z.a.r.p.e.k. (G-N) XII
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Topic: z.a.r.p.e.k. (G-N) XII
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Subject: z.a.r.p.e.k. (G-N) XII
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 10:07
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Top four for me are Guapo, Arthur Brown, Guru Guru and Magma. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 10:55
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I picked Guru Guru-i love the groovy, infectious rhythms in Hinten, one of my favorites of the band. A close second would be Kraftwerk 2. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 11:48
That was my pick as well with Guapo's Five Suns the runnerup. Man that Guapo album reminds me so much of Anekdoten at times with that heavy sound and lots of mellotron. Hinten is probably my favourite Guru Guru album despite the disturbing cover.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
presdoug wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 12:02
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Swoooosh! There you go again you mad Canadian! Too much maple syrup my good man?
I am really at a loss here - between Kobaia, Journey, Five Suns, Kraftwerk l and ll, Haikara and Hinten I count at least 4 masterpieces, and disregarding the numbers, a thing like Hinten is able to charm its way right down my trousers! Might have something to do with that fine ass decorating the front cover:  Uhhhmm yummy...I love the krautrock of the first two real Kraftwerk albums(Their first album was called Tone Float but released under a different moniker), I slightly prefer l, but it's close! The opening Ruckzuck is just so wonderfully snarling, aggressive and ultra bizarre in a highly groovy manner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWKfo3LDI1Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWKfo3LDI1Q Kobaia speaks for itself - and it remains one of the most accomplished debut albums outside of NEU!'s imo. I think it's a wonderful release of French fusion, and already here I sense the opening teutonic trades of the zeuhl genre. A thing that I personally feel was a combi9nation of many an artists, who all had their heads full of Coltrane and then managed to cook up something entirely unique. I'll put it this way,I also think of Wakhevitch as zeuhl. He's only rooted in electronic... I love Arthur Brown's Journey. Man do I ever! The somewhat kitschy drum machine is a stroke of genius. A lot of people don't get it, but I do. It is the key to this album, because it lets all of the other ingredients flow freely and much more effervescently. Bubbly indeed! Guapo is a modern recording that mixes RIO, Crimson, dying trees and Henry's cow. Gotta love that album! Incredibly easy to get into as well - especially for newcomers to the more "out-there" music. Haikara is a personal fave. Feels like Finnish Krautrock to me, albeit with a slight fusion tinge to it. Yet again that never stopped the Germans - just look at Exmagma and Embryo. In fact, I hear a lot of Embryo in here - now that I think of it. Alright I'm gonna stop now before I hurt myself  You are the man, John. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 12:04
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Oh and if it wasn't clear, then I'm definitely waiting a bit with my vote I love these records so much and couldn't bear seeing any of them without votes. So I may have to pull off a rescue mission a little later on and send my love to one of the forgotten ones. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 12:46
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Once again this is hard. I'll have to go with Journey, simply because there isn't anything quite like it. Rated it with 5 stars BTW. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 13:55
It's always a pleasure to hear your thoughts on these different albums David  . Although was showing that hairy butt really necessary ?  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 13:58
I gave it 5 stars as well. Love the live version of Time Captives that Hawkwind does with Brown singing on it. Spaced Out In London is the recording that it's on. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:25
Gaupo over Miridor. Sadly, this is my favorite Miriodor album and I wish I could vote for it.  Kobaia is also quite good. I like Hinten as well. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:29
Oh, Kraan's `Andy Nogger' gets my vote, a rough around the edges groovy little charming beast! 
But damn Guru Guru's `Hinten' is one of the first prog related albums I ever bought, and it knocked me out! Shame about that cover, though - YOU try recommending that album to someone to listen to and see the look on their face when they see that front cover! "No, Sir, I don't like it!"
I haven't listened to Kingdom Come's `Journey' in years now, so I'm off to dig my copy out for a spin! Thanks for the idea, John! |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:36
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The Guru Guru album is great other than the album cover. I've also heard Kobaia. I've heard both good and bad things about Guapo, but I've not yet had the chance to check them out. Maybe one of these days. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:41
I'm glad someone voted for Guapo as it's my runnerup here. Man that is one intense album. I guess Nebelnst would be a good comparison for anyone who hasn't heard Five Suns. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:56
If Krautrock was mean't to annoy, disturb and take people out of their comfort zones then the album cover for Hinten is perfect. Charming is a great way to describe Andy Nogger Michael. In the liner notes for that one Kraan state that it was their most popular album back in the day. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 15:06
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I really like the colourful but inconsistent `Let It Out' from Kraan too, even though it kind of hits a slump somewhere in the middle with some inane psychy noodling that seems really out of place on the album!
I passed up the oppurtunity to buy a CD of their 1989 album `Dancing In The Shade' for $15 at a record fair on the weekend, though I've seen it there unloved for about two years now. I think I might grab it next time! |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 15:26
Well Guapo can get pretty experimental although on Five Suns there's not a lot of that. I've only heard this one and Black Oni, the latter of which i had a hard time getting into. Here's a funny story although you had to be there i guess. But at Thanksgiving my Brother in law and his wife were over and he was drinking quite a bit but i wasn't paying a lot of attention because i was having a good time too. Anyway we had the stereo on and he comes over and says "Play Kobaia" as he's weaving forwards and backwards. Anyway i'm thinking to myself "He's wasted !" and tried to explain that the others at the party would not appreciate Magma like we do. I talked to him the next day and he doesn't remember asking me that or even leaving the house. He had to get up at 5am the next morning for work and i did feel sorry for his self inflicted wounds.------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 15:35
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KOBAIA ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 15:57
Love that story John!! Oh boy.... I experience that same sort of feeling each and every time I go and visit one of my old high school buddies. Problem is that he doesn't need to be drunk to say something like that. I seriously doubt if he has any idea of what 'real' people listen to hahah! Take last Easter for instance. We throw this huge get together with all kinds of people, beautiful girls and the works - most of them into modern electronica and perhaps the odd Beatles track. All through dinner this guy continues to put on Bubu's Anabelas!! I sat next to two rather delicious women who had severe problems holding a simple conversation due to the maniacal reeds storming through the room like a drunk mariachi on rollerskates. When they finally asked him to change the music, because they couldn't think, he went ahead and popped on Tago Mago..... Gotta love that hahah!!! Got me dancing at least. Anyway, I don't think he knows how crazy some of the music we listen to sounds like to other people. The only time he did, is when the both of us decided to hold a New Years eve party, and we decided to put Trout Mask Replica on repeat for the entire duration of the cooking process. We had a rack of lamb in the oven for some 3.5 hours. He didn't know the good captain, but boy did he ever get acquainted with him! That, he found crazy, and he even mentioned something about changing the music before our guests arrived.... I changed it after the fourth guest. Gotta have some fun right? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 15:57
Wow i had to look that one(Dancing in the Shade) up because i didn't recognise it. Let it Out is excellent. I related in my review how popular Kraan were in Germany at this time. In the "Sounds" magazine the Live Kraan and Let It Out both released in 1975 were voted number one and two respectively and they were voted best live act over Genesis, The Who, Jethro Tull and Santana. And they were voted favourite band over Can, Passport, Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 16:00
First vote for Kobaia . I thought they'd be leading this one.------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 16:12
Why do i never get an invite to these parties of yours ? And who said you could change your avatar !!
Man i'd love to be at a party where all that was played was albums from the zarpek genres. It would be a blast just wondering what was coming on next. Great stories there David. Hey maybe i need to play Troutmask Replica over and over for a few hours to finally appreciate it.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 16:17
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 16:20
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 16:28
Hey we would certainly enjoy having you! Maybe the next time we can meet halfway or something eh? I guess that is Greenland hahah! What a blast! Icebergs, polar bears, Danish beer, a little Buddha and some Bubu. I'll get on it straight away! Trout Mask Replica is a lot easier to get into, when you first start to hear patterns reemerging from the tracks - even if they're divided by several cuts. Although knowing your tastes John, maybe this one just isn't for you? I am however willing to perform a brainwash on you for the sake of experimentation ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 16:36
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Oh, and I just needed to change avatar. If it's any consolation, it's also a painting by Max Ernst. I'd like to think that he paints similarly to the way I talk... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 19:06
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Magma without a doubt! Mind you I of course haven't listened to every single album on that list, but Kobaia is the album that started all that Zeuhl madness.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 20:46
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I'll give the first Kraftwerk a vote. Lots of great albums on here, many have been favorites at one point or another, but as others have said, most specifically Ruckzuck is such a catchy tune!
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 06 2012 at 01:58
Yes there are several versions of that song on that tour with Brown on vocals. There's a different mellower version where the keys somewhat takes the back seat and the guitar takes the lead. Excellent version, it works really well. Look it up on the tube. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 06 2012 at 01:59
Yes they are singing "Time Captains". "Time captains We synthesise the rays powering your brain" |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 06 2012 at 02:18
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^I don't know Sagi - I've always heard Captives... Then again, Arthur weren't exactly the poster boy for sober performances - and those taps of acid may just've kicked in while recording this magnificent track ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 08 2012 at 02:45
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Gave Haikara some love. Breaks my heart seeing Kraftwerk ll without any votes though. Come on people, it's got KlingKlang!!!!! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 08 2012 at 15:56
Doug said it was his runnerup but yeah all of these deserve a vote. Magma takes this poll. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 11:47
| The one I'm not that familiar with is the Haikara. Of the others there's lots to love. but since Kobaia is my favourite album by one of my very favourite bands, it's a fairly straight-forward choice. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 18:01
| Haikara's self titled album is one of my all time favorites, so it easily gets my vote. |