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Topic: What 70s prog albums should I buy?Posted By: zeqexes
Subject: What 70s prog albums should I buy?
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 05:49
I've recently been getting into prog from the 70s (up until this year I only listened to stuff from the last couple of decades). I've been planning to get Selling England by the Pound by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. What are some other good ones?
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Replies: Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 05:54
Well, you did good with Yes - along with Close to the Edge, my other favorites of theirs are Relayer and Fragile. Something by Kansas would be good - their most classic and one of my favorites as well is Leftoverature. Definitely something by Emerson Lake & Palmer - maybe Tarkus or Brain Salad Surgery. And something by Jethro Tull - my favorites have always been Thick As A Brick and Passion Play, because I really love epics. But you might decide to go with something like Aqualung instead.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 06:22
It depends, what style of prog you seem to like better?
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 06:24
^ I've listened to lots of Selling England by the Pound - and I love it (especially Firth of Fifth). I seem to like everything that I've come across (Yes, Genesis, ELP, Jethro Tull, etc).
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 06:25
^Yea, what kind of modern prog have you been listening to? That will help with recommendations.
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 06:27
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 07:25
As starters King Crimson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9IQnDRYIYU" rel="nofollow - Red and Van Der Graaf Generator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA9CE_BsB74" rel="nofollow - H To He Who Am The Only One should fit your preferences perfectly.
And probably Camel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWGjT-XV6g" rel="nofollow - Mirage Premiata Forneria Marconi(PFM)'s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDrXZVMawzE" rel="nofollow - two first . Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uXxtsEC5ig" rel="nofollow - Darwin!
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 07:53
This is a list of albums from my collection that I think are all excellent, those in bold I particularly recommend to get first. This covers albums from most of the sub genres.
Genesis- Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering Pink Floyd- Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall 801- 801Live Alan Sorrenti- Aria Amon Duul II- Yeti Ange- Le Cemetiere des Arlequins, Au Dela Du Delire Area- Caution Radiation Area Art Zoyd- Symphonie Pour Le Jour Ou Bruleront Les Citie, Musique Pour L'Odyssee Audience- The House on the Hill Bacamarte- Depois do Fim (from the 80's but sounds like it came fromthe 70's) Banco Del Mutuo Succorso- Banco Del Mutuo Succorso, Darwin!, Io Sono Nato Libero Bill Bruford- One of a Kind Billy Cobham- Spectrum Black Widow-Sacrifice Brand X- Unorthodox Behaviour Bubu-Anabelas Caravan- Caravan and the New Symphonia, Waterloo Lilly Colosseum- Valentyne Suite Comus- First Utterance Curved Air- Air Conditioning, Second Album, Phantasmagoria East of Eden- Mercator Projected Egg- The Polite Force Eloy- Ocean, Planets Focus- Hamburger Concerto Frank Zappa- Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo Gnidrolog- In Spite of Harry's Toenail, Lady Lake Goblin- Roller Gong- Flying Teapot, Angels Egg, You, Shamal Gryphon- Red Queen to Gryphon Three Hatfield and the North- Hatfield and the North, The Rotters Club Il Balletto Di Bronzo- Ys Jan Dukes de Grey- Mice and Rats in the Loft Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick, Minstrel in the Gallery Khan- Space Shanty King Crimson- In the Court of the Crimson King, Island, Larks Tongues' in Aspic, Red, everything else Le Orme- Uoma di Pezza, Felona e Sorona Locanda Della Fate- Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu Mahavishnu Orchestra- Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire Manfred Mann's Earth Band- Nightingales and Bombers Matching Mole- Little Red Record Museo Rosenbach- Zarathustra National Health- Of Queues and Cures Novalsi- Novalis Os Mutantes- O A eo Z Osanna- Palepoli Pavlov's Dog- Pamperd Menial The Pentangle- Basket of Light PFM- Storia di un Minuto, Per un Amico, L'Isola di Niente, Chocolate Kings Quella Vecchia Locanda- Quella Vecchia Locanda, Il Tempo Della Gioia Quiet Sun- Mainstream Renaissance- Turn of the Cards, A Song for All Seasons, Scheherazade and Other Stories, Prologue, Novella, Live at Carnagie Hall Return to Forever- Romantic Warrior Robert Wyatt- Rock Bottom Samla Mammas Mama- Maltid Semiramis- Dedicato e Frazz Soft Machine- The Soft Machine, Vol 2, Third, Fourth Steve Hackett- Voyage of the Acolyte Steve Hillage- Fish Rising Supersister- Present From Nancy Todd Rundgren's Utopia- Utopia UK- UK Universe Zero- Heresie Van der Graaf Generator- The Least We can do is Wave to Each Other; H to He, Who am the Only One; Pawn Hearts, Godbluff, Still Life, World Record Weather Report- Black Market, Heavy Weather
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 08:19
^^
Good beginners' list
Interesting that you took Waterloo Lily from Caravan in your list.
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 10:48
Finch.........any album
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 10:49
I'm glad to be the first one to say this but RUSH!! and one is not enough!
Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 11:04
I!m guessing that you will need a small fortune to buy all these thngs! But allow me to say my oppinion as well... I will add a few records to the 'sleepers' list: From Eloy I definetively suggest: Power & Passion, Dawn and Ocean. From Manfred Mann's Earth Band: Solar Fire From Caravan: In the land of grey & pink From Jethro Tull: Aqualung (Yes, maybe some of us are kind of bored of it, but it is an excellent album!) And also: Barclay James Harvest: Live (1974), Everyone is everybody else The Moody Blues: Days of Future Passed Procol Harum: Live with the Edmonton orchestra, Grand hotel And yes I know is not '70's, but I think you should definetly buy Script for a Jester's Tear by Marillion. As for Rush that 'Sagichim' just mentioned, I will suggest you 2112, A farewell to Kings, Moving Pictures (for start)... that's all!
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 12:02
Definitely should've included Rush and Pink Floyd in my list. I think my favorite Rush album is actually Permanent Waves, and you can't go too wrong with Pink Floyd - The Wall, Dark Side of the Moon, Animals, Meddle....
Also, this isn't technically 70's prog, but if you LIKE 70's prog, you should check out The Flower Kings.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 12:13
Lizard, Trespass, ELP's debut, Pawn Hearts, Angel's Egg, Songs From The Wood ...
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 12:14
Apart from before mentioned King Crimson and VdGG, you should try Gentle Giant. But be aware: all 3 bands I mentioned can be very hard to get into. The golden rule is to start from the most accessible, which means symph: Yes, Genesis, Camel, to name a three.
Alright, some of these have been suggested already but I'll second/third/fourth them...
King Crimson - Red
Rush - Hemispheres
Pink Floyd - Animals
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
Genesis - Foxtrot
Yes - The Yes Album
Kansas - Song For America
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Trilogy
I think bands like Gentle Giant and Van Der Graff Generator might be a bit too 'weird' to get into yet; try those bands above first.
Thats a good solid list
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 15:59
I have nothing to add except that all the recommendations have been great so far. Start anywhere on the prior page and you're bound to be pleased.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 16:11
^ seconded!
Also AtomicCrimsonRush has a blog with a thousand albums reviewed and generally recommended - seeking to give you the ultimate prog rock guide. A pretty good place to start with.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 16:18
Moogtron III wrote:
^^
Good beginners' list
Interesting that you took Waterloo Lily from Caravan in your list.
Only have three Caravan albums and the one I didnt mention was In the Land of Grey and Pink, which I find imensly dull.
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 16:24
Steely Dan Countdown to Ecstasy
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 16:26
Ok. So we're naming names are we?
.......... Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys
And of course Soft Machine - vol 2, COS - Viva Boma, Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising, Can - Future Days, Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri, Heldon - Stand By, Herbie Hancock & Mwandishi - Sextant, Premiata Forneria Marconi - L'Isola di Niente, Comus - First Utterance, Klaus Schulze - Blackdance, Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric, Far East Family Band - Parallel World, NEU! - S/T, Supersister - Pudding en Gisteren.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 17:14
There is so much great material from the 70s, a literal gold mine. Some great things have been already mentioned, but i would also add
Triumvirat-Mediterranean Tales, Illusions On A Double Dimple, and Spartacus The Trip-Atlantide Wallenstein-Blitzkrieg Dirk Steffens-The Seventh Step Dedalus-Dedalus Eloy-Inside Atomic Rooster-In Hearing Of Budgie-Budgie Solution-Divergence Helmut Koellen-You Won't See Me Jail-You Can Help Me Quatermass-Quatermass
there are many more i can think of, but here is a start
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 17:23
Lizard - King Crimson Starless and Bible Black - King Crimson
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 18:06
All I have to say is that this website(PROG ARCHIVES) is pretty accurate when it comes to listing essential prog or who is the most highly rated in the prog universe. I think the 70's revolve around GENESIS, PINK FLOYD, YES and VANGELIS. You really are getting the best with these bands. Trust me. Go explore.
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 18:11
timothy leary wrote:
Finch.........any album
Glad someone said it!! My favorite instrumental band.
Beyond Expression almost seems to me like an instrumental baby from Close To The Edge and Red, but that's just me.
I'd also recommend Stadacone by Sloche, Todd Rundgren's Utopia, and Crime of the Century by (of course) SUPERTRAMP
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 18:35
^ Yes they fly under the radar but their first two albums are gems.
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 18:49
sleeper wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
^^
Good beginners' list
Interesting that you took Waterloo Lily from Caravan in your list.
Only have three Caravan albums and the one I didnt mention was In the Land of Grey and Pink, which I find imensly dull.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 19:00
I would think going with the top 10 albums in the home-page would do nicely, and from there you might want to check the next 10, and depending on what you liked you might want to choose what you want to seek next.
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 22:59
Ok guys - thanks for the suggestions. I've come up with a short list of CDs that I'd like to get:
Close to the Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Fragile
Tarkus
Red
Thick As A Brick
Wish You Were Here
Now to decide which I will buy first...
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 23:06
zeqexes wrote:
Ok guys - thanks for the suggestions. I've come up with a short list of CDs that I'd like to get:
Close to the Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Fragile
Tarkus
Red
Thick As A Brick
Wish You Were Here
Now to decide which I will buy first...
It's a very good list. Get Red first, it is great.
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 23:12
thellama73 wrote:
zeqexes wrote:
Ok guys - thanks for the suggestions. I've come up with a short list of CDs that I'd like to get:
Close to the Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Fragile
Tarkus
Red
Thick As A Brick
Wish You Were Here
Now to decide which I will buy first...
It's a very good list. Get Red first, it is great.
Haha, now I'm probably going to get heaps of people telling me which to get first. I think I'll get one of the first 4 listed first, because both Fragile and Foxtrot are in my local CD store, and I can order CTTE and SEBTP cheap online.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 23:17
^Close to the Edge then. It is the best of the first four.
*ducks to avoid thrown objects from all the Genesis fans*
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 24 2012 at 23:18
I don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but as far as Yes goes, I personally think the Yes Album is better than CttE, Relayer, Fragile, etc. etc. etc.
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 08:19
thellama73 wrote:
zeqexes wrote:
Ok guys - thanks for the suggestions. I've come up with a short list of CDs that I'd like to get:
Close to the Edge
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Fragile
Tarkus
Red
Thick As A Brick
Wish You Were Here
Now to decide which I will buy first...
It's a very good list. Get Red first, it is great.
Play SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND. it'll knock you on your ass! 😝
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 08:22
SaltyJon wrote:
I don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but as far as Yes goes, I personally think the Yes Album is better than CttE, Relayer, Fragile, etc. etc. etc.
I am with the Salty one on this
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 09:17
Get all of them first.
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Posted By: WisdomBeginsInWonder
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 10:44
go with close to the edge
or the soft machine third
but my personal fav. genesis foxtrot
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 11:41
David Sancious & Tone
(Album) Dance of the Age of Enlightenment
(Album) Just As I Thought
(Album) True Stories
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 13:36
Hi,
Sleeper ....
I'm gonna report you for abuse to my wallet!
In general, I do not like to make recomendations ... because things were so different in so many different places, that if you take some of these lists and go for a few of them, you do not learn that other countries also had some awfully nice music ... that you missed!
It's too easy ... to not know that Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, Canada, Sweden, Finland, Holland, Poland, Czechslovakia (sp!), Argentina, Japan, Australia ... and so many other countries ... that also had unreal and far out stuff ... that you will never know, understand or appreciate!
That said ... I am not sure that the "top ten" listed at PA is not a great list ... with the exception (as I said above) that it tends to sound the same or be way too similar for you to get the nuances or the difference!
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 04:45
Ok - today I found SEBTP in a CD shop, and bought it. I just listened to it. I like it - but not really "More Fool Me" or "The Battle of Epping Forest".
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:53
^Pretty much like everyone else.
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:32
zeqexes wrote:
Ok - today I found SEBTP in a CD shop, and bought it. I just listened to it. I like it - but not really "More Fool Me" or "The Battle of Epping Forest".
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Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 07:01
More Fool Me never grows on you. The Battle of Epping Forest does.
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 07:06
I love `More Fool Me' as well, but I sort of agree about `Battle Of Epping Forest'. These days I sometimes seem to skip it. It's got some amazing solos and great playing, but damn it's wordy, and a little campy with the vocals.
So only a minor grumble, it's still a great album! I'm now going to give it a listen at work tomorrow!
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 07:11
I love our new progger. Starting off the 70's well. SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND will grow on you and stay with you for years to come.
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 16:52
Next I think I'll get CttE. Hell, I've already bought 5 albums this month, maybe I should let my wallet rest for a bit
I listened to SEBTP again, and I like MFM and BOEP more than I did the first time.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 18:49
Keep playing it. You'll be an addict soon enough. Welcome to the party pal.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 01:53
hobocamp wrote:
More Fool Me never grows on you. The Battle of Epping Forest does.
The Battle Of Epping Forest has grown less on me the more time goes on. Its a bit of nonsense that goes nowhere and spends far too long going nowhere (imo). ELP get slaughtered for Benny The Bouncer but at least there you only have to 'suffer' for a couple of minutes. (Dancing With The Moonlit Night , Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show are all very wonderful though)
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 02:27
Never understood what people dont like about The Battle of Epping Forest, I love that track.
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 02:36
I think at the moment I probably like BOEF more than The Cinema Show.
Is there something wrong with me?
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 02:47
Horizons wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
^^
Good beginners' list
Interesting that you took Waterloo Lily from Caravan in your list.
Only have three Caravan albums and the one I didnt mention was In the Land of Grey and Pink, which I find imensly dull.
A friend of my thought so too.
Well, the album is a bit laid back, that's true. Nothing really heavy on it.
I love the compositions on it, though.
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 06:21
Ok - I'm in a dilemma. I can either get Fragile for $10 from my local CD store tomorrow, or order Close to the Edge online for $10, and it'll take about a week to arrive. Hardest decision of my life. What should I do?
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 06:29
Zeqexes, you won't go wrong with either album! You decision pretty much is `Do I want a great defining progressive rock album now, or do I want to wait a week for another great defining progressive rock album?' lol!
`Close To The Edge' is my favourite of the two, but `Fragile' is generally full of great stuff too! The jury's still out on Wakeman's `Cans and Brahms' on that album, though!
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 06:56
zeqexes wrote:
I think at the moment I probably like BOEF more than The Cinema Show.
Is there something wrong with me?
Yes. There is. Na na just kidding! 😜 hey man, you like what you like in your own wardrobe...no pun intended. Glad you are enjoying the album. 👌
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 12:37
sleeper wrote:
Never understood what people dont like about The Battle of Epping Forest, I love that track.
It's a song that does not develop itself propperly and drags a lot.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 12:47
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Zeqexes, you won't go wrong with either album! You decision pretty much is `Do I want a great defining progressive rock album now, or do I want to wait a week for another great defining progressive rock album?' lol!
`Close To The Edge' is my favourite of the two, but `Fragile' is generally full of great stuff too! The jury's still out on Wakeman's `Cans and Brahms' on that album, though!
Cans and Brahms is awesome, say me.
I would still probably wait for Close to the Edge though.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 13:31
Just buy all of them .......
Or check out http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67406" rel="nofollow - this link and work your way down the list.....
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 16:19
Thellama73, I'm probably a little hard on Fragile's `Cans and Brahms', but I'm much more forgiving of it these days! I used to just press `skip' straight away, like a knee-jerk reaction, but these days I just let it play.
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 17:25
^I like it, well, i really like Brahms, so i guess my perspective is slanted.
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 17:37
Is it a good interpretation, Doug? I assumed that classical purists would have really disliked it!
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 17:49
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Is it a good interpretation, Doug? I assumed that classical purists would have really disliked it!
Some people strictly classical would have an issue with it, as the music originally was scored for symphony orchestra (It is from the 3rd movement "Scherzo" of Brahm's 4th Symphony) and it is mainly keys that are in the Yes version. Myself, though i prefer the original symphony movement, and i am a classical music person big time, i still can dig the Yes take on it. The music and pacing in the Yes piece are pretty accurate, so yeah, i'd say it is a good interpretation.
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 18:07
Thanks for the info! I've really been too hard on it, especially considering it's so short. Hardly like an album-breaker or anything!
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 19:05
thellama73 wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Zeqexes, you won't go wrong with either album! You decision pretty much is `Do I want a great defining progressive rock album now, or do I want to wait a week for another great defining progressive rock album?' lol!
`Close To The Edge' is my favourite of the two, but `Fragile' is generally full of great stuff too! The jury's still out on Wakeman's `Cans and Brahms' on that album, though!
Cans and Brahms is awesome, say me.I would still probably wait for Close to the Edge though.
I read some time ago that the song "Catherine of Aragon" was originally intended by Wakeman as his song for Fragile, but there was something about the Record companies and their contracts that didn't allow him to write music for Yes... which is a shame, for that song would have made this 5 star masterpiece album into... an even better 5 star masterpiece album.
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 19:13
Wow Dellinger, very interesting! That's from one of the only Wakeman solo albums I truly enjoy all of, so you're right, would have made `Fragile' even better!
I assume if he'd been allowed to include his own original piece, in keeping with the shorter solo pieces scattered throughout `Fragile', it would have been in an edited form, or at least a much shorter arrangement?
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 20:50
I guess this has turned into the YES appreciation thread. Great band and essential prog of the 70's era for sure. No too many better.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 20:58
Progbethyname! I was worried about that, so time to turn this train around! Zeqexes, go ahead and buy either of those two albums! You can't go wrong with either...and start planning on your next album/band that isn't Yes!
As for a recommendation - how about the highly regarded `Camel - Moonmadness'?
You mentioned in your original post that up until now you'd only been listening to more modern stuff, why don't you tell us which modern prog artists/albums you've been listening to, and we can suggest 70's albums that might appeal to you along the lines of your current listens?
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 21:36
Ok - I had a look around in my local CD store today - and it turns out they actually have a lot! All of the bands like ELP, Jethro Tull and King Crimson were in the 'popular' section. I was going to get Fragile, but someone must have bought it since I had been there last. I ended up getting Thick As a Brick, I'll listen to it later today.
Aussie-Byrd-Brother, you'll see that at the start of this whole thread, I mention modern bands and artists that I like, but I'll recap for you.
I'm big fans of all of these artists: DT, Porcupine Tree, Steven Wilson, Opeth, Neal Morse, Transatlantic, Haken, and even some Nightwish.
I think you sort of don't need to suggest anything right now, I've got a small list of 70s albums to get, and another list of modern albums to get. But all the same, recommendations are always good.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 22:08
No, not a problem, mate, you've clearly been pointed in the right direction and are sure to pick up some fine albums! Happy hunting!
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 22:33
Fragile has filler in it, so i would advise to buy The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, Time and a Word, or Going for the One instead.
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Posted By: Zargasheth
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 22:46
On the other hand, many people (myself included) consider the filler to be very good. (Although I must admit I'm no fan of Cans and Brahms either.)
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 23:58
zeqexes wrote:
Ok - I had a look around in my local CD store today - and it turns out they actually have a lot! All of the bands like ELP, Jethro Tull and King Crimson were in the 'popular' section. I was going to get Fragile, but someone must have bought it since I had been there last. I ended up getting Thick As a Brick, I'll listen to it later today.
Aussie-Byrd-Brother, you'll see that at the start of this whole thread, I mention modern bands and artists that I like, but I'll recap for you.
I'm big fans of all of these artists: DT, Porcupine Tree, Steven Wilson, Opeth, Neal Morse, Transatlantic, Haken, and even some Nightwish.
I think you sort of don't need to suggest anything right now, I've got a small list of 70s albums to get, and another list of modern albums to get. But all the same, recommendations are always good.
Tangerine Dream is another fine artist of the entire 70's era. Albums like PHEADRA and RUBYCON are just insanely good. They'll help broaden your sound scope for sure. Help get you more in touch with electronic Ambience type sound. 😉
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: September 28 2012 at 00:15
I'll give you a recommendation that is typically overlooked. Jade warrior "Released" and/or Jade Warrior "Last Autumn's Dream. The band never caught on, I think because of lack of support from the record company they were signed to. But they have all the musicianship, symphonic qualities, dynamic contrast, and pent up aggression as the best of the era, yet still unique as one of the first bands, for instance, to experiment with World Music. Throw in lyrics with "dragon kings" and "circle of orientation spells" and they're nice way enter the era.
BTW, I love the Battle of Epping Forest, hilarious. When it comes to Firth of Fifth I absolutely adore the guitar solo, but care very little for any of the rest of it. I found I was able to enjoy More Fool Me when I entered my forties. Excessive maturity required.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 30 2012 at 12:17
progbethyname wrote:
I love our new progger. Starting off the 70's well. SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND will grow on you and stay with you for years to come.
That's already 2nd generation of the early prog ... but it shows you how much people can not listen to the strange and weird things that helped Eno put his stamp on this album as well on Side 3.
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Posted By: lmaorofllollmao
Date Posted: September 30 2012 at 12:43
SYMPHONIC PROG: Yes, Genesis, Rennesaince, Camel CANTERBURY SCENE: Kahn, Caravan, The Soft Machine, Gong RIO/AVANTE while centered around more the 60s, Frank Zappa PROGRESSIVE ELECTRONIC: Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk SPACE ROCK: Pink Floyd CROSSOVER PROG: Kevin Gilbert, Mike Oldfield, Supertramp, The Moody Blues ECLECTIC PROG: Peter Hammil, Steve Hackett, Van Derr Graff Generator, King Crimson, Gentle Giant HEAVY PROG: Rush, Uriah Heep KRAUTROCK: Can, Popol Vuh PROG FOLK: Jethro tull ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO: Premiata Forneria Marcorni, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, Area ZHEUL: Dun, Magma
is that enough? :3
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 18:24
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Wow Dellinger, very interesting! That's from one of the only Wakeman solo albums I truly enjoy all of, so you're right, would have made `Fragile' even better!
I assume if he'd been allowed to include his own original piece, in keeping with the shorter solo pieces scattered throughout `Fragile', it would have been in an edited form, or at least a much shorter arrangement?
I would hope not... but it's all hypothetical anyway. If you check the line-ups for each song on 6 wives, you'll notice that Catherine of Aragon is basically played by Yes, only without Anderson, and add female backing vocals and some other guy for extra guitars or percussions, or something.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 18:25
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Progbethyname! I was worried about that, so time to turn this train around! Zeqexes, go ahead and buy either of those two albums! You can't go wrong with either...and start planning on your next album/band that isn't Yes!
As for a recommendation - how about the highly regarded `Camel - Moonmadness'?
You mentioned in your original post that up until now you'd only been listening to more modern stuff, why don't you tell us which modern prog artists/albums you've been listening to, and we can suggest 70's albums that might appeal to you along the lines of your current listens?
Actually, for Camel albums, I prefer Mirage. That was the first I got and really love it.
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 18:44
Dellinger wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
As for a recommendation - how about the highly regarded `Camel - Moonmadness'?
stens?
Actually, for Camel albums, I prefer Mirage. That was the first I got and really love it.
Ha! Well `Moonmadness' was the first Camel album I heard, so probably why we have such strong feelings towards those specific albums!
A friend of mine started getting into Camel about a year ago, and I told him that any of their albums from the self-titled debut up to about `Rain Dances' are all first-rate albums. He REALLY liked `Mirage' too, and to be honest, I think he was let down by the mellow and `dreamy' style on `Moonmadness' by comparison to the guitar-heavy `Mirage'!
But in keeping with this thread topic, ANY of the 70's Camel albums up until `Rain Dances' would be great purchases!
Posted By: tvstrategies
Date Posted: October 05 2012 at 19:50
If we're talking purely '70s Prog? I'd say (not in order necessarily):
Yes Fragile, Close ot the Edge. Relayer as well, if it didnt have that one offkey note in Sound Chaser (which is like that one note at the end of Saint-Saλns Organ Symphony that every orchestra seems to miss)
King Crimson Islands, Lark's Tongue, and Starless are great back to back. (all of the 40-yr Steve Wilson K.C. re-masters are great)
Emerson Lake & Palmer 1st album (this one has real purity)
Gentle Giant Free Hand (or Power or Glass House)
Genesis Foxtrot, Selling England
Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick, Minstrel
Moody Blues On the Threshold of a Dream (yes, the Moody Blues ,get over it)
Frank Zappa - one Size Fits All
Ambrosia - 1st (entitled Ambrosia)
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Also, I have a couple of lists posted on Amazon Listmania... They are not all prog, not even all rock. But hey. maybe you'll find something new here. I like them anyway
See: http://www.amazon.com/lm/1BEI849ZSI1AN
and a lot of '60s music that many people think was from the '70s http://www.amazon.com/lm/R8N8D7RW9DQSX
Signed... - A guy who was in college in the early '70s.
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: October 06 2012 at 23:50
zeqexes wrote:
I've recently been getting into prog from the 70s (up until this year I only listened to stuff from the last couple of decades). I've been planning to get Selling England by the Pound by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. What are some other good ones?
Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson: 1970-1977 > Get them ALL...
Posted By: cryptist
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 17:41
Definitely " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remember_the_Future" rel="nofollow - Remember the Future " from Nektar!
In fact any stuff prog-related from 1973 :))
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 18:00
prog4evr wrote:
zeqexes wrote:
I've recently been getting into prog from the 70s (up until this year I only listened to stuff from the last couple of decades). I've been planning to get Selling England by the Pound by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. What are some other good ones?
Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson: 1970-1977 > Get them ALL...
Even since 1969, or else Court of the Crimson King would be missing.
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: October 11 2012 at 22:48
Dellinger wrote:
prog4evr wrote:
zeqexes wrote:
I've recently been getting into prog from the 70s (up until this year I only listened to stuff from the last couple of decades). I've been planning to get Selling England by the Pound by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. What are some other good ones?
Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson: 1970-1977 > Get them ALL...
Even since 1969, or else Court of the Crimson King would be missing.
Right you are!
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 11 2012 at 22:55
You know I gotta say YES's CLOSE TO THE EDGE in my opinion way over rated. I think the Genesis album (s.e.b.t.p) is incredible and my guess is that you will have more of an appreciation for that one. Same goes for KING CRIMSON. Better album for sure is in the court of the crimson king. Listen, with YES start with TALES FROM THE TOPOGRAPHIC OCEAN. It's a way better album. You'll get a better feeling towards the band as well
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 15 2012 at 03:13
sleeper wrote:
This is a list of albums from my collection that I think are all excellent, those in bold I particularly recommend to get first. This covers albums from most of the sub genres.
Genesis- Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering, Selling England ny the Pound Pink Floyd- Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall 801- 801Live Alan Sorrenti- Aria Amon Duul II- Yeti Ange- Le Cemetiere des Arlequins, Au Dela Du Delire Area- Caution Radiation Area Art Zoyd- Symphonie Pour Le Jour Ou Bruleront Les Citie, Musique Pour L'Odyssee Audience- The House on the Hill Bacamarte- Depois do Fim (from the 80's but sounds like it came fromthe 70's) Banco Del Mutuo Succorso- Banco Del Mutuo Succorso, Darwin!, Io Sono Nato Libero Bill Bruford- One of a Kind Billy Cobham- Spectrum Black Widow-Sacrifice Brand X- Unorthodox Behaviour Bubu-Anabelas Caravan- Caravan and the New Symphonia, Waterloo Lilly. In the Land of Pink and Gray Colosseum- Valentyne Suite Comus- First Utterance Curved Air- Air Conditioning, Second Album, Phantasmagoria East of Eden- Mercator Projected Egg- The Polite Force Eloy- Ocean, Planets, Dawn, Colours, Mighty Echoes and Silent Cries, Focus- Hamburger Concerto Frank Zappa- Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo Gnidrolog- In Spite of Harry's Toenail, Lady Lake Goblin- Roller Gong- Flying Teapot, Angels Egg, You, Shamal Gryphon- Red Queen to Gryphon Three Hatfield and the North- Hatfield and the North, The Rotters Club Il Balletto Di Bronzo- Ys Jan Dukes de Grey- Mice and Rats in the Loft Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick, Minstrel in the Gallery Khan- Space Shanty King Crimson- In the Court of the Crimson King, Island, Larks Tongues' in Aspic, Red, everything else Le Orme- Uoma di Pezza, Felona e Sorona Locanda Della Fate- Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu Mahavishnu Orchestra- Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire Manfred Mann's Earth Band- Nightingales and Bombers Matching Mole- Little Red Record Museo Rosenbach- Zarathustra National Health- Of Queues and Cures Novalsi- Novalis Os Mutantes- O A eo Z Osanna- Palepoli Pavlov's Dog- Pamperd Menial The Pentangle- Basket of Light PFM- Storia di un Minuto, Per un Amico, L'Isola di Niente, Chocolate Kings Quella Vecchia Locanda- Quella Vecchia Locanda, Il Tempo Della Gioia Quiet Sun- Mainstream Renaissance- Turn of the Cards, A Song for All Seasons, Scheherazade and Other Stories, Prologue, Novella, Live at Carnagie Hall Return to Forever- Romantic Warrior Robert Wyatt- Rock Bottom Samla Mammas Mama- Maltid Semiramis- Dedicato e Frazz Soft Machine- The Soft Machine, Vol 2, Third, Fourth Steve Hackett- Voyage of the Acolyte Steve Hillage- Fish Rising Supersister- Present From Nancy Todd Rundgren's Utopia- Utopia UK- UK Universe Zero- Heresie Van der Graaf Generator- The Least We can do is Wave to Each Other; H to He, Who am the Only One; Pawn Hearts, Godbluff, Still Life, World Record Weather Report- Black Market, Heavy Weather
Yeah thats pretty much it. Not much missed on this list - But I put in red essential albums you muzt hear and added some that sleeper missed.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 15 2012 at 03:17
Dellinger wrote:
prog4evr wrote:
zeqexes wrote:
I've recently been getting into prog from the 70s (up until this year I only listened to stuff from the last couple of decades). I've been planning to get Selling England by the Pound by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. What are some other good ones?
Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson: 1970-1977 > Get them ALL...
Even since 1969, or else Court of the Crimson King would be missing.
Yeah you cant miss 1969 - some awesome albums there!!!
Those Who Are About To Die Salute You Colosseum
Family Entertainment Family
Near The Beginning Vanilla Fudge
From Genesis To Revelation Genesis
Volume 2 Soft Machine
Tommy The Who
Yes - Yes
Aerosol Grey Machine Van der Graaf Generator
Stand Up - Jethro Tull
Trout Mask Replica Captain Beefheart
In The Court Of The Crimson King King Crimson
Ummagumma Pink Floyd
Joy of a Toy Kevin Ayers
Hot Rats Frank Zappa
Abbey Road The Beatles
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 15 2012 at 07:12
If you combine with a little youtub listning, its a fine guide.
Noone will agree on what is the best, but looking down the list, its not bad.
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Posted By: calm_sea
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 21:13
I'm looking for some "new" 70's prog to get into. I'm well versed in all the big name acts, so something a little more off the map would be good.
A few albums I've been listening to a lot lately (for reference purposes)
Camel - Moonmadness Eloy - Ocean Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night Alphataurus - same Astra - The Black Chord Atomic Rooster - same
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 21:18
All of them because everyone knows no good prog was made after 1979.
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 22:15
pretty much everything by yes, KC, genesis, pink floyd and rush. throw in some camel and you're set. damn if i could rediscover those bands again!
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 00:53
I've been looking at the PA Top-100 albums that I'm not familiar with. Listing to Maxophone right now. Certainly seems a very good lesser known classic!
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 07:54
^ Maxophone is excellent, you may want to try another from RPI, Alphataurus (self titled).
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 08:27
zeqexes wrote:
I think at the moment I probably like BOEF more than The Cinema Show.
Is there something wrong with me?
My least favourite is actually I Know What I Like although I rarely skip any.
If you like Selling England get Foxtrot next. You might also like Steve Hackett's Voyage Of The Accolyte.
Great suggestions most of them but regarding Yes I do not recommend starting with Tales From Topographic Oceans as someone suggested, I personally love it but it's their most unaccessible and controversial 70's album (unless you are really into complex and bold prog).
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 11:52
I feel that PINK FLOYD would be a wonderful staple to get an idea of just how great 70's prog was and still is.
The guitar of Favid Gilmour has still to this day echoed through nearly 40 years of music. You hear remnants of his Guitar in all kinds of prog today, especially with in the neo prog genre.
I say. Enjoy Floyd!!! Get all of their albums from the late 60's to 1979's THE WALL.
IT'S GREAT.
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Posted By: KingKaiser151
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 13:24
Definitely go for the King Crimson! The first four albums are gold. Red is good, but not as good as the others. Also, Caravan's In the Land of the Grey and Pink is amazing!! Also, don't forget Yes's album Fragile. I honestly think its better than Close to the Edge.
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: January 19 2013 at 15:36
Ok guys, so far I have bought these:
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
Genesis - Foxtrot
Yes - Close to the Edge
Yes - Fragile
Yes - Relayer
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
ELP - The Essential ELP
Rush - Hemispheres
If I was to pick my 3 favourites, I'd probably say Close to the Edge, Relayer and Thick As A Brick.
I would have bought at least one King Crimson album by now but everywhere I look, they are overpriced.
In a few days I plan to go to the store and get:
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
Rush - A Farewell to Kings
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 19 2013 at 16:16
zeqexes wrote:
I've recently been getting into prog from the 70s (up until this year I only listened to stuff from the last couple of decades). I've been planning to get Selling England by the Pound by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. What are some other good ones?
Hi Zegexes,
Have a listen to Salisbury plus also Wizards and Demons from Uriah Heep are really good albums.
Salisbury title track is the album's name too and my all time favorite.
The Wizard track from Wizard and Demons album is also really good.
July Morning is timeless, stunning really. Originally from the album Look at Yourself, however if you own none of the UH albums my suggestion would be in terms of best value for money, to get The Best Of Uriah Heep album, which inc. July Morning, The Wizard, Gypsy and Bird of Prey (all these fantastic tracks) their most explosive fantastic track that is not on there tho' which is Salisbury.
P.S. Salisbury has only ever been performed twice live by the band.
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 19 2013 at 16:24