Admin changes
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Topic: Admin changes
Posted By: Easy Livin
Subject: Admin changes
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 12:48
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With apologies for the belated nature of this announcement, Guigo (Atkingani) and Tony (Tony R) have stepped down as admins, and rejoined the ranks of special collaborators. Guigo has been a member of the site since 2005, and has been on the admin team for several years. His calm and friendly demeanour has resulted in him making many friends around the site. He was in many ways the perfect admin, resolving issues through negotiation rather than confrontation. I had the pleasure of meeting Guigo a few years ago with his lovely wife. I can assure you he is even nicer in real life! Tony joined the site as “Reed Lover”in the very early days of the site. Many of us recall his informed debating style, especially those epic debates with Maani, and how he later reinvented himself as Tony R. In my personal opinion, Tony has done more than anyone else to make the site what it is today. When tempers got frayed Tony was always on hand to step in and resolve matters, sometimes even resorting to telephone calls to other members of the site. Much of what Tony has done for the site has been transparent to the members, but please be assured, he has dedicated an incredible amount of time and effort and we are all the beneficiaries of his work. I am sure you will join me in wishing Guigo and Tony well, and thank them for their major contribution to Progarchives. I am pleased to say that both remain regular visitors and contributors to the site. On the other hand, Andy Webb joined the Admin team a few months ago, and has quickly established himself as a fine member of the team. Andy brings with him a youthful enthusiasm which bodes well for the future of the site. |
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 12:57
I hope Guigi and Tony enjoy their "retirement" as they've both earned it, two of the most important contributors to this site .
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 13:15
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Youthful enthusiasm all the way! Great to see people dedicated to this site. Guigo and Tony have my ultimate respect for their contributions and manners, I hope they continue contributing to the site in one way or another. |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 13:36
 to Guigo and Tony. Enjoy your retirement.  do you guys get a pension? ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 13:58
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Best wishes to both of you. I, for one, have very much appreciated Tony's calm, measured, diplomacy. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 14:16
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Kudos gentlemen and best wishes going forward!! |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 14:19
| My appreciation and best wishes to Guigo and Tony, and also kudos to Andy! |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 14:40
Party on Tony & Guigo!
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 15:05
| Henry Plainview lead admin 2013? |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 15:12
| Two fine gentlemen that have made the site better. Enjoy retirement. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 15:29
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Do they get any pension rights? Cheers to both of yous ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 18:14
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You two have done great Admin works for us all members, much appreciated. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 19:49
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Oh, so many great memories, and so glad they're both staying on the site. My affection for Guigo is only matched by my gratitude to Tony, and my respect for them is even greater. And I'll be expecting a call from Tony soon. Collect. |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: April 25 2013 at 20:10
Thanks Bob for your kind words and also thanks my dear comrades for remembering me and wishing me well.  Yes, I'm still here. I love this site and those great memories of some good moments will never be forgotten.  Andy is doing a magnificent job: a huge asset for the Admin Team!!!  Five stars for you all.@ Bob: Ana sends her best regards for you and Carole.  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 02:07
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Both of you always diplomatic and yet so different :-) Best wishes.... ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 02:22
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A real shame to be losing you both from the team, but a well deserved retirement after years of fantastic service.
Now, about those pension rights... ------------- 
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 03:08
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Well, thanks and cheers ! ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 06:10
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ReedLover was before my time here, but judging by what others have told me the statement "Many of us recall his informed debating style" is quite funny.
Well done to both, a fully deserved retirement.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 07:07
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Reed was known for his strong views, vigorous debating style & full & frank exchanges of opinion. I'm restrained from saying more under the Official Secrets Act -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 08:42
Er, since Tony is retiring who is taking on the role of the person the Doctor gives massive headaches?  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 08:43
^ That will be Andy
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 09:25
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Yup! Definitely Andy. -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 09:27
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But Tony was so much fun. Sigh. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 10:23
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I'm sure you can, in your own inimitable style, have just as much fun with Andy - Mwahahahahahaaaaaaaa -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 11:18
I'm a little burnt out and thought it was time to put an end to the "should I stay or should I go" torment by just demoting myself. I've heaps of exciting stuff on at work and an expanded role so I only really have the energy to "pratt about" on the Internet and being an Admin here was causing me problems as I got suspended from other forums 
It's nice not to feel the obligation to log on here and hopefully I can return to just posting for fun at Progarchives. I don't think my Special Collaborator is appropriate really, I just clicked on that to exclude myself from the Admin Zone. I've met and "worked" alongside some wonderful people here, Admin, Collabs and members. It's nice that people like "The Doctor" bear no grudges and disappointing that some still do. I did what I had to do... I hope that this site continues to grow, and that decisions made are transparent and for the good of the site and the members, not just change for change's sake. Hopefully I will finally get to meet up with some here at some point, until then, see you around. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 14:54
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Thanks for the welcome, it looks like I'm here to stay. And gosh, shouldn't the Doctor be removing my headaches? ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: April 26 2013 at 16:40
^ You'd have to ask Tony about that. On second thought, don't do that.  And welcome Andy. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 27 2013 at 03:49
He must make a better admin than a site monitor (what ever happened to that latter unfulfilled appointment?) I was an admin for circa 12 months and had no direct dealings with Guigo (Atkingani) so cannot comment further but he seemed like a perfectly fine and reasonable chap who clearly was pivotal in the present shape of the site By his own documented admission Tony R could be a 'pompous arse' but certainly was the closest thing we have here to the "last word' before you were perma-banned. Despite his life-long allegiance to the reviled Man Ure, I have a grudging and sneaking respect for this elevated troll. I'm just being honest, it's a two way street ------------- 
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Triceratopsoil wrote:Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 27 2013 at 04:56
Well done and prog on, guys! Thank you for everything.  I know I was naughty too sometimes and sorry about that. You were a great asset to the site and I hope you'll not get off the radar.  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 27 2013 at 14:13
I was just resurrecting an old/bad joke |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: April 27 2013 at 18:39
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Deep and sincere thanks to Guigo and Tony for their long dedication to this site. Solid people like them with 'big picture' viewpoints are what have kept me here so long. Your endless hours of work will always be felt here.
Thanks!  ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 03:00
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Update. Jody (TheProgologist) has also stepped down from the admin team. Jody has been a fine contributor to the site over many years, both through his specialist knowledge of Prog metal and his role as an admin. We thank Jody for all his work for the site. I'm delighted to say that Jody will also be sticking around.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 05:04
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Thanks Jody the Progtologist and all the best for you!
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 10:14
What?! Another one...  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 11:40
Many thanks to Guigo, Tony and Jody! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 15:36
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Dropping like flies the lot of you Thanks to Jody for all your hard work. This feels like a clear out. What going on?!?! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 16:43
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I stopped sacrificing virgins to all the metal gods and it has been nothing but downhill form there. Seriously though,I came back to help but I am just too busy and it's not fair to someone who is motivated and can dedicate time to the site. Weird,I never thought my life would get more hectic when my kids got older.It's not supposed to be like this! Thanks guys -------------  |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 16:58
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Enjoy your retirement Jody. Hope to see you around the site more often now that you're stepping down. Very disappointing to hear you've stopped the virgin sacrifices. I still try to get in at least one a month. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 17:16
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Cheers Jody and thank you for your contributions!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 02:38
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Thanks for that second tour Jody, and great you'll still be here. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 08:23
kudos to the metal man as well  - waiting for suggestions from you in the future Jody
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 13:23
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I really don't understand what has happened with the site over the years. In the beginning it was fun and exciting. Now it is a political conflagration with too many admirals and not enough ordinary seamen. Everyone is a know-it-all. It's just a freaking music site for Christ sake not a military formation or a Forbes 100 company. I dunno. I guess the world is a different place every day when you wake up in the morning.
Why can't we just be equals here? ------------- |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 13:33
Heehee . . . you said seamen . . . ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:05
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^^ who is obstructing you from being equal to the rest of the members? Every site/group/organisation/team needs some sort of "formation" otherwise it becomes a playground |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:07
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Case in point. The site has just gone to the dogs and nobody seems to care anymore. I've committed a lot of my time in the past writing reviews, updating biographies and contacting artists for information that otherwise would not be available. I just think it was a freaking waste. All this guy can offer is a childish response to my concerns? I dunno man. ------------- |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:10
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We ARE all equals. Its just some of us ar more equal than the others. (apologies for old joke) ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:39
There are tenths or even hundreds of people committing a lot of time on this website. Maybe some of them feel they are wasting/have wasted their time, some not. Rather than expressing your concerns (which can be valid if you could really explain what you are talking about) how about suggesting what needs to be changed, if you care of course. If not, why bother making the statement at all? |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:51
Seriously? Your initial comment basically attacks the structure and intent of the site without offering any specifics as you complain about the rigid political 'military foundation' of the current management team. I figured that a comment showing that we don't all take ourselves as seriously as you imply was in order, in effect, I was attempting to show that 'fun' can still be had on the site. Your answer to that was effectively that I'm too flippant? I mean at this point, it seems that you're trying to start a flame war here. If I can make an honest suggestion here, if you really want to enact some kind of change, give specifics rather than a general rant. From your initial post, I can't tell what you're really angry about. I can attest that many of us do in fact care about the site. Many of us have committed time on reviews and contacting artists as well. Personally I've had artists give me excessive grief about the genre that they were assigned. A lot of us have and continue to put a lot of effort into the site. Trust me Ian, you've done a heck of a lot more reviews than I have, I don't want to take anything away from that, I just really don't understand why you think it was a waste. We're pretty much the premier prog site on the web, we have a huge amount of information available, new members arrive daily . . . For many of us, we're still fun and exciting. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 20:49
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Some are here to work.
Some are here to have fun. Some are here to lurk. Some are here to laugh. Many are here 'cos they love music. Some are here to send illegal downloaders to hell. Some are here 'cos they do believe in the day. Some are here to share. Some are here to participate. Some are here to chill out. Some are here to do what they have to. Me? I'm just a lawnmower... ------------- |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 20:58
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We could tell you by the way you type.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:00
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it's just Vibe with his annual strafing run. Nice to see you Ian. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:03
Really? ------------- |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:12
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:14
Indeed. ------------- |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 22:05
You rant on Ian, it is your given right. I do believe there a lot of new /newer people putting heaps of effort into the site for Max's bank account and let's face it for our pleasure. One thing this site has mostly tolerated is the freedom to rant and come and go as we please. It is almost 10 years for me being a member here and and I welcome change with new faces. Keeps it fresh, not really sure what your rant is about but hope it gets sorted VB ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 15:54
I was referring to the guy who misspelled the word " semen". My point is that this ranking system has just got out of control. It's confusing and misleading at the same time. Same goes for all the made up genres. I've had quite a few people have a look at the site over the years &monthsincluding musicians and a cousin who was involved in the music industry back in the seventies & eighties. He just said that it was a cheesy site. Not much else. Guys & gals it's just a music site not repairing the optics on the curiousity Mars lander from 62 million km away. I wish we could just get back to basics here. Right now I have to get back to my aeroplane! ------------- |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:13
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^ Cheesy sells |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:43
And frankly, the view from 5-stars isn't that great, and certainly is a long way from premier cru and caviar. Normally voluntary work has it's own reward, the self-recognition of a job well-done even if no one else notices (if you're looking for a pat on the back for every little thing you do around here then you've come to the wrong place). But speaking as an Admin, apart from handing out an extra star to someone who has yet to become cynical and jaded, there is no pleasure to be had in any of the tasks we undertake.
Sure this site is a cheesy little site, I for one would not want it any other way, and I certainly wouldn't work for free on a site that was more professional and less cheesy. That's what makes it a fan site (even if someone is profiting from the advertising revenue), that fact that all contributions are welcome, regardless of how well written they are.
Hell, I'd much rather read about what a fan thought of the music he was actually listening to than read some by-the-numbers review on a more polished site that is more interested in how smart the reviewer can present himself and his shallow opinion in prosaic cursive script than they are in the actual substance of the music. I've lost count of how many "professional" reviews I've read that look more like paid advertising copy, or worse still, barely mention the album at all in seveal paragraphs of text.
As you say, it's just a music site and I'll add that it is one where in the music the substance is more important than the style.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:48
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:54
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:59
'kin'ell! Ian's learnt how to post images! 
hey... wait a minute - who are you and what have you done with the real Ian? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 05 2013 at 10:05
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It is the real Ian man. He just decided to move into the 21st century although he still thinks that this piece of junk and waste of time & money.  ------------- |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 05 2013 at 10:44
That's because it probably is. When the USA starts running around the world cap-in-hand for funding of an airframe that will be outdated before it lifts off the tarmac you just know it's going to be a turkey. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 05 2013 at 13:25
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Mabye I can start a thread called F-35 vs Ford Edsel  VS  ------------- |