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Topic: pink floyd and rolling stones
Posted By: ESHWOR KC
Subject: pink floyd and rolling stones
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 05:02
which one is the greatest rock band ever? has pink floyd achieved more than the rolling stones. Which is the greatest please comment.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 05:09
Wow. Welcome to PA but totally the wrong section for this question.

Pink Floyd.


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 05:39
Led Zeppelin Tongue

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 06:26
Originally posted by ESHWOR KC ESHWOR KC wrote:

which one is the greatest rock band ever? has pink floyd achieved more than the rolling stones. Which is the greatest please comment.
It depends how you define greatness and achievement - in terms of sales or something else?


Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 08:56
Originally posted by ESHWOR KC ESHWOR KC wrote:

which one is the greatest rock band ever? has pink floyd achieved more than the rolling stones. Which is the greatest please comment.
Good question.










EDIT: Anyway, moved into "General Music Discussions".


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 09:31
Both have sold albums by the lorry load, but to be frank I never liked the Stones at all. There's are probably about four stones tunes that I can tolerate, and even they get annoying due to crap vocals.

Floyd for me all the way..

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 09:59
I have been a PF fan since I was 12 or 13, but I never had had much liking for the Stones.

Let's put it this way: Pink Floyd rocks, the Stones just roll.

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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 10:03
Pink Floyd were the best albums band in the 60s & 70s.
Rolling Stones were the best singles band in the 60s & 70s.
Pink Floyd had the best live shows.




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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 10:43
Definitely Pink Floyd.
But here is a beautiful Rolling Stones song...




Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 12:23
Still haven't bought my first Rolling Stones record.
Still haven't heard a full Rolling Stones records.

Pink Floyd is the greatest rock band i've heard and i doubt the Stones can beat that sound (even the Mighty Zeppelin can't).

But again, it's all a matter of taste.

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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 14:34
As far as the influence of either goes, I'd say Pink Floyd. I flat out don't like Rolling Stones, and I like Pink Floyd moderately.

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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 14:45
I like 'em both but I've listened to Floyd more. Although I listen to the Stones more nowadays. Also I wouldn't call either the greatest. I wouldn't really call any band the greatest but if I was forced to I would say "The Beatles", just because there are enough people who really believe that to do the arguing for me so it saves me the effort of arguing the point one way or the other.


Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 15:04
Why not both?

Also:



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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 15:16
One of the most annoying rock bands versus the "atmosphere" masters.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 18:18
Interesting question since I don;t consider Floyd a 'rock band' ......while the Rolling Stones certainly are.
But for me that would prolly be Led Zep.


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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 13:31
I'm hesitant to use the label "greatest" for anything.


Posted By: JamesYoungField
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 15:26
I'm not really familiar with the Rollers except for some of their hits, but I'm very familiar with Pink Floyd. And I think Floyd's music has more depth to it. However I wouldn't play any of their songs at a party, but the Rolling Stones can often fit in those situations.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 15:46
I'm a Floyd guy for sure. No question. Also, it's hard to measure or compare the success of these 2 bands because both have done so well on so many levels, especially financially.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 02:49
Stones v Beatles
Queen v Pink Floyd
Genesis v Yes
Led Zep v Black Sabbath

those match ups make more sense to me

There are Stones tracks I really like. Ruby Tuesday tends to be overlooked but that is as good as any Beatles songs. Paint It Black is another I like.
Jagger/ Richards wrote The First Cut Is The Deepest which was the first solo hit for PP Arnold who of course had the prog connection with The Nice who started as her backing band.



Posted By: ArturdeLara
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 04:54
Pink Floyd. No need to discuss that Stern Smile

Stones = mainstream rock garbage
Floyd = beautiful, authentic, innovative, mind-blowing MUSIC


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 05:27
^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.

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Posted By: ArturdeLara
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 06:17
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.

I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 06:23
Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.

I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...

A bit unfair to call the Stones garbage.


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Posted By: ArturdeLara
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 06:33
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.

I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...

A bit unfair to call the Stones garbage.

Well, it depends on your musical taste. I personally can't stand most of the songs i know from them. I know they had an earlier psychedelic/baroque phase and I've listened to Their Satanic Majesties Request which is a nice and quite underrated album. I've also listened to some really good songs from Between the Buttons. But after that earlier phase, they just became uninteresting and shallow IMO. The use of the word "garbage" was obviously an exaggeration though Smile


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 06:54
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jagger/ Richards wrote The First Cut Is The Deepest
No they didn't, it was Cat Stevens.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 14:57
Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.

I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...
 
No.....they are 'mainstream' for the same reason; they were both embraced by the public at at large, radio, etc.,  which made their music 'mainstream'.
The fact that you like Floyd better is a personal choice, nothing more.
 
The original poster said 'rock band' in his first post btw and while they both fall under that broad category they are like apples and oranges as far as the styles involved. To dismiss the Stones as 'mainstream garbage' shows a lack of understanding about the whole music scene , it's origins, and it's various paths.
 


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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 16:33
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.


I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...

 

No.....they are 'mainstream' for the same reason; they were both embraced by the public at at large, radio, etc.,  which made their music 'mainstream'.

The fact that you like Floyd better is a personal choice, nothing more.

 

The original poster said 'rock band' in his first post btw and while they both fall under that broad category they are like apples and oranges as far as the styles involved. To dismiss the Stones as 'mainstream garbage' shows a lack of understanding about the whole music scene , it's origins, and it's various paths.

 


How could I ever disagree with this statement. Well done. Your answer is what I shall adopt in regards To this thread. :)
Apples and oranges. I could never compare the 2, but I can say which I do prefer sound wise difinitively. ;)

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 00:31
Originally posted by ESHWOR KC ESHWOR KC wrote:

which one is the greatest rock band ever? has pink floyd achieved more than the rolling stones. Which is the greatest please comment.

Music fans love them both for different reasons...both have had massive global success and influnced thousands of musicians...both have entertained millions of concert goers...I have to give my vote for the Stones though for the fact of the sheer weight of their musical history...many people have never heard "Comfortably Numb" but everyone has heard "Satisfaction"...60's drug busts...Sympathy for the Devil...Altamont...Mick and Keith...dozens of albums...Pink Floyd are huge but they can't compete with the Stones 50+ year legacy.


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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 01:15
Anyway where has OPer gone? Tongue

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 12:19
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jagger/ Richards wrote The First Cut Is The Deepest
No they didn't, it was Cat Stevens.

thanks 

me confused! and the source of my confusion (as taken from Wikipedia)

After several years touring the United States with the Revue, she came to  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England" rel="nofollow - England  in 1966 when the Revue toured there in support of  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones" rel="nofollow - The Rolling Stones . Impressed by her powerful and soulful voice,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Jagger" rel="nofollow - Mick Jagger  convinced Stones  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management" rel="nofollow - manager   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Loog_Oldham" rel="nofollow - Andrew Loog Oldham  to sign Arnold to a  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recording_contract" rel="nofollow - recording contract  with his newly founded  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immediate_Records" rel="nofollow - Immediate Records   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_label" rel="nofollow - record label . Arnold quit the Turner band to remain in  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London" rel="nofollow - London  and establish a solo career.


Posted By: ProgPassion
Date Posted: July 25 2014 at 15:48
Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Pink Floyd. No need to discuss that Stern Smile

Stones = mainstream rock garbage
Floyd = beautiful, authentic, innovative, mind-blowing MUSIC

'mainstream rock garbage'

That is the most hilarious thing I've seen all day. 


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 08:15
The Stones are much greater band than Pink Floyd imo.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 09:43
The Stones have achieved greater commercial success, that doesn't mean they made better music it only means they were better at making money...

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 09:49
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

The Stones have achieved greater commercial success, that doesn't mean they made better music it only means they were better at making money...


The Stones' catalogue is way better than PF musicaly too imo.


Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 11:02
My personal opinion only:

The Stones came up with a few interesting songs way back in the 60s, but afterwards they quickly evolved into a commercial rock  group, distinguished by their rudimentary (even by the rock standards) musicianship and remarkable audacity to recycle the same trite melody lines from one platinum album to another. 

Pink Floyd is not among my favorite bands; I do like The Dark Side, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, and one or two tracks from other albums, and that's about it. I'm not into the Syd Barrett era at all ..

.. but:

1. Roger Waters as a poet and philosopher has no peers in the pop/rock culture. It's kind of handy to have a guy like him as the band lyricist. 

2. IMO, Pink Floyd were the first band to use the synthetic sound for expressing intellectually complex and esthetically advanced musical ideas. Before them, the synthetic sound had largely belonged to the category of "electronic experimentation" and was only sporadically thrown in by those bands who wanted to sound 'psychedelic" without conveying any specific message.  

3. The audio-visual multidimensional experience is, again, something that Pink Floyd made into an art form in its own right. 

Bottom Line: Rolling Stones should be rated in the "most prolific bands" category (but then again, the James Last Orchestra may beat them with the musical equivalent of the 2014 Cup Germany-Brazil score). 


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 11:19
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

The Stones have achieved greater commercial success, that doesn't mean they made better music it only means they were better at making money...


The Stones' catalogue is way better than PF musicaly too imo.
 
The Stones do have more  albums in their catalogue than Floyd and it can be argued that their best albums might outweigh Floyd's best  in number but their songs and albums on an individual basis aren't better in quality per se imho.
Let It Bleed or Exiles isn't 'better' than DSOTM or WYWH...they are all excellent in their own way.
 
 


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 11:23
The Beatles. Next question.

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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 11:36
I think it all depends on:

1. What style of music you're looking for .

2. Who you think executed their intentions better.

Honestly, a world without either would be a very boring musical world indeed. Pink Floyd helped me get into prog in the first place, while the Rolling Stones have been part of my childhood.  I remember listening to AOL Radio at the time and was willing to miss the climax of Yes' "Close To The Edge" just so I could hear "2000 Man".

Also, The Rolling Stones "mainstream garbage"? Really?


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 13:04
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

The Beatles. Next question.
 
Now there's a band that's often overrated.....but I'd still take them over The Stones and Floyd.
 
Cool


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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 30 2014 at 00:35
All a matter of opinion for which band works 'better' sonically for you, but did the Stones really produce a DSOTM?
I think not. Floyd adapted with the times and threw something completely innovative that the public just ate up.

2nd highest selling album of all time. Only that freakin' Thriller by MJ destroys that Floyd sales total.

Can't base this on everything, but when Floyd were rolling....they rolled over everyone including those damn old stones!


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 30 2014 at 07:48
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

All a matter of opinion for which band works 'better' sonically for you, but did the Stones really produce a DSOTM?
I think not. Floyd adapted with the times and threw something completely innovative that the public just ate up.

2nd highest selling album of all time. Only that freakin' Thriller by MJ destroys that Floyd sales total.

Can't base this on everything, but when Floyd were rolling....they rolled over everyone including those damn old stones!

Of course, man! 'cause e.g. Exile On Main Street is, say, "avant-rock" and/or "underground" in comparision with, say, "psychedelia-related" and/or a-bit-less-than-super-super-super-commercial stuff as DSOTM as well.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 20:48
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

All a matter of opinion for which band works 'better' sonically for you, but did the Stones really produce a DSOTM?
I think not. Floyd adapted with the times and threw something completely innovative that the public just ate up.

2nd highest selling album of all time. Only that freakin' Thriller by MJ destroys that Floyd sales total.

Can't base this on everything, but when Floyd were rolling....they rolled over everyone including those damn old stones!

Of course, man! 'cause e.g. Exile On Main Street is, say, "avant-rock" and/or "underground" in comparision with, say, "psychedelia-related" and/or a-bit-less-than-super-super-super-commercial stuff as DSOTM as well.


You hit it on the head, my great Irishman.


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Posted By: Archeus
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 17:07
There is no such thing as "the greatest rock band ever"... Anyway, I absolutely dislike The Rolling Stones, they're not my cup of tea at all Dead


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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 21:01
Originally posted by Archeus Archeus wrote:


There is no such thing as "the greatest rock band ever"... Anyway, I absolutely dislike The Rolling Stones, they're not my cup of tea at all Dead


Totally agree with that statement.

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