I'm new and I like the best prog bands!
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Topic: I'm new and I like the best prog bands!
Posted By: Bluenipper
Subject: I'm new and I like the best prog bands!
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 00:32
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My Favourite Bands! Dream Theater Transatlantic Neal Morse Band Rush Nightwish Porcupine Tree Marillion |
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 07:06
Welcome! I believe I just rated your avatar in the other thread.  ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Ajay
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 13:52
| Welcome, fellow Aussie and fan of Transatlantic and Marillion! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 14:02
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Welcome. So these are the best prog bands? Thanks for the heads up. I've never actually heard of the Neal Morse Band. Must check them out.
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Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 14:11
Welcome to PA and greetings from Scotland. 
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 15:50
Hi Bluenipper. Nightwish doesn't belong to the best PROG rock bands. You will have the opportunity to broaden your tastes with PA (the bands you listed are quite "mainstream" in prog / metal world) ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Bluenipper wrote:Posted By: Bluenipper
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 23:38
| It's just the band that Neal Morse has on his solo albums consisting of Mike Portnoy, Randy George and a few others |
Posted By: Bluenipper
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 23:39
| yew |
Posted By: Bluenipper
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 23:40
| Yeah I don't actually have any nightwish albums although I do like their music but they are towards the bottom of my fav bands |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:17
Hello Bluenipper, nice to meet you  I like quite a few of the bands you named above. Hugs and welcome to P.A,
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:18
So... you meant to say that you don't like any of the best prog bands?  ------------- 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:22
hahahaha!!! Thellama73, I am sure he didn't mean it that being limited to those or otherwise he will change his mind real quick being here
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:26
I don't mean to be cruel, but I hope that he takes the time to explore the classics such as King Crimson, Yes, Jethro Tull, Camel, Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, etc. Apart from Rush, I don't like a single band on that list. -------------
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:31
I know exactly what you mean Thellama, you are curious, certainly said nothing negative and were most welcoming too :) all the above bands you mentioned I like them a lot too except for one which everyone loves inc. Bluenipper  A huge hug to you
Thellama xxxx |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:47
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Welcome. Based on your list, you should check out these bands/artists: King Crimson Haken Frank Zappa Yes The Flower Kings ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 00:47
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I seem to be the odd one out because one of my ultimate fav band's is Uriah Heep (with David Byron and Ken Hensley). |
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 07:50
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Welcome! Being a fellow DT fan (as well as the others in your list), you might like to check out some of the bands in my signature!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 07:57
Don't worry "Neal Morse band" doesn't exist. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 08:34
Good job, Kati, since you're around you're defrosting us all on the site
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 08:36
Welcome! I like some other bands on the site like Genesis, Yes and ELP, but you've certainly come to the right site! You'll find many here who like the bands you like. And you might get some ideas for other bands, like happened to me. I hope you have a good time here
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:21
Welcome! Pretty good entry bands them all (I'm not familiar with Nightwish) but here you'l get to know sooooo much more good stuff, most probably endless. I must also recommend to any Prog lover not familiar with the 70's classics (I am assuming, sorry if wrongly) to get to know them before venturing into other things, they may not always be 'the best' or end up being your favourites but they became the classics for something, they are the source and benchmark for much other Prog ever made. Otherwise it's like starting by Einstein without getting first familiar with Newton.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:23
Give the guy a break, please  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:27
Yes, don't criticise Dream Theater ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:31
I wasn't even talking about that, I know it's not your(the users of this forum) intentions but you guys can come across as snobbish at times  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:35
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^Well I am a snob, don't you know. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:37
Well I try to be modest and humble because to me no one is ever superior to anyone  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:46
You? Humble? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:47
Yes actually ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:49
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Welcome Bluenipper and the list of your favourite bands (with the exception of Nightwish...) |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 21:31
Nothing says humble like bragging about how humble you are. As for me, I am a snob and I will never give anyone a break for any reason. Ever. -------------
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Posted By: Bluenipper
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 23:46
| I don't mind Jethro Tull and some King Crimson songs are all right but my favourite bands are the more modern ones that I listed earlier. Also the Neal Morse band does not really have that title that is just my name for the group of musicians that Neal has on his solo albums and when he tours. |
Posted By: Bluenipper
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 23:47
| Yeah I have listened to some classics like Yes, King Crimson and Genesis but I don't really like it enough to purchase any albums. I prefer the more modern take on progressive music. |
Posted By: Bluenipper
Date Posted: February 07 2013 at 23:50
| I do like Haken and the Flower Kings although I don't have any of their albums as of yet. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 02:18
Good for you and keep exploring your own taste I'm more of a vintage, classical kind of guy and that's good too
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 05:30
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Bluenipper, you might enjoy this, it's a more heavy Yes song. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 05:51
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^if he likes DT he probably knows it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 10:24
Vintage, and reliced, given that you have been here for a couple of aeons... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 10:31
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Anybody who knows a llama, knows that he kids from time to time (although not everybody as it would seem...).
And welcome to the site monsieur nipper! I hope you'll discover lots of new fantastic music, just like every other person on here - and maybe stumble across some of the cool and knowledgeable people around the forums  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 17:08
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 17:26
just shut your hole you arrogant person  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:32
How about Frank Zappa? I think his music has something for everyone to enjoy. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 06:48
Reliced, what's that? Couldn't find it on Google Translate. But I have been here for a long time, yes, I have so much wisdom to share. There is in fact more earth than sea
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 15:33
"Reliced" is "having had the lice put back in after a delousing". -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 15:58
Good Lord, it's been a while since I saw someone crack a joke on PA .. completely inappropriate for the solemn, most educated discourse of this forum
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 22:32
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Welcome n00b. We will slowly crush the music-loving part of your soul and leave you a bitter husk of a person.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 22:56
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So many visit the nation of prog and hope to see the whole thing from the freeway. You've got to hit the backroads and residential streets at some point.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 00:01
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in my opinion the best prog bands were the bands of the late 60s and early 70s. I will explain why: in these days everything was possible and no artistic compromises necessary; record companies were hungry for new bands and would produce any album, no matter what the content was (and often rip off the artists with the contracts they made them sign). these days any band that does something really original will be told that there is "no commercial potential" by some A&R man, so either the band has to find some alternative label or produce and distribute their album on their own. or just give in and compromise. the production of the records may be better this way, but the artistic originality will suffer. and artistic originality is much more important for me than perfection of production; I'd rather listen to a badly produced album full of highly original ideas than to a perfect run-of-the-mill production. of course there is the odd exception every now and then. but mostly today's music has become quite uniform and therefore boring -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 04:09
Relicing is the process of damaging the paint and surface of perfectly good guitars and basses to make them look 'vintage'. http://electriccom.blogspot.nl/2009/02/reliced-guitars.html" rel="nofollow - Here's an example . If you couldn't find that, you're Google skills are in line with your PA-age ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 04:59
 words ending in "c" are always a giggle in English - the convention is to add a "k" after the "c", for example panic becomes panicked, mimic becomes mimicked. Unfortunately that would still fail for relic as it would be come relicked. When you mic up a piano, the past tense convention of adding a "k" would have given micked, and the present participle would be micking, both of which would be pronounced "mick" not "mike", so the "c" is dropped to leave miked and miking. But would also fail for relic which would be reliked or reliking. Using the unconventional apostrophised contraction of relic'd would preserve the pronounciation of the root word.------------- What? |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 05:40
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"mimic - mimicking" is another example
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 13:22
Hehe, I was thinking myself about a Mars Volta related post. Only I didn't post it, you did |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 13:29
Oops, I was thinking it was a typo after Translate didn't give a translation, I didn't even try Google Hmm, well... I still learned something at my... PA-age
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:04
perhaps the most amazing feature of the English language: you can turn anything into a verb. this is for example by far not the same in German, though lately following the global trend of anglicisation, which the German language has become a victim of too, some forced efforts are being made at it. the most amazing feature of the German language is the ability of making compound words. Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenband (meaning "ribbon on the cap of a captain of the Danube steamship company"). ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:11
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However, call me an old fuddydudddy but I don't think Relic makes a verb!?
It should be 'aged' no? But like you say, if someone wants to and someone else likes it then that makes me astuckinthemudpersonwhoisresistanttochange. (Or am I confusing that with the German)
as we say here! ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:13
that sounds cheesy, if I may say so with a slight bow towards your nickname in here as to "aged" instead of "reliced": "relicing" is one of the examples of that amazing feature of the English language which I mentioned ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:14
Good lord, what a fantastic post. For a linguistics nut like me, that was a real treat. Well done, Dean. -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:35
I don't think aged is the right word in this instance anyway - aging is somthing that happens naturally, like cheese or whisky. Relic'd is faux-aging so antiqued or distressed would be more apt.
However, as Jean says one of the glories of the English language is anything can be turned into a verb, (and any adjective can be come a noun, etc.) also it's a living, dynamic language that must be allowed to grow and change. ------------- What? |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:45
I'm sure that you can say furniture can be aged , as in deliberately made to look older - I will check with th Antiques Roadshow. But, I agree (as I said) that any word can be used as a verb especially if it takes off and others start to use it. I just think (as you proved) relic'd reliced relicked relict is just a bit clumsy when written.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:47
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:03
"Distressed" is the term I've always heard with furniture, and as you say it avoids the awkwardness with the "c", although I'm as much of a fan of making up new words as anybody. A perfectly cromulent passtime. -------------
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:06
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Ah yes! Distressed! Maybe thats what it should be? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:10
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Do I look nice in distress? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:16
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No! Good God man what made you put that on? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:18
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Curiosity. It killed my dog. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:23
"distressed"? hm, I just imagine having a visitor and saying to him or her: "excuse me, my armchair is a bit distressed today". I am certain I would get funny looks ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:29
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Distressed is in fact the proper word. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:32
It would be an odd thing to say in the same sense that saying "excuse me, my armchair is a bit upholstered today" would be an odd thing to say. -------------
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:32
Not surprised. The site of you in distress would be enough to limit the lifespan of any dog ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 15:55
I know it is; I was just fooling around ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 16:03
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Before this wanders off into perminant resisdence in Call My Bluff land I'd just like to say that I'm old and I like the best prog bands.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 19:11
| antiqued |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 19:38
"To antique" means "to go shopping for antiques" not "to make something look older." -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 19:44
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does it? an·tique vt to treat something, especially a new object, so that it looks antique or worn with time |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 20:27
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Huh. That is an alternate definition of which I was not aware.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 20:34
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in the case you point out, my guess is one wouldn't say "They antique a lot", but rather "They go antiquing a lot" |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 23:36
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oh, the antics of antiquing!
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 04:18
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Would offtracking also be a feasible term for what the collected collaborators and senior members are doing to this poor newbies thread? ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 04:39
| Off-topicing would be a better word for it, I suppose. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 04:40
Thou' off-topicking would be more correct. Sure, but why create another word when sidetracking already exists? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 04:46
If relicing is a correct word, so would offtopicing be I'm good at logicing. Applicing rules to language is like mathematicing
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 05:03
Nope. When two words are compounded to form a new word a hyphen is used, for example off-road or off-piste, you will also notice that offtopicing contains the word "icing" (which is how you would pronouce the ending in your spelling) rather than "icking", so the addition of the "k" results in the correct pronoucination. So yes, English has rules, most of which are broken with alarming regularity, but that does not mean those rules never apply. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 06:33
I believe you, but like BaldJean earlier in the thread, I was just fooling around And now:  I always wanted to use that emoticon once
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 07:18
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Practically every post I make is "just fooling around" but that seldom involves writing things I don't believe to be true. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 09:09
While you're fooling around you're improving other people's English? Sounds more like "schooling around" than "fooling around"
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 09:12
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punny. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 09:17
Punny? That's quite punny too I love good puns. |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 14:57
Awww thank you very much, Moogtron III much appreciate what you said. Life should be fun and nothing should be taken too serious (well except for paying our bill unfortunately that is serious , we don't have much choice in that matter) everything else should fun and silly! This is my motto to be happy Hug hug hug HUG and more hugs to you P.S. Don't you dare melt and disappear umphf!
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 12 2013 at 06:49
I won't melt. I'm hug-proof. I never tried to hug bills and see if they would disappear. |