have not heard. My very first 8-track (yes, I know) was Paranoid, still love it today.
To me, the first 4 sort of seem like they can be grouped together as their definitive phase. The next two, SBS and Tage seem to go more proggy. The last two was the beginning of the end, but they were not bad albums. I used to play "You Can't Change Me" from TE over and over, just so bombastic and heavy. ------------- 
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 20:46
| I'm not going to vote because I'm not familiar with all of these. I really like the first one and Paranoid though. Volume four is really good too. I haven't heard anything else I don't think. |
Posted By: I-Juca Pirama
Date Posted: December 19 2013 at 06:01
| For me it's Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Proggest and "happiest". |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 19 2013 at 14:13
| another for Sabotage here... |
Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: December 19 2013 at 19:24
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I hate to be cliché, but I have to give it to Paranoid. It's what got me into Black Sabbath in the first place. However, Sabotage houses my favorite song by the group with "Symptom Of The Universe".
Honestly, I could gush about Sabbath's first six albums all day, ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: December 19 2013 at 22:49
| I'm not going to vote because I haven't heard all of these albums. I do currently own the first four though. I don't understand why people seem to favor the first album over Paranoid. Paranoid is great. The first album is good too but doesn't have as many standout tracks imo. |
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: December 20 2013 at 02:40
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The debut and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. A dead heat so I can't vote!
------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!" "He's up the pub" |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 20 2013 at 04:25
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Posted By: Luis de Sousa
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 02:53
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I'll never forget the first time I heard Vol. 4, it was a musical epiphany like no other. I just felt: "this is it, this is what I've been looking for all along". Most prog records take time to grown on you, they never produced this kind of giant wave that engulfs you all of a sudden. Interesting how Bloody Sabbath is so low in this poll. They really tried to make a prog LP out of this one, Tony plays flute, Geezer tried synthesisers for the first time, Bill played bass and there's even Rick Wakeman in Sabra Cadabra. Only one vote on Never Say Die is also a bit surprising, since the B side is mostly fusion. But I imagine most folk do not know this particular record. In the end it's all good, if you're really into rock music. ------------- http://attheedgeoftime.blogspot.com/search/label/music" rel="nofollow - Music musings | http://www.last.fm/user/Luis_de_Sousa" rel="nofollow - Last.fm profile |
Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 03:23
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Master Of Reality
------------- "Du gehst zu Frauen? Vergiss die Peitsche nicht!" |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 16:02
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The 2 weakest albums of the 1970-75 period are winning. What else would you expect at PE ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 16:58
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So dr prog, are you always this cheerful? Seems no matter the subject, you always find something to bitch about. I don't think I have ever witnessed you posting without either looking down your nose or belittleling other people's taste in music.
You must be a sheer delight to shoot the breeze with  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: February 05 2014 at 16:14
I just don't get how master and bloody are the last 2 in the first 5 albums 😜 My fave 2 Sab albums. They have the most strong compositions of all Sab albums. Same with most bands in here. All the wrong albums get the high ratings and more smartly composed albums get the low ratings. The simply thought out melodies should take back seat to a bit of complex playing which has 1/100th of the staying power :) ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: KonradKupiec
Date Posted: February 06 2014 at 15:22
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
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Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: February 13 2014 at 14:52
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The first album, for Warning alone: Now the first day that I met ya I was looking in the sky When the sun turned all a blur and the thunderclouds rolled by The sea began to shiver and the wind began to moan It must've been a sign for me to leave you well alone I was born without you, baby but my feelings were a little bit too strong |
Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 18:33
| Extremely difficult choice to make.....Today i go with Sabotage.Who knows what i would have went with yesterday or tomorrow? |
Posted By: Jzrk
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 23:40
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I like them all so much and can go back and forth but I think the first album is so loose and jams with such heavy Nlues abandon I will take it it as número uno.
Tonys Guitar on Volume 4 has such a unique sound that it was my fav for a long time |
Posted By: Prog 74
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 13:22
| Volume 4. Their first 6 albums are all excellent, but Vol 4 has always been my favorite. Wheels of Confusion/The Straightener is just amazing. |
Posted By: Whathefoxtrot
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 20:36
| This may be controversial, but I prefer Ozzy's solo career to anything he's done Sabbath related. Randy Rhodes and Ozzy are pretty synonymous. Haven't had the chance to listen to "13" yet, but hear good things. Paranoid gets my vote, but since I'm a forum newbie, I guess I can't vote? :( |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 13 2015 at 03:34
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who couldn't live with out OZZY, the PARNIOD album will always have my vote... ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: March 13 2015 at 04:31
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The debut... ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: March 13 2015 at 09:40
| I'll have to say '13', perfect all the way through. |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: March 14 2015 at 08:05
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I love all of them but prefer Sabotage ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: March 14 2015 at 08:51
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There was so much choice! I think "13" was far better than anyone could of expected from them. Even though the band associate it with lots of emotional pain and unhappiness, I really, really love the "Never Say Die" album. "Over To You" basically did the whole decade of 80's metal but forgot to include the widdly guitar solos. I think their debut tails off at the end, "Paranoid" sags in the middle and "Master of Reality" is more blues based so far. However it was "Vol. 4" I voted for as it's stuck with me since getting into them in the early 90's. I even love "The Writ" and think that should be included on as many compilations as "Spiral Architect". And I love "Sabotage" and "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath". The only misfire the Ozzy Sabbath's made was "Technical Ecstasy" (imo). But I went for "Vol. 4". Mainly for "Supernaut"'s riff accompanying me getting out of bed and getting dressed for many years! (Sorry about that image this might give you)
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 14 2015 at 10:37
| The first six albums are an incredible run of form. I chose Paranoid, but it could have been any of them on a different day. |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: March 15 2015 at 00:12
| Paranoid. |
Posted By: Littlecarrots
Date Posted: March 15 2015 at 00:27
| Paranoid, though Vol. 4, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and 13 all get really really close! The first six and 13 are all really great and solid. |
Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: March 15 2015 at 15:09
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Masters Of Reality, all day, everyday. ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 15 2015 at 16:14
hah.. now this hard  Even for a PA's poll...going with the brunette on this one... Sabotage!!!! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 15 2015 at 19:51
This. Followed by the debut, Sabotage and Paranoid ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: March 15 2015 at 20:31
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wow, surprised to see so many who like Sabotage here, but thats my favorite too... |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: March 17 2015 at 06:25
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Paranoid
------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 17 2015 at 18:16
even on a prog forum.. you can still find those with good tastes ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |