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Topic: The Grand Silent System / Crossover Prog / AUPosted By: amapofthepiano
Subject: The Grand Silent System / Crossover Prog / AU
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 03:23
Ok, so i attempted to make a http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93562&PN=3" rel="nofollow - suggestion as an off-topic because i couldn't make myself to write something adequate about this great band, but i think i should follow the rules after all.
The official information about the band:
The Australian rock sextet Grand Silent System was formed in 1999 (and disbanded in 2006) in the Latrobe Valley area.
Consisting of singer/percussionist Sean Albers, guitarist Daniel Calabro, keyboard player Ben Rejmer, bass player Craig Moren, drummer Ben Hellmig, and flautist Karen Heath (who also plays saxophone and clarinet), the eclectic act blended elements of classical, jazz, funk, rock, and world music to create a unique sound. The fledgling act soon relocated to Melbourne, developing a following for their live performances which bordered on experimental and shared a kinship with progressive rock acts from the '70s. Their initial release, an EP entitled They Who Built, was well-received in their homeland by both critics and fans, with the track "Robotics" garnering airplay (the song even attracted attention from Canadian radio).
The band released a couple of EPs:
One (2000)
They Who Build (2001)
And two full-lengh albums:
Gift or a weapon (2002)
Everyone lies alone (2004)
And they all are totally amazing.
These guys are remarkable because their sound is very original and rare and they are combining so mant things that are hardly imagined together in an absolutely beautiful way. Tricky time signatures together with beauiful melodies and vocals that at first slightly reminded me of Maynard from Tool (in Stint the Obey, e.g.) - however, this feeling disappeared pretty fast as listened to TGSS more.
One of the main things that makes their sound so unique is the use of wind intruments such as clarinet, flute and saxophone. What is especially interesting here is their interaction with other components of arrangements. I really love how they work together with the guitars.
https://myspace.com/thegrandsilentsystem/music/songs" rel="nofollow - https://myspace.com/thegrandsilentsystem/music/songs -- main source to check out the music without using torrens (although not sure if there are any TGSS albums on torrents)
https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/everyone-lies-alone/id288285743" rel="nofollow - https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/everyone-lies-alone/id288285743 -- amazing album for sale
The official site doesn't work http://www.thegrandsilentsystem.com
The only official video that i ever came across is below. I listen to them for seven years already and still don't know much about them apart from the fact that they will never get back together :(
Hope i didn't miss anything.
------------- start of something beautiful www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7504 https://www.facebook.com/iamthemorningpage
Replies: Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 05:20
Hmmm...perked my interest. I will see what else I can find on them...
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 06:16
A few more tubes:
Edit: If you are logged into facebook (or subscribe to Deezer anyway), you can listen to the first EP ('1') in full here: http://www.deezer.com/en/album/179614" rel="nofollow - http://www.deezer.com/en/album/179614
It's also on Spotify...If you have it available in your country.
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 06:57
" The Grand Silent System was conceived in early 1999 in Latrobe Valley. With a wide range of musical influences from Classical, Jazz, Orchestral, Electronica, World Music, Funk and Progressive Rock they bring an unique style to the Australian music scene. The Grand Silent System consist of six key members, bringing a wide array of instruments into play. These includes vocals, guitar, keyboards / samples, clarinet, flute, saxophone, bass and percussion. Such a broad range of textures, coupled with intricate compositions. Live perfomance has always been a major factor in the success of The Grand Silent System. Extreme dynamics make shows very powerful and crowds are often awe-struck by the brut power of the live sound. Word has spread quickly about one of the best live acts the local music scene here in Melbourne has to offer and rightfully so, as this sextet from Latrobe Valley stretches and burst every genre bubble know to man!" - Tim Cashmere, Undercover
" The Grand Silent System are one of the freshest bands to hit the local scene in a while, making a name for themselfs with their blistering, eclectic live shows." - David Richardson, Inpress
Posted By: amapofthepiano
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 07:42
yam yam wrote:
Edit: If you are logged into facebook (or subscribe to Deezer anyway), you can listen to the first EP ('1') in full here: http://www.deezer.com/en/album/179614" rel="nofollow - http://www.deezer.com/en/album/179614
Yay! Thank you! Although i should say that this first EP sounds so different from everything they played after that. Their latest releases (especially LPs) are much more "gentle" as i see it. In terms of musical material and sound too.
------------- start of something beautiful www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7504 https://www.facebook.com/iamthemorningpage
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 09:07
Well, they absolutely belong on the site...And as you suggest in the topic heading, Crossover Prog is where they would best fit. We just need to wait either for a member of the team to drop by and pick it up directly, or someone who can access the Collaborator Zone to act as a messenger for us, & drop a note in the team thread.
However - the evaluation may take a little while, since the head of the team, http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23504" rel="nofollow - Marty McFly , posted yesterday in the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=94718&PID=4881426#4881426" rel="nofollow - Mike Kershaw thread that the team were temporarily down to just three (from an original five), looking for fresh blood, and that the clearing and rejecting of bands wasn't really happening to any great extent at the moment. Patience may therefore be needed...
Thanks very much for an excellent suggestion, and to Svetonio for the two additional tubes.
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 13:01
That's definitely a great find
Those guys sound really different from anything I've heard before. Post-rockish indie music with nice jazzy influences (which is quite rare and unusual for that kind of music), a bit faster and more energetic than Mogwai but wa-ay more tranquil than The Mars Volta. Some keyboard parts that bring back neo-prog to my mind. At moments it sounds a bit like Steven Wilson's 'Insurgentes', but a bit less moody overall and with cleaner production. The music interwines mellow and beautiful flute soundscapes, progressive rock influences, grungey sounds of guitar wall noise, and it's definitely a worthwile music to check out.
All in all, it's another great band from Australia, must be interesting for fans of obscure post-progressive bands, such as A Lonely Crowd or Secret Machines.
------------- This night wounds time.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 15:01
yam yam wrote:
Well, they absolutely belong on the site...And as you suggest in the topic heading, Crossover Prog is where they would best fit. We just need to wait either for a member of the team to drop by and pick it up directly, or someone who can access the Collaborator Zone to act as a messenger for us, & drop a note in the team thread.
However - the evaluation may take a little while, since the head of the team, http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23504" rel="nofollow - Marty McFly , posted yesterday in the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=94718&PID=4881426#4881426" rel="nofollow - Mike Kershaw thread that the team were temporarily down to just three (from an original five), looking for fresh blood, and that the clearing and rejecting of bands wasn't really happening to any great extent at the moment. Patience may therefore be needed...
Thanks very much for an excellent suggestion, and to Svetonio for the two additional tubes.
I'd be happy to pass it on to the crossover team......DONE!
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: October 28 2013 at 17:33
Second Life Syndrome wrote:
I'd be happy to pass it on to the crossover team......DONE!
Good man!
Posted By: amapofthepiano
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 02:37
Second Life Syndrome wrote:
I'd be happy to pass it on to the crossover team......DONE!
Awesome! Thank you! Now i feel like i've done something useful, haha
------------- start of something beautiful www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7504 https://www.facebook.com/iamthemorningpage
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 19:52
How about iamthemorning isn't that something useful.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 20:57
proggman wrote:
How about iamthemorning isn't that something useful.
True. I can't get enough of "~".
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 21:22
Yes that album has no end it just begins. Also I like your reviews and also are you the prog mind? I like that facebook page.I saw an iamthemorning video there and there was someone that commented there that called Marjana a pixie.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 23:09
proggman wrote:
Yes that album has no end it just begins. Also I like your reviews and also are you the prog mind? I like that facebook page.I saw an iamthemorning video there and there was someone that commented there that called Marjana a pixie.
Yep, I run The PROG Mind, for better or worse. Yeah, I believe that was Michael. He's a bit strange. haha I'm actually letting him post his review of a prog rock opera right now. Track by track, though. He's nervous about it. Oh well. Oh, and to clarify, I don't think of myself as "the prog mind", the term actually refers to the collective mind/intelligence/philosophies/etc. of the prog community. Most people don't get that, though.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 23:41
Thanks for the information, well about the pixie comment we'll see what Marjana thinks about it if she answers.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: amapofthepiano
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 01:57
Second Life Syndrome wrote:
Yep, I run The PROG Mind, for better or worse.
For better of course! You are spreading the word about good music, and i can say that prog bands usually need this very, very much. Personally i was happy to see Rishloo on this page. These guys need some help.
Yeah and thank you for amazing IATM review. (:
proggman wrote:
I saw an iamthemorning video there and there was someone that commented there that called Marjana a pixie.
I feel perfectly fine about being a pixie, i don't think that's a bad word. I googled and they seem nice, haha (:
Anyhow, as long as the author didn't mean anything bad, I'm ok. It is important to get used to people writing different stuff. Even here, i saw this two stars review of ~ and yeah that was tough, but that's just a single man's opinion, nothing more.
p.s. and looking at "Second Life Syndrome" i can't help saying - i am going to the airport to meet Riverside in several hours! yay!
------------- start of something beautiful www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7504 https://www.facebook.com/iamthemorningpage
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 04:26
The Grand Silent System has now been added to the Crossover team chart on progfreak.com, and you can follow the evaluation here: http://progfreak.com/The-Grand-Silent-System-157790.html?path=pa/recent" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/The-Grand-Silent-System-157790.html?path=pa/recent .
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 13:18
amapofthepiano wrote:
proggman wrote:
I saw an iamthemorning video there and there was someone that commented there that called Marjana a pixie.
I feel perfectly fine about being a pixie, i don't think that's a bad word. I googled and they seem nice, haha (:
Anyhow, as long as the author didn't mean anything bad, I'm ok. It is important to get used to people writing different stuff.
I am sure the commenter didn't mean anything bad. I just wanna let you know that pixie can also mean this
but if you don't have any problems with this, then no damage has been done.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 14:44
amapofthepiano wrote:
Second Life Syndrome wrote:
Yep, I run The PROG Mind, for better or worse.
For better of course! You are spreading the word about good music, and i can say that prog bands usually need this very, very much. Personally i was happy to see Rishloo on this page. These guys need some help.
Yeah and thank you for amazing IATM review. (:
proggman wrote:
I saw an iamthemorning video there and there was someone that commented there that called Marjana a pixie.
I feel perfectly fine about being a pixie, i don't think that's a bad word. I googled and they seem nice, haha (:
Anyhow, as long as the author didn't mean anything bad, I'm ok. It is important to get used to people writing different stuff. Even here, i saw this two stars review of ~ and yeah that was tough, but that's just a single man's opinion, nothing more.
p.s. and looking at "Second Life Syndrome" i can't help saying - i am going to the airport to meet Riverside in several hours! yay!
I have a feeling he called you a pixie because he finds you attractive. He loves fantasy/sci-fi, so....Also, I'm really jealous about meeting Riverside. I did get to see them play in Chicago this year. They were amazing. Lastly, thanks for the encouragement about my page. I'm glad to see people noticing it.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 19:37
Hey I just wanted to say that I liked your reviews of http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42824" rel="nofollow - and http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=450" rel="nofollow - Magenta - - - -
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 22:54
Arjen wasn't very pleased with some of my comments about his story/grammar. We agreed to disagree. As for Christina, she may sound similar, but they have different styles, I think. I like Marjana's voice better. Actually, she's in my top 3 favorites female singers.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 23:40
I understand Arjen I told him that I liked the album. As for Christina and Marjana, well I am not a vocalist so I don't know much about styles I just listen to what I like and I definitely like both Magenta and iamthemorning. I also like Marjana's vocals a lot, she's one of the best. I do wonder what Marjana thinks of Christina and Magenta. So what other female vocalists do you have in your top 3?
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 05:19
I like Anna Bender of Introitus, and also Simone Simons of Epica.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 20:50
Yes Anna Jobs Bender is a fantastic vocalist. I am happy to hear you like http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5788" rel="nofollow - Introitus they're from Sweden the same country that I am from. Actually Introitus is gonna play on Sweden Prog Fest 2013 but I can't go because I don't have any money.
Well Simone Simons of Epica is also great. Some of my favorite female
vocalists in no specific order are Valerie Gracious from Phideaux, Tori
Amos, Anneke van Giersbergen former The Gathering and Ayreon, Christina
Booth from Magenta, Barbara Gaskin from Spirogyra, Heather Findlay
former Mostly Autumn and Ayreon, Tarja Turunen former Nightwish, Floor
Jansen from After Forever, Nightwish and Ayreon, Annie Haslam from
Renaissance, Sylvia Skjellestad from White Willow, Stella Vander from
Magma, Kate Bush and Marjana Syomkina from iamthemorning.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 22:53
I also like the singers from Frequency Drift and IOEarth, but both of them have left their respective bands. So, I hope I like the new singers. I also love the voice of Dilenya Mar from Beyond the Bridge. Yep, Introitus is actually in my top 5 favorite bands. Their music just speaks to me.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 01 2013 at 10:46
I am new to Frequency Drift but I like what I've heard so far. I haven't heard
IOEarth and Beyond the Bridge but I'll check them out soon. Yes it's great to hear music that you feel like it's made just for you. I have some bands and artists that I feel like that with as well. Also http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=10853" rel="nofollow - - from the - - Christina Booth from Magenta and also Sally Oldfield and Heather Findlay. So I guess I am not the only one to make that comparison.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 02:38
I can tell you from personal (live) experience that the new singer for IOEarth is most excellent! (And exquisitely beautiful!)
------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 21:10
infocat wrote:
I can tell you from personal (live) experience that the new singer for IOEarth is most excellent! (And exquisitely beautiful!)
Good to hear! I was guessing as much, as she took over at a moment's notice.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 22:10
Second Life Syndrome wrote:
infocat wrote:
I can tell you from personal (live) experience that the new singer for IOEarth is most excellent! (And exquisitely beautiful!)
Good to hear! I was guessing as much, as she took over at a moment's notice.
You see nothing to worry about.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 21:26
Luckily, iamthemorning, Frequency Drift, IOEarth, and Introitus are all releasing new albums in 2014!
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: amapofthepiano
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 05:39
We wanted so much to release it in 2013 already. :(
------------- start of something beautiful www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7504 https://www.facebook.com/iamthemorningpage
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 10:33
Yes I know you wanted to release it this year, but now you have more time to make it even better.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 14:56
amapofthepiano wrote:
We wanted so much to release it in 2013 already. :(
2014 is even better---less crowded . Either way, you will stand out from the rest because you guys are just so darn unique!
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 20:15
I don't know if 2014 is less crowded, because I know of at least a few bands and artists that is coming up with new albums already early next year. Remember there is also always surprises that comes from out of nowhere.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 22:03
Yes, I was just tallying them all, and I realized that 2014 will be very busy. The more the merrier!
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: amapofthepiano
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 04:30
Mariusz from Riverside is going to the studio in November to work on the new Lunatic Soul. This is all i can think about now and i am happy we'll have a such a great company in 2014 :)
Also Anathema and Tool (!) but after all these years i almost don't believe anything they say about releasing anything new.
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Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 18:16
amapofthepiano wrote:
Mariusz from Riverside is going to the studio in November to work on the new Lunatic Soul. This is all i can think about now and i am happy we'll have a such a great company in 2014 :)
Also Anathema and Tool (!) but after all these years i almost don't believe anything they say about releasing anything new.
Yes, Lunatic Soul is my #1 most anticipated album next year. The other three albums are simply masterful, in my opinion. I can't wait!
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 20:19
Yes I also like Lunatic Soul, let's hope that Mariusz Duda sings on the new album. Anathema is always great,
Daniel Cavanagh is a great songwriter. Tool on the other hand I don't
trust, they have to give me a name and date on the album for me to believe it. Some bands and artists albums that I look forward to next year are,Transatlantic, IQ, Phideaux, Discipline, Matthew Parmenter,and of course iamthemorning.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
Posted By: kev rowland
Date Posted: February 20 2014 at 01:25
Guys. I have tried contacting TGSS through their Facebook page, but haven't had a response to either of the emails and no-one has posted on it since November last year so it doesn't seem very active. I've been looking at various biographies on the web, and there really seem to be just two versions around - one from 2004 and the even smaller one on their MySpace page. Has anyone got any contact details that actually work, or know enough about them to volunteer to write one for me?
They were actually cleared four months ago (to say we are behind on adding artists is an understatement but we're making progress) so if anyone can help that would be appreciated. I don't really want to just throw up an outdated small version just to get them onto the site, but if we don't have something soon that's all I can do.
Looks to me like Jason may know enough.. (hint)....
------------- All five volumes of The Progressive Underground now available https://www.amazon.com/Kev-Rowland/e/B07RJVRB2X
Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: February 20 2014 at 14:33
Honestly, I have no idea. I can't think of any way to contact them, either. They are on a break, though.
------------- theprogmind.com
Posted By: amapofthepiano
Date Posted: February 20 2014 at 15:59
They have been on a break for a long time and they are not planning to come back, sadly. I know that you can get in touch with their guitar player on Facebook, but I suspect that he is already fed up with people asking him about tgss. I didn't even see him mentioning this project anywhere... maybe it would be ok to go with the short biography they use on official resources? Anyhow, here's his page: https://www.facebook.com/dailymelodies?ref=ts&fref=ts" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/dailymelodies
------------- start of something beautiful www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7504 https://www.facebook.com/iamthemorningpage
Posted By: kev rowland
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 14:32
amapofthepiano wrote:
They have been on a break for a long time and they are not planning to come back, sadly. I know that you can get in touch with their guitar player on Facebook, but I suspect that he is already fed up with people asking him about tgss. I didn't even see him mentioning this project anywhere... maybe it would be ok to go with the short biography they use on official resources? Anyhow, here's his page: https://www.facebook.com/dailymelodies?ref=ts&fref=ts" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/dailymelodies
The band has now been added to the site - but I will contact him to see if we can get an improved bio. Thanks for this
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 17:19
^Only one out of two albums was added. 'Everyone Lies Alone' (2004) is omitted.
------------- This night wounds time.
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 23:30
^ Don't forget, there is nothing to stop you adding the missing album yourself... Just go to http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8737," rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8737, click the http://www.progarchives.com/submittitle.asp?band_id=8737" rel="nofollow - link, log in again - and you're away!
Even the mighty discogs only lists two releases for these guys though: http://www.discogs.com/artist/805263-Grand-Silent-System-The" rel="nofollow - http://www.discogs.com/artist/805263-Grand-Silent-System-The .
There was also an earlier EP - simply titled '1' - which also needs to be added - (see Marjana's o.p.)
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 02:47
^ It says '500 - Internal server error' when I'm trying to add it
------------- This night wounds time.
Posted By: sadoctopus
Date Posted: March 12 2014 at 07:36
Oh wow i've been searching everywhere for this band and suddenly found this topic. Thank you amapofthepiano! This site now seems to be the only reliable source of information where you can find everything in one place. I've also checked out iamthemorning and i can clearly say that this is going to be one of my favorites. You've got a wonderful taste!