Recommend some Prog Metal (I don't know)
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Topic: Recommend some Prog Metal (I don't know)
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: Recommend some Prog Metal (I don't know)
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:07
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First of all, I have to say I already know lots of prog metal/post metal/tech metal listed on PA, but I'm looking for some I'm not familiar with. Without listing all the bands I know/like, I will say of the three subs I enjoy 'Progressive Metal' the least and 'Tech/Extreme Prog Metal' the most. So, if anyone suggests something I already know I will mention that. I'm looking for something that sounds similar to this: ...but sounds nothing like this: ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:25
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3 Polish bands with a Meshuggah influence : and Meshuggah's guitarist : Also the band Praxis : ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:44
| Listened to Vaura yet? |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:43
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You've most likely heard of these guys before, if not: Some of the weirder Prog Metal out there - not really Tech, more laced with Avant and Industrial elements. Kind of remind me on Nine Inch Nails in a way. Not too big of a fan, but still a great band. They did a killer Schizoid cover though.  Also: Okay, we all know these guys, but I still had to post them. THOSE RIFFS. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:47
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how in the world are Necrophagist progressive music in the slightest? I would argue they are the antithesis of progressive music. As soon as you turn on any song you know exactly where it's going - nowhere. ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:55
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- I liked that Kobong track; need to check their albums out. - That Ketha song sounded a little too much like Meshuggah (whom I can take in small doses but am not a huge fan of). - The Neuma track was interesting. Sounds like a modified sax (or trumpet?) in there. - The Thordendal track was alright, not really what I'm looking for though. - I'm vaguely familiar with Praxis. They are not listed on PA but another Praxis from Mexico is in Eclectic Prog. I do need to check them out more as I am a fan of a lot of the musicians who collaborate on that project. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:58
Well, I know they're not in the database here, but man, there are tons of bands of the top of my head that should rightfully be here, but aren't deemed "Progressive" by popular conventions and perspective, or are at least not Genesis and Yes rip-offs.   Necrophagist, well in my opinion at least, are very unconventional in the context of their musicianship. I mean, their approach and composition is rather the same and unvaried for a so called "Progressive group", but dude, those guys can PLAY. That's got to at least count for some sort of unique attribute when compared to music outside of a Progressive or Experimental domain, you know? Maybe they're not Prog Meta per se, but anybody that's a fan of the style and musicianship, would love these guys. -------------
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Sumdeus wrote:Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:59
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What's your opinion on them Sumdeus?
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:16
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so if a band has technical playing you consider them progressive? i just don't see how Necrophagist are progressive in any sense. They play extremely cliche and predictable technical death metal. I guess it might seem unconventional compared to music that's not technical or related to death metal but in the death metal spectrum Necrophagist are very safe and typical ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:43
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How are you with black/doom/post metal? Those in bold I highly recommend Akphaezya Aghora maybe, they're related to Cynic I'd be surprised if you haven't tried them already but Between the Buried and Me are a must. Burst, particularly the last album Lazarus Bird Canvas Solaris Circle Takes the Square Diabolical Masquerade Drawn Edge of Sanity Ellipsis Ephel Dueth Giant Squid Gojira Gordian Knot Grayceon hAND Ihsahn Intronaut Leprous Lux Occulta Madder Mortem No Made Sense The Pax Cecilia Peccatum Protest the Hero Ram-Zet Rolo Tomassi Sculptured Sikth Thence To-Mera Tusk Virus Yakuza ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:48
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ooh on that note i just remembered this I definitely consider this progressive (check all three parts since it got split up on youtube), very cool atmospheric black metal which experiments outside of the black metal realm yet still stays true to the sound and feel of the genre as opposed to some other bands who tend to take the black metal aesthetics of lo-fi distorted guitars, shrieked vocals, and pummeling drumming and just play whatever music they want and call it "progressive black metal" also this One of my favorites when it comes to prog metal. Stunning Italian black/doom metal ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: progger7
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:48
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Posted By: progger7
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:50
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whoops ignore this one. just noticed you said not like symphony X. lol -------------
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:00
No of course not, but wouldn't you say the technicality of musicianship though, is rather unique compared to most modern metal, and specifically death metal bands? I mean, it's of course in the same vulgar style as a lot of the bands within the field, but they're belting out riffs and solos I'd hear in BTBAM's music, or Cynic's for that matter - quite a bit more intricate, and creative. Yes, within their own genre, they're a pretty typical sounding band, but a representative band for sure though. Hey, I just thought I'd post them just to give a glimpse for someone who hasn't, but anybody that's into the more technical side of metal, would of course know them. Dude, I respect your opinion and perspective, and I see where you're coming from, and I actually mostly agree with you, but I think they have a lot of experimental qualities for metal that would deem them qualified for some sort of Progressive status.  -------------
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Posted By: progger7
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:08
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Gojira, Meshuggah, Opeth and Blotted Science are examples of Progressive (Death) Metal bands. Necrophagist is NOT. especially when you compare them to the bands I mentioned. -------------
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:11
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Sort of Mathcore pioneers - big influence on Dillinger for sure. Man, I wish these guys were still around. Great, great band. Another great band that's sadly disbanded. -------------
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:14
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I still have to disagree. I used to be incredibly into extreme metal and death metal and tech death in specific and I just find Necrophagist as run-of-the-mill as it gets. Even in that small niche of flashy weedly-weedly tech death there's a lot more progressive stuff around and there's also the case of things like Atheist, who were playing technical and rather progressive death metal a good decade before anything like Necrophagist was around ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:43
Aw yeah? What bands were you into? You a a fan of Protest The Hero? -------------
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:44
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- I've heard of Shining but never got around to checking their music out yet. Not bad, need to do more research.
- I've only heard of Necrophagist and how some modern bands supposedly sound like them. Sound like typical technical death metal.
-Edge of Sanity
Giant Squid Ihsahn Leprous Protest the Hero Familiar with these ones. I think I've tried a few songs by Between The Buried And Me but don't remember much about them. I'll look into the others.
- The Brulvahnatu track was pretty intense. Not sure what to think of it but I'll check out the other parts.
- Necromass was pretty good, nothing I haven't really heard before.
- Skyharbor didn't really do it for me, not my cup of tea.
- Darkwater is more vanilla symphonic prog metal which I'm not a big fan of.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions!
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:47
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:52
No I don't dig Protest at all, I also don't consider them death metal in the slightest. during my tech death heyday my main bands were Necrophagist, Psycroptic, The Faceless, Gorod, things like that. I got out of it rather quickly though, that was before i really delved into true death metal and black metal and once I was hooked on the old school bands most of the flashy tech stuff lost its' appeal to me. Nowadays when I think of tech death I like it's either on the old school side like Atheist or on the total other extreme such as Gorguts' Obscura. The more mainstream tech stuff lost its' appeal to me, too much focus on technicality and playing something really impressive and showy rather than writing a good song. also worth noting that something that helped me bridge between modern tech death and traditional death metal was death metal from around the mid-90's area, I see it as the between period where it still have the power and essence of true death metal but was branching out into more technical areas. Cryptopsy's None So Vile is my favorite death metal record ever and I hold it as one of the best, perfect blend of death metal spirit, a new sense of technical playing and experimentation, including some elements of jazz and funk in the guitar and bass, respectively ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 21:26
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The heaviest i get is Cynic. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 22:15
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- That Botch song just sounded like modern alternative metal.
- I've heard of Harvey Milk (the band) but never explored their music. I liked that, gotta look into them.
- Gorod wasn't bad but not what I'm looking for. Same goes for Psycroptic.
- The Safety Fire I liked. Need to listen to more songs.
- The Arusha Accord song didn't do much for me.
(K I'm not using bold anymore, it's starting to p*ss me off)
I know Atheist (and Cynic) very well. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 22:32
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also just realized these guys deserve mention for sure. true progressive metal, Portal take elements of black and death metal and twist them into something completely alien and unknown. Literally the imagination of Lovecraft unleashed upon you through sound, an atmosphere of utter chaos ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 26 2013 at 23:09
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That was awful. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 27 2013 at 01:55
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First of all Zravkapt let me say I really enjoyed the first video you posted, it was really progressive and not just extreme stuff. Let me suggest to you a truly interesting band. Pan.Thy.Monium, very progressive stuff, a lot of twists and turns, jazzy solos but still extreme stuff, I hope you don't get turned off by harsh vocals because the music is really rewarding. Two very long songs, hope you'll enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfPKfHpaZyY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfPKfHpaZyY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IaNkAuDhHY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IaNkAuDhHY |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 27 2013 at 03:52
haha well considering you said Cynic is the heaviest you get I wouldn't expect you to enjoy it at all. There's a certain precision and control to the chaos that you don't notice from the first listen though, it's really quite good. Like the filthiest Morbid Angel riffs mixed with really dark atmospheric black metal and just twisted into something beyond imagination. They put on a hell of a live show too. ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 27 2013 at 07:08
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here is my current favourite band you might enjoy this Horizon -------------  
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Posted By: scrivener
Date Posted: January 27 2013 at 09:21
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I'm going to echo the recommendation of Between the Buried and Me. Because they're so adventurous, you might not care for one album but love the next. The one that really does it for me is The Great Misdirect, which is the first album I've heard in decades that reminded me of listening to Dark Side of the Moon from beginning to end. I'm not comparing the musical styles of BtBaM and Floyd; I'm saying that listening to that album has a similar effect. I just get immersed. Lost. Soaked in.
And I'd be willing to bet you've already checked out Amorphis, but if not, try their Skyforger album for starters. They also vary their style from album to album, and this isn't the most proggy metal out there, but it's interesting enough that you might dig it. ------------- Reading maketh a full man; conference a ready man; and writing an exact man. --- Francis Bacon |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 27 2013 at 18:42
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- Portal sounded like extreme metal sh*t, I didn't hear anything 'proggy' about it.
Thanks a lot! Both Karaboudjan and Pan.Thy.Monium are projects of Dan Swano. I have heard of PTM but never heard their music until now. The second track I liked the most; the vocals in the first one were a bit much but I could tolerate them.
- Is that an entire Arcturus album? I will have to listen to that later.
- I've never heard Amorphis before and they're not the kind of prog metal I'm into. Poppy symph metal, not my thing but I know a girl who would love them! ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 00:53
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I know Swano has a thousand projects but I didn't know about Karaboudjan, now you got me totally curious!! Definitely will check it out. And I'm sure repeated listenings to P.T.M will get you hooked my friend. Thanks! Edit: Just saw that Karaboudjan album is less than 20 minutes?!  What the hell?? |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 07:03
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^It's just a 3 song EP, I reviewed it. Wish it was a full-time project with full albums. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 08:00
| ^ Yes. I managed to download it before I'll get a copy. Loving every bit of it! Thanks again. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 09:06
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For just a sec I thought you wanted recommendations like Symphony X and I was almost out of this thread before I had read what this was all about  Ok, some obscurities for you. Chryst, real weird avant fun epicness or a bit more serious and doomy Woburn House or something more into Mr Bungle directions maybe? Pryapisme or something noisy core? Cleric I can also recommend Neuma which was suggested earlier on |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 09:06
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Oh, and also this: This is really great stuff; certainly progressive and experimental. -------------
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 17:04
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- Chryst was interesting; have to listen to a full song or album.
- Woburn House sounds like some post metal I have heard. Not bad but not really what I'm into.
- Pryapisme was awesome! I need to check them out.
- Not sure what to make of Cleric yet, have to listen to them some more. That track got more interesting as it went along.
- Tesseract I have heard of, but haven't listened to their music yet. They sound similar to some alternative metal stuff I have heard.
Thanks again to everyone for the suggestions! ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 30 2013 at 08:26
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Also, 'Mantiis' from Obsidian Kingdom. A fine record from 2012, very eclectic, be it more 'traditional' then previous things I suggested. Worth a try anyway. http://obsidiankingdom.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://obsidiankingdom.bandcamp.com/ Also also, I'm sure you have the latest Ihsahn album already? |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 01 2013 at 17:27
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^The OK track wasn't bad, should probably check out the whole album. No, I haven't heard the new Ihsahn yet. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |