z.a.r.p.e.k. (O-Z) IV
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Topic: z.a.r.p.e.k. (O-Z) IV
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Subject: z.a.r.p.e.k. (O-Z) IV
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 20:08
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As per usual in these early rounds vote if you recommend one even if you don't know the rest.
Popol Vuh is in the house !
Another excellent selection of albums makes this a tough choice for me. I've narrowed it down to three and will vote later. My top three are Potemkine, The Spacious Mind and Prosper. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 20:10
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 21:09
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Hmm... Only have a few on this list...Zaar, Pinhas, and Ruins. There is something about that Ruins album that I like alot, ditto for Zaar. I'm going to think this one over. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 23:35
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I know several of these and ZAAR! Hurdy-gurdy is definitely one of my soft spots in music. Not a big fan of that Ruins album, it takes (almost) everything I love so much about the rawness and intensity of Ruins and...makes it more symphonic. No thanks.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 07:23
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I've only heard Chronolyse by Richard Pinhas It's a very cool album  ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 07:59
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Not sure... I've got at least something from about half of these groups, but the only album I have of these is Richard Pinhas, which is pretty good to great (the long track at the end where he pulls out his guitar, especially). I was a big supporter of Ruins in the early days, but I seemed to lose interest just as they were starting to make their music more complex (Hyderomastgroningem). Not that I didn't like it, it's just my tastes were shifting away from their fast and frenzied sound. So I haven't heard the Symphonica, but I'd like to someday. I've since bought a couple of more recent albums (Pallaschtom and that live one), but haven't really gotten into them yet. The Spacious Mind is a pretty cool group with a great psych sound, though they're kind of a one-trick pony as I recall. Can't remember the name of the one I have, but it's not the one on your list. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 09:02
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I am going to have to go with Other. ------------- 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 09:09
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That's not an option.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 09:16
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Unfortunately, it is the best I can do at this point as I am unfamiliar with all of these options, yet again. -------------
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 09:17
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I'm in that same boat too. I'm abstaining for now.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 10:24
This is my favourite Potemkine album and a top three from this list. There are four brothers involved with this band surprisingly. Their influences were Magma, Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra and more. They opened for Magma many times back in the day. 4.5 stars in my opinion. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 10:38
What an interesting instrument that hurdy-gurdy is eh ? Sounding like violins one moment then like spacey synths and it can drone the sounds too. Zaar came out of the ashes of Sotos another killer band from France that will be on the next poll. By the way Bob Drake recorded and mixed this Zaar album. Interesting your thoughts on Ruins. I know your a big fan but like the title says this is Symphonic but man if this is Symphonic i'd call it deranged Symphonic.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 10:44
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 12:36
His first solo album but not released first. Gotta love that 30 minute epic, in fact that's what makes this a 4 star album for me. It's his only solo record to have mellotron on it(it's on the 30 minute track only). ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 12:42
Yeah that long 30 minute track is where we also get some guest drums and bass while the rest of the album is Pinhas alone. I guess this record was inspired by the book "Dune" which is one of his favs. Well i must admit i'm not big on the frenzied and fast pace of a lot of Japanese bands. Which is why i got this one because it's tamer. I have a hard time with Korekyojinn as well.  I love Spacious Mind and on paper this should have been my vote but i couldn't let Prosper go without one so...anyway this particular Spacious Mind album has some incredible guitar in it, so emotional. You might have Cosmic Minds At Play which i great too. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 12:43
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 12:52
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Prosper all the way!!!!
Perhaps one of the best albums to get oneself introduced to Krautrock methinks. Love that one. S'got a little of everything: fusion, acoustic work akin to Popol Vuh, wild fiery space rock, hard n heavy orchestrated sweaty rock and just the right amount of experimentation. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 12:54
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 13:01
You really do Steve. I think you will lap it up like a ferocious kitten. One of those albums that changes with every spin. Not that it takes long to 'get', but it changes according to what you decide to listen for. I guess you could say that about almost any other record, I know, but on here the different parts of the equation all seem equally interesting. Today for example, I find myself more attracted to the quieter and more subtle parts of the album. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 13:02
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 14:57
About 2 hours ago i started to post on Prosper but it has been freaking busy in here today. But i'm glad Guldbamsen has given his 2 cents because he explains things so well. I gave this 5 stars and like David says this isn't a difficult listen by any means but it always seems different when i break it out. Weird ! Prosper's original lineup before they released this album had a bass player who left for WALLENSTEIN and a drummer who left for AERA. Anyway the drummer who is on here reminds me of some of the great Jazz drummers, he's fantastic, and the bass is very upfront. There's mellotron and some guest violin on one track as well. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 15:42
Haven't heard a lot here, but I love my Popul Vuh! 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 18:49
I under estimated how popular Popul Vuh is on here. Lots more albums from them to come of course.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 22:29
Yeah, Bob being involved with the Zaar is even more of a plus. He's a genius. I actually prefer Sotos...I've been trying to find a copy of their debut, it's VERY elusive. As for the Ruins, I know it's still closer to, say, Koenjihyakkei, than to Genesis, but something about it just rubs me wrong since I just want drums and bass and yelling in made up words when I listen to Ruins. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 30 2012 at 02:03
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After relistening I"m going to go for Ruins. Idk...I do enjoy the madness of general Ruins but there is something about Symphonica that rubs me the right way. I think it's the keyboards. I almost wish they did a second album of this. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 30 2012 at 03:11
| I know about half of those. That Prosper album is good but definitely not the best here, also to good mention is the excellent Zaar album which I really like. Anyway my vote goes to the wonderful Xaal, not a perfect album but I really like returning to it every time. Like I said before I wish they had a better recording and mix to their albums. Recommended stuff!! |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 30 2012 at 20:57
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