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Topic: The (Factually) Greatest DrummerPosted By: dtguitarfan
Subject: The (Factually) Greatest Drummer
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 06:40
So I found out (surprised I hadn't heard of this until now) why people around here have all the DT hate - it's jealousy, man! You just can't stand that they have THE (FACTUALLY) Greatest Drummer alive! (Queue the "well so and so is more 'tasteful'" comment bs, heh heh)
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Replies: Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 06:46
I love DT , but prefer Portnoy!!!
And my favourite bit of drumming - listen to Alan White - Live on Yesshows - gates of delerium (especially the musical break.battle section) - nobody could have drummed that better...listen to it and if you like drumming YOU'LL LOVE THAT....
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:02
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:09
Because music is a sport.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:09
M27Barney wrote:
I love DT , but prefer Portnoy!!!
And my favourite bit of drumming - listen to Alan White - Live on Yesshows - gates of delerium (especially the musical break.battle section) - nobody could have drummed that better...listen to it and if you like drumming YOU'LL LOVE THAT....
Dude...I wasn't born yesterday. I have heard many, many versions of "Gates of Delirium", and yes, I do consider it one of the greatest prog compositions.
By the way - while I do personally think Mangini is the greatest drummer alive (after seeing him live and having to reattach my jaw many times throughout the show), there is some tongue in cheek and teasing going on here. Hence the winkity winks.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:10
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:11
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Because music is purely analytical.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:21
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Because music is purely analytical.
Because music should be painfully repetitive....
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:29
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Because music is purely analytical.
Because music should be painfully repetitive....
I'm not going to bother with you anymore.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:30
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Because music is purely analytical.
Because music should be painfully repetitive....
I'm not going to bother with you anymore.
Good idea. There's no reasoning with people who think music is about technique and nothing else.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:32
thellama73 wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Because music is purely analytical.
Because music should be painfully repetitive....
I'm not going to bother with you anymore.
Good idea. There's no reasoning with people who think music is about technique and nothing else.
...there's no reasoning with people who think technique doesn't matter....
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:35
cute
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:35
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:40
Snow Dog wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Because music is a sport.
Nah, music should be in 4/4 all the time and never do anything interesting or unusual....
Because music is purely analytical.
Because music should be painfully repetitive....
I'm not going to bother with you anymore.
Good idea. There's no reasoning with people who think music is about technique and nothing else.
...there's no reasoning with people who think technique doesn't matter....
You are putting words in peoples mouths.
Haha, that's what the whole above conversation is! I'm enjoying it, personally. I have ceased to care - see the "Raters Who Suck" thread: I had a catharsis when I realized that NO ONE is reasonable when it comes to music, and the only thing anyone here is doing is stating how much they enjoy a piece of music or not. Oh, people pretend it's more than that, but if you really think about it (I mean, in the sense of not trying to prove what your gut came up with through your head), you'll realize that measuring enjoyment is the only thing ANYONE can do when it comes to music. Now, I do with people thought more about WHY they enjoyed or didn't enjoy music more, as when I have done this it's often changed what I enjoyed or didn't enjoy....
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:52
dtguitarfan wrote:
there is some tongue in cheek and teasing going on here. Hence the winkity winks.
Dream Theatre fans going on and on and on about how Dream Theatre are disrespected around here is really repetitive and really uninteresting. Not unlike a Dream Theatre album.
oh yeah....
see, all better now.
Note: post spell-checked using http:////www.iespell.com/" rel="nofollow - ieSpell .
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 07:58
Dean wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
there is some tongue in cheek and teasing going on here. Hence the winkity winks.
Dream TheatER haters going on and on and on about how Dream TheatER suck and how other bands are more enjoyable because they are more "tasteful" around here is really repetitive and really uninteresting.
See, all better now...
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:03
^Even a patriotic American like me finds such jingoistic spelling complaints annoying. Let the man adhere to the traditions of his native land!
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:13
thellama73 wrote:
^Even a patriotic American like me finds such jingoistic spelling complaints annoying. Let the man adhere to the traditions of his native land!
OK...so, I can start calling groups "The Beetles", "Lead Zeppelin", and "Leonard Skynard"?
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:15
Dream Theater are a very popular rock band. Their fans are great in number. Their drummer has strong skills on his instrument. They make lots of albums.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:17
HolyMoly wrote:
Dream Theater are a very popular rock band. Their fans are great in number. Their drummer has strong skills on his instrument. They make lots of albums.
LOL.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:24
dtguitarfan wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
^Even a patriotic American like me finds such jingoistic spelling complaints annoying. Let the man adhere to the traditions of his native land!
OK...so, I can start calling groups "The Beetles", "Lead Zeppelin", and "Leonard Skynard"?
Sure.
Don't forget Van der Graaff Generator.
And be sure to use Googol instead of Google - we've suffered Larry Page's spelling mistake long enough.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:25
dtguitarfan wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
^Even a patriotic American like me finds such jingoistic spelling complaints annoying. Let the man adhere to the traditions of his native land!
OK...so, I can start calling groups "The Beetles", "Lead Zeppelin", and "Leonard Skynard"?
Sure, if you like.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:28
I like Prague rock.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:29
HolyMoly wrote:
I like Prague rock.
The CheckCheque Czech is in the post.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:30
HolyMoly wrote:
I like Prague rock.
In that case, I know some good bands you should Czech out.
Edit: Dammit, ninja'd
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:32
Well played, both of you.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:34
If only we knew a drummer that could do a passable badum tish.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:37
This thread is now officially highlarious.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:41
I think we've found a new way to com-Munich-cate.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:44
HolyMoly wrote:
I think we've found a new way to com-Munich-cate.
It would be a lot easier if dtguitarfan would stop being such a Buda-pest.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 08:54
thellama73 wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
I think we've found a new way to com-Munich-cate.
It would be a lot easier if dtguitarfan would stop being such a Buda-pest.
What a gulla-bull. What a nin-cow-poop.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:20
Dean wrote:
If only we knew a drummer that could do a passable badum tish.
Mangini could, but it would be so fast you wouldn't be able to hear it.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:22
dtguitarfan wrote:
So I found out (surprised I hadn't heard of this until now) why people around here have all the DT hate - it's jealousy, man! You just can't stand that they have THE (FACTUALLY) Greatest Drummer alive!
This is the most hilarious post here.
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:23
He is fast. Was he in a band before DT?
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:25
HolyMoly wrote:
He is fast. Was he in a band before DT?
He was. It was called Extreme, but I never really got into them. I keep meaning to listen to a whole album all the way through, but haven't ever done so.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:30
Wake me up when BaldFriede sees this thread.
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:31
dtguitarfan wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
He is fast. Was he in a band before DT?
He was. It was called Extreme, but I never really got into them. I keep meaning to listen to a whole album all the way through, but haven't ever done so.
Extreme.... Not the Gary Cherone band?
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:35
HolyMoly wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
He is fast. Was he in a band before DT?
He was. It was called Extreme, but I never really got into them. I keep meaning to listen to a whole album all the way through, but haven't ever done so.
Extreme.... Not the Gary Cherone band?
Yes, it is, actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_(band)
EDIT: He's also been in a band called Annihilator and another band called Tribe of Judah.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:58
Snow Dog wrote:
Interesting that you equate speed with greatness.
A lot of nastiness, this thread has, but I do think SnowDog summed it best.
DTGuitarDude, I am honestly thrilled you enjoy Dream TheatRE so much, for me it is the music of YES.
For my part here I will offer a quote:
"In order for progressive music to excel and have a new generation of listeners, I think the melodic, thematic development of which ever piece is used as the main vehicle has to be distinctive and memorable. It’s all well and good to be technical and fast all the time, but I think a lot of it after a while just washes over you."
So much for all the little speed runs your guitarist and drummer do. Eddie Van Halen did the speed thing decades ago
but with soul & composition. Al Dimeola did the speed thing, but flatpicking each note, not using two hand tricks that any guitarist who plays for more than one year can easily do. Oh that Euro dude, Yngwie also did the speed thing decades ago...
You think DT is the best band in the world, God Bless You. I think Three Dog Night was the best band in the world, but I keep that to myself(for good reason).
.....Oh by the way, the quote above is Keith Emerson, perhaps you have heard of him?
I believe the Brits would say: "Game, set & match!"
Cheers!
DM
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:04
I'm quite taken by the thought of getting Portnoy, Mangini, White, Bruford, Collins, Harrison, Bozzio, Peart, Palmer and Mason in a room and asking them to play a badum tish.
"Okay guys, what we need is a straight forward: Ba-Dum... Tish! so, okay, after 4: one... two... thr... what's that? No Mike, you won't be needing the gong for this, oh what! you need it anyway?... okay we'll wait while your drum tech sets it up... yes Carl, the crane has arrived and we'll be setting up your kit shortly... sorry Nick what did you say? yes, I think it is in common time... yes, that is the same as 4/4 time, yes I know it's only three hits but it's still 4/4 time, yes, I know 3 plus 4 is 7 but it's not 7/4 time it's 4/4time... well think of the 4th beat as a rest... pardon Mike? is the gong setup now? Oh, not yet but you want to know what a rest is... okay, guys can you tell Mike what a rest is? .... anyone? ... Terry? ... Gavin? Carl? Mike? Mike? Alan? Bill surely you... oh, okay so no one then ... it's when you don't hit a anything for a beat... why are you all looking at me like that? ... well yes, of course there's a point to employing a drummer to not hit a drum... yes I do know drums cost a lot of money that doesn't mean you have to hit all of them. Look, while we're waiting for Carl and Mike to have their kits set up can we run through it one more time... " <<twenty minutes later>> "yeah, okay... umm... that was good fellows but maybe just a little on the long side.. just smidgen too many notes perhaps and Neil you know what I'm going to say don't you?... yes way too much cowbell... hang on... can someone give Alan a nudge and wake him up? .... no Bill not like that and certainly not with a mallet, now can you help him back onto his stool please... what's that Terry? ... ah, it's called a throne, that little stool you sit on is called a throne .... okay, no I didn't know that, thank you for that, so would you mind helping Bill pick Alan up and help him to his 'throne'... thank you. Yes Gavin, you wanted to ask something... yes I think Carl is finished with the crane now, what do you want it for? ah right... upside down you say... and why's that? you're fed up with prog and want to audition for Slipknot... well we could try but we're not really equipped for it and I don't think Phil's suspenders are going to be good enough for a harness... hold it just a second would you please... Phil... Phil... erm, excuse me, hey, Phil... PHIL! PHILLIP COLLINS! ... yes, you... could I just stop you there for a minute... yeah you could say there is a slight problem... 'ba-do-diddly-do-bah-pah-pish' isn't quite the same is it... ba-dum tish ... that's it and that's all we want... ba dum tish... no 'do-diddlies' no 'bah-pah-pishes' just ba-dum tish and please Phil this time we'd like you to play it on the drums... please don't sing it again... look, can someone give Alan another nudge? .... no not you Bill, someone else this time... Alan keeps taking your lunch-money... oh not lunch-money, your meal-ticket... yes, if you say so I suppose he does... Okay then, are we all ready? Oh, you'd like a count in Mike, fair enough... can someone count us in... anyone... look someone here must know how to count to 4..."
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:04
dennismoore wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Interesting that you equate speed with greatness.
A lot of nastiness, this thread has, but I do think SnowDog summed it best.
DTGuitarDude, I am honestly thrilled you enjoy Dream TheatRE so much, for me it is the music of YES.
For my part here I will offer a quote:
"In order for progressive music to excel and have a new generation of listeners, I think the melodic, thematic development of which ever piece is used as the main vehicle has to be distinctive and memorable. It’s all well and good to be technical and fast all the time, but I think a lot of it after a while just washes over you."
So much for all the little speed runs your guitarist and drummer do. Eddie Van Halen did the speed thing decades ago
but with soul & composition. Al Dimeola did the speed thing, but flatpicking each note, not using two hand tricks that any guitarist who plays for more than one year can easily do. Oh that Euro dude, Yngwie also did the speed thing decades ago...
You think DT is the best band in the world, God Bless You. I think Three Dog Night was the best band in the world, but I keep that to myself(for good reason).
.....Oh by the way, the quote above is Keith Emerson, perhaps you have heard of him?
I believe the Brits would say: "Game, set & match!"
Cheers!
DM
OF COURSE I'VE HEARD OF KEITH EMERSON! ELP was, as I've said before, the first band I was a fan of (the first band I bought every single cd by). Now, did YOU know that when asked about modern Progressive bands, the first, and only band, Keith Emerson himself mentioned was....(super fast drumroll at 1247 single strikes per minute)...DREAM THEATER?!!! Check it out:
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:07
LOL at Dean's post. I purposely didn't quote it here because I know he'll want to edit it. Not that I think it needs editing.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:11
Dean wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
I like Prague rock.
The CheckCheque Czech is in the post.
Brilliant back to back to back puns, by the way...
Seriously Dean, you mean the Royal Mail? Those retards suck! Stupid, daft twits lost my 2 new ELP 5.1 discs
in the mail, they have to send another package after I already waited for 8 weeks....
Don't you loyal subjects of that old bat you coronated and call "Mum" know where America is?
Or did you loose track after Lord Conwallis had his lunch handed to him back in the 18th century by a bunch
of us underpowered but ever-pesky Yanks!
Well???
And where's my Tarkus 5.1 DVD-Audio disc???
And by the way, Dean:
How ya been my lad??? Please know that my little sharpe edge tete-a tete is just my way of saying I miss
you.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:13
dtguitarfan wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
He is fast. Was he in a band before DT?
He was. It was called Extreme, but I never really got into them. I keep meaning to listen to a whole album all the way through, but haven't ever done so.
I didn't know that. And I always hated Extreme's drumming and their drum sound as well. Said that they still have a lot of great songs especially in their last album.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:33
I'm quite groovy at the moment Dennis, thanks for asking - how the devil are you?
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 11:26
HolyMoly wrote:
LOL at Dean's post. I purposely didn't quote it here because I know he'll want to edit it. Not that I think it needs editing.
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 11:27
Dean wrote:
I'm quite taken by the thought of getting Portnoy, Mangini, White, Bruford, Collins, Harrison, Bozzio, Peart, Palmer and Mason in a room and asking them to play a badum tish.
"Okay guys, what we need is a straight forward: Ba-Dum... Tish! so, okay, after 4: one... two... thr... what's that? No Mike, you won't be needing the gong for this, oh what! you need it anyway?... okay we'll wait while your drum tech sets it up... yes Carl, the crane has arrived and we'll be setting up your kit shortly... sorry Nick what did you say? yes, I think it is in common time... yes, that is the same as 4/4 time, yes I know it's only three hits but it's still 4/4 time, yes, I know 3 plus 4 is 7 but it's not 7/4 time it's 4/4time... well think of the 4th beat as a rest... pardon Mike? is the gong setup now? Oh, not yet but you want to know what a rest is... okay, guys can you tell Mike what a rest is? .... anyone? ... Terry? ... Gavin? Carl? Mike? Mike? Alan? Bill surely you... oh, okay so no one then ... it's when you don't hit a anything for a beat... why are you all looking at me like that? ... well yes, of course there's a point to employing a drummer to not hit a drum... yes I do know drums cost a lot of money that doesn't mean you have to hit all of them. Look, while we're waiting for Carl and Mike to have their kits set up can we run through it one more time... " <<twenty minutes later>> "yeah, okay... umm... that was good fellows but maybe just a little on the long side.. just smidgen too many notes perhaps and Neil you know what I'm going to say don't you?... yes way too much cowbell... hang on... can someone give Alan a nudge and wake him up? .... no Bill not like that and certainly not with a mallet, now can you help him back onto his stool please... what's that Terry? ... ah, it's called a throne, that little stool you sit on is called a throne .... okay, no I didn't know that, thank you for that, so would you mind helping Bill pick Alan up and help him to his 'throne'... thank you. Yes Gavin, you wanted to ask something... yes I think Carl is finished with the crane now, what do you want it for? ah right... upside down you say... and why's that? you're fed up with prog and want to audition for Slipknot... well we could try but we're not really equipped for it and I don't think Phil's suspenders are going to be good enough for a harness... hold it just a second would you please... Phil... Phil... erm, excuse me, hey, Phil... PHIL! PHILLIP COLLINS! ... yes, you... could I just stop you there for a minute... yeah you could say there is a slight problem... 'ba-do-diddly-do-bah-pah-pish' isn't quite the same is it... ba-dum tish ... that's it and that's all we want... ba dum tish... no 'do-diddlies' no 'bah-pah-pishes' just ba-dum tish and please Phil this time we'd like you to play it on the drums... please don't sing it again... look, can someone give Alan another nudge? .... no not you Bill, someone else this time... Alan keeps taking your lunch-money... oh not lunch-money, your meal-ticket... yes, if you say so I suppose he does... Okay then, are we all ready? Oh, you'd like a count in Mike, fair enough... can someone count us in... anyone... look someone here must know how to count to 4..."
This is possibly the funniest post I've read on here. Kudos
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 12:50
Dean wrote:
I'm quite groovy at the moment Dennis, thanks for asking - how the devil are you?
I am jolly good my fine friend, but quite frankly I am just trying to ride your coat tails, my head is still spinning after
readking your post about all the great drummmers geting together. I did in fact work in the media for twenty years,
and I will be cashing in every chip I may have earned by having my old mates disect & interpret what you just wrote.
It may take years, I'm afraid, but the early feeback is that it is truly groundbreaking if not highly alarming.
I just had a birthday & I have a treasure for a toddler daughter so life could not be better for me. PLUS I have the 5.1
ELP 1st two albums coming my way so I know I am now in Heaven!
Keep these jokers around here(the whole forum) in line, ok?
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:10
dtguitarfan wrote:
OF COURSE I'VE HEARD OF KEITH EMERSON! ELP was, as I've said before, the first band I was a fan of (the first band I bought every single cd by). Now, did YOU know that when asked about modern Progressive bands, the first, and only band, Keith Emerson himself mentioned was....(super fast drumroll at 1247 single strikes per minute)...DREAM THEATER?!!! Check it out:
Hmm, at first I was worried that you got me.... But then I saw that was the same article I was quoting to you.
Keith says he like Jordan Rudess. All he says about the band is how loud they were and how they affected his lower
G.I. tract. Plus JR gave him free seats in the front so he had to say something nice. AND lets not forget JR left the band cause he was sick all all the redundant single note stacatto over-playing in EVERY song., leaving him no room to play. In addition this ties into the speed guitar & drumming thing. An artist can only do that when the rest of the music is doing nothing but pure repetition of a beat or note. Listen to Joe Satriano solo over mindless one note 4/4 thumping and then listen to how Eric Johnson improvises over actual song structures... Any musician can ramble over a foundation of one note in a repetitive patern. How does an artist play when others are actually playing as well? Its called harmony & melody interaction.
Ok, enough, I don't wanna bash your favorite band, I quoted Emerson, you quoted Emerson, nice return of service.
(Same exact article.)
I need to go check and see if my ELP records arrived yet.....
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:12
Padraic wrote:
Wake me up when BaldFriede sees this thread.
Awesome....I was thinking the same thing as I got thru half this thread........LOL!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:24
dennismoore wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
OF COURSE I'VE HEARD OF KEITH EMERSON! ELP was, as I've said before, the first band I was a fan of (the first band I bought every single cd by). Now, did YOU know that when asked about modern Progressive bands, the first, and only band, Keith Emerson himself mentioned was....(super fast drumroll at 1247 single strikes per minute)...DREAM THEATER?!!! Check it out:
Hmm, at first I was worried that you got me.... But then I saw that was the same article I was quoting to you.
Keith says he like Jordan Rudess. All he says about the band is how loud they were and how they affected his lower
G.I. tract. Plus JR gave him free seats in the front so he had to say something nice. AND lets not forget JR left the band cause he was sick all all the redundant single note stacatto over-playing in EVERY song., leaving him no room to play. In addition this ties into the speed guitar & drumming thing. An artist can only do that when the rest of the music is doing nothing but pure repetition of a beat or note. Listen to Joe Satriano solo over mindless one note 4/4 thumping and then listen to how Eric Johnson improvises over actual song structures... Any musician can ramble over a foundation of one note in a repetitive patern. How does an artist play when others are actually playing as well? Its called harmony & melody interaction.
Ok, enough, I don't wanna bash your favorite band, I quoted Emerson, you quoted Emerson, nice return of service.
(Same exact article.)
I need to go check and see if my ELP records arrived yet.....
UMMMM...JR left the band? Being one of the biggest DT fans ever, that is news to me...not heard such a piece of news...what does JR stand for in this instance?
Yeah, you're right, Keith is a little vague about whether or not he likes DT, but I do think it's interesting that when asked specifically about modern prog bands, that's the ONLY ONE he mentions...and you say they don't have memorable melodies, I say they do (I could sing you the melody of any one of their songs). To me, just having a memorable melody doesn't cut it - there has to be something interesting behind it. This is why I hate Lady Gag-me (just an example). She does absolutely nothing musically interesting. Whereas a band like DT is not only writing memorable melodies, but they are also doing something interesting with them.
Careful who you insult there, buddy - Joe Satriani actually entertains me to some extent while Eric Johnson has always kind of bored me. But that's ok - you can like Eric and I can like Joe.
In the end, it's all preference. But I just love that I can say that my favorite band has something measurable that shows their drummer is the best.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:40
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:50
In his defense I'm sure I have a bootleg where Phil Collins does a Ba-dum tish! So I think Dean does old baldy a disservice. So I guess that would make him the best drummer.
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:55
akamaisondufromage wrote:
In his defense I'm sure I have a bootleg where Phil Collins does a Ba-dum tish! So I think Dean does old baldy a disservice. So I guess that would make him the best drummer.
Yeah, but Mangini could do 415 Ba-dum-tish's a minute!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:55
*On Genesis Live? Or does my memory do me a disservice?
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:01
dennismoore wrote:
AND lets not forget JR left the band cause he was sick all all the redundant single note stacatto over-playing in EVERY song., leaving him no room to play.
Looking on Dream Theater's page right now, I see nothing about this. I do see an interview with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess on 8/24/2012: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/dream-theater-argentina-20120824" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/dream-theater-argentina-20120824
This would seem to indicate he has NOT left the band because of any fictitious sickness from fictitious redundant single not stacatto over-playing. Ooooh, also, Dream Theater have been reigning as the top seller on Jammit (app that lets you take certain instruments out of a song so that you can play along), and currently hold 8 places out of the top 10 songs: http://www.dreamtheater.net/board_posts/dream-theater-top-selling-on-jammit" rel="nofollow - http://www.dreamtheater.net/board_posts/dream-theater-top-selling-on-jammit
Heh heh...you know what this means...this means that not only do they possess among their ranks THE (factually) best drummer ( ) but they are also THE (factually) most influential band IN THE WORLD because so many people are trying to learn how to play their songs!!!!
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:01
dtguitarfan wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
In his defense I'm sure I have a bootleg where Phil Collins does a Ba-dum tish! So I think Dean does old baldy a disservice. So I guess that would make him the best drummer.
Yeah, but Mangini could do 415 Ba-dum-tish's a minute!
But that wouldn't be funny. Comedy is all about timing.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:01
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:04
thellama73 wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
In his defense I'm sure I have a bootleg where Phil Collins does a Ba-dum tish! So I think Dean does old baldy a disservice. So I guess that would make him the best drummer.
Yeah, but Mangini could do 415 Ba-dum-tish's a minute!
But that wouldn't be funny. Comedy is all about timing.
I would laugh if he did that...
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:05
Snow Dog wrote:
Ha.....I don't have it onm my hard drive
I checked, you're right -- just before "Musical Box".
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:09
HolyMoly wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Ha.....I don't have it onm my hard drive
I checked, you're right -- just before "Musical Box".
There you go then - Phil Collins The (Factually) Best drummer in the World
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:09
akamaisondufromage wrote:
In his defense I'm sure I have a bootleg where Phil Collins does a Ba-dum tish! So I think Dean does old baldy a disservice. So I guess that would make him the best drummer.
Aye - I've seen "The Musical Box" do it live as well - it's to highlight a Gabriel quip I think......
Fine rock drummer twas Philip Collins - WHO TOLD THE FOOKER HE COULD SING !!!!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:11
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:15
Phil Collins can rock my speakers any time, drums or no.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:15
The others?
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:51
Dean wrote:
I'm quite taken by the thought of getting Portnoy, Mangini, White, Bruford, Collins, Harrison, Bozzio, Peart, Palmer and Mason in a room and asking them to play a badum tish.
"Okay guys, what we need is a straight forward: Ba-Dum... Tish! so, okay, after 4: one... two... thr... what's that? No Mike, you won't be needing the gong for this, oh what! you need it anyway?... okay we'll wait while your drum tech sets it up... yes Carl, the crane has arrived and we'll be setting up your kit shortly... sorry Nick what did you say? yes, I think it is in common time... yes, that is the same as 4/4 time, yes I know it's only three hits but it's still 4/4 time, yes, I know 3 plus 4 is 7 but it's not 7/4 time it's 4/4time... well think of the 4th beat as a rest... pardon Mike? is the gong setup now? Oh, not yet but you want to know what a rest is... okay, guys can you tell Mike what a rest is? .... anyone? ... Terry? ... Gavin? Carl? Mike? Mike? Alan? Bill surely you... oh, okay so no one then ... it's when you don't hit a anything for a beat... why are you all looking at me like that? ... well yes, of course there's a point to employing a drummer to not hit a drum... yes I do know drums cost a lot of money that doesn't mean you have to hit all of them. Look, while we're waiting for Carl and Mike to have their kits set up can we run through it one more time... " <<twenty minutes later>> "yeah, okay... umm... that was good fellows but maybe just a little on the long side.. just smidgen too many notes perhaps and Neil you know what I'm going to say don't you?... yes way too much cowbell... hang on... can someone give Alan a nudge and wake him up? .... no Bill not like that and certainly not with a mallet, now can you help him back onto his stool please... what's that Terry? ... ah, it's called a throne, that little stool you sit on is called a throne .... okay, no I didn't know that, thank you for that, so would you mind helping Bill pick Alan up and help him to his 'throne'... thank you. Yes Gavin, you wanted to ask something... yes I think Carl is finished with the crane now, what do you want it for? ah right... upside down you say... and why's that? you're fed up with prog and want to audition for Slipknot... well we could try but we're not really equipped for it and I don't think Phil's suspenders are going to be good enough for a harness... hold it just a second would you please... Phil... Phil... erm, excuse me, hey, Phil... PHIL! PHILLIP COLLINS! ... yes, you... could I just stop you there for a minute... yeah you could say there is a slight problem... 'ba-do-diddly-do-bah-pah-pish' isn't quite the same is it... ba-dum tish ... that's it and that's all we want... ba dum tish... no 'do-diddlies' no 'bah-pah-pishes' just ba-dum tish and please Phil this time we'd like you to play it on the drums... please don't sing it again... look, can someone give Alan another nudge? .... no not you Bill, someone else this time... Alan keeps taking your lunch-money... oh not lunch-money, your meal-ticket... yes, if you say so I suppose he does... Okay then, are we all ready? Oh, you'd like a count in Mike, fair enough... can someone count us in... anyone... look someone here must know how to count to 4..."
qft
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 15:29
Collins vs. Mangini vs. Portnoy Badum Tish poll?
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 16:19
sagichim wrote:
Collins vs. Mangini vs. Portnoy Badum Tish poll?
I'll bring the popcorn
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 16:32
I think we've already conducted it: Mangini does 415 badum tishes in a minute, Portnoy inserts polyrythmic fills bewteen bah, dum and tish where he manages to hit everything in his kit except the gong (which his poor drum tech will have to pack away in the lorry for the 1000th time without it ever being played), and Collins sings 'ba-do-diddly-do-bah-pah-pish' in his best white-soul voice.
------------- What?
Posted By: bensommer
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 21:47
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 22:17
Snow Dog wrote:
Yeah...knocking Satriani is uncalled for.
Three words for you mate(and some bonus commentary):
Ah Via Musicom
Get with the program.
Oh yeah, three of us saw Eric Johnson open up for Satriani in the mid 1990's. After being blown away by Eric's lead playing, songwriting and singing, we hung in there for Satriani. All three of us looked at each other about an hour later and shook our heads after Joe:
Endlessly noodled while the bass player thumped one note into submission & new depths of boredom. Joe pathetically tried to be cool, wearing a motorcycle hat and singing quite horribly "I like to ride...." yet the hoodlum biker crowd (and Village People wannabees...) in the audience ate it up anyway. Joe tried again to sing,but failed embarassingly this time a soft ballad. Truly a tragic event coming after Eric Johnson. You should have been there.
Admit it, you are just cross with me about what I said about the Lord Cornwallis, The Royal Mail & Queen Mum, yes???
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 22:29
dtguitarfan wrote:
Jammit (app that lets you take certain instruments out of a song so that you can play along)
Ok, enough DT banter, or I will need to ask you why their singer has to always shriek at the top of his lungs all the time like he stashed a boom stand up his behind.... Getting back to drummers, which was the thread topic. I believe the lad who mentioned Alan White on YESSONGS should get top placement here.
Please put down your autographed DT bobble-head dolls for a second and play Close To The Edge from Yessongs and dig what Alan is doing. Disciplined, fast AND wicked all at the same time.
Ah yes, Jammit, the single coolest app on the planet. Why???
Because they have RUSH 2112 available, so one can play guitar to the real bass, drums & vocals.
NOW we are cooking with gas!
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 22:43
Go to school, come home and go straight to work, come home and take a shower, get on my computer and realize I just missed out on the action in the first four pages of the funniest thread on PA.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 22:49
dtfan likes trolling the community with his love of Dream Theater
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 23:35
Horizons wrote:
dtfan likes trolling the community with his love of Dream Theater
I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't strictly meant to be taken seriously. If it's trolling, then it must be a good side of trolling, because this thread is ridiculously funny.
A better example of trolling is when you passionately argue a point you don't even agree with in order to impress some girl on a forum, which I recently learned was the motivation of someone I was arguing with on a different site.
Everybody knows the factually greatest drummer is Mick Pointer, anyway.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 23:48
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Dean wrote:
I'm quite taken by the thought of getting Portnoy, Mangini, White, Bruford, Collins, Harrison, Bozzio, Peart, Palmer and Mason in a room and asking them to play a badum tish.
"Okay guys, what we need is a straight forward: Ba-Dum... Tish! so, okay, after 4: one... two... thr... what's that? No Mike, you won't be needing the gong for this, oh what! you need it anyway?... okay we'll wait while your drum tech sets it up... yes Carl, the crane has arrived and we'll be setting up your kit shortly... sorry Nick what did you say? yes, I think it is in common time... yes, that is the same as 4/4 time, yes I know it's only three hits but it's still 4/4 time, yes, I know 3 plus 4 is 7 but it's not 7/4 time it's 4/4time... well think of the 4th beat as a rest... pardon Mike? is the gong setup now? Oh, not yet but you want to know what a rest is... okay, guys can you tell Mike what a rest is? .... anyone? ... Terry? ... Gavin? Carl? Mike? Mike? Alan? Bill surely you... oh, okay so no one then ... it's when you don't hit a anything for a beat... why are you all looking at me like that? ... well yes, of course there's a point to employing a drummer to not hit a drum... yes I do know drums cost a lot of money that doesn't mean you have to hit all of them. Look, while we're waiting for Carl and Mike to have their kits set up can we run through it one more time... " <<twenty minutes later>> "yeah, okay... umm... that was good fellows but maybe just a little on the long side.. just smidgen too many notes perhaps and Neil you know what I'm going to say don't you?... yes way too much cowbell... hang on... can someone give Alan a nudge and wake him up? .... no Bill not like that and certainly not with a mallet, now can you help him back onto his stool please... what's that Terry? ... ah, it's called a throne, that little stool you sit on is called a throne .... okay, no I didn't know that, thank you for that, so would you mind helping Bill pick Alan up and help him to his 'throne'... thank you. Yes Gavin, you wanted to ask something... yes I think Carl is finished with the crane now, what do you want it for? ah right... upside down you say... and why's that? you're fed up with prog and want to audition for Slipknot... well we could try but we're not really equipped for it and I don't think Phil's suspenders are going to be good enough for a harness... hold it just a second would you please... Phil... Phil... erm, excuse me, hey, Phil... PHIL! PHILLIP COLLINS! ... yes, you... could I just stop you there for a minute... yeah you could say there is a slight problem... 'ba-do-diddly-do-bah-pah-pish' isn't quite the same is it... ba-dum tish ... that's it and that's all we want... ba dum tish... no 'do-diddlies' no 'bah-pah-pishes' just ba-dum tish and please Phil this time we'd like you to play it on the drums... please don't sing it again... look, can someone give Alan another nudge? .... no not you Bill, someone else this time... Alan keeps taking your lunch-money... oh not lunch-money, your meal-ticket... yes, if you say so I suppose he does... Okay then, are we all ready? Oh, you'd like a count in Mike, fair enough... can someone count us in... anyone... look someone here must know how to count to 4..."
qft
😁👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊 ten fist punches to this!! This goddam hilarious!! Love it. Also I think you need the crane for terry Bozzio's drum kit. Lol sh*t is massive!!! Anyway gotta say that mike Portnoy is the best. Peart is runner up for sure.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 00:17
progbethyname wrote:
Anyway gotta say that mike Portnoy is the best. Peart is runner up for sure.
It's not funny telling a joke twice.
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 00:26
sagichim wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Anyway gotta say that mike Portnoy is the best. Peart is runner up for sure.
It's not funny telling a joke twice.
Really, it depends on the joke.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 04:12
dennismoore wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Yeah...knocking Satriani is uncalled for.
Three words for you mate(and some bonus commentary):
Ah Via Musicom
Get with the program.
Oh yeah, three of us saw Eric Johnson open up for Satriani in the mid 1990's. After being blown away by Eric's lead playing, songwriting and singing, we hung in there for Satriani. All three of us looked at each other about an hour later and shook our heads after Joe:
Endlessly noodled while the bass player thumped one note into submission & new depths of boredom. Joe pathetically tried to be cool, wearing a motorcycle hat and singing quite horribly "I like to ride...." yet the hoodlum biker crowd (and Village People wannabees...) in the audience ate it up anyway. Joe tried again to sing,but failed embarassingly this time a soft ballad. Truly a tragic event coming after Eric Johnson. You should have been there.
Admit it, you are just cross with me about what I said about the Lord Cornwallis, The Royal Mail & Queen Mum, yes???
Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 04:44
"Factually" greatest? Does saying it that way somehow give a mere opinion more credibility?
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 05:24
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Horizons wrote:
dtfan likes trolling the community with his love of Dream Theater
I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't strictly meant to be taken seriously. If it's trolling, then it must be a good side of trolling, because this thread is ridiculously funny.
Nah, I don't see how saying you love a band can possibly be trolling in any way. Now, what Mr. Dennis Moore is doing? That's trolling. By the way - Eric Johnson is boring, and Joe Satriani puts on a good show....
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 05:34
DiamondDog wrote:
"Factually" greatest? Does saying it that way somehow give a mere opinion more credibility?
He is the greatest in the only measurable way, and it is a fact!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 05:46
Where are the Baldies when you need them?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 05:48
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:09
Oh, someone's hand moves faster than anyone else's? That must mean that they are the best drummer of all time.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:12
dtguitarfan wrote:
So I found out (surprised I hadn't heard of this until now) why people around here have all the DT hate - it's jealousy, man! You just can't stand that they have THE (FACTUALLY) Greatest Drummer alive! (Queue the "well so and so is more 'tasteful'" comment bs, heh heh)
Current record:
Former record:
And an awesome breakdown:
Why dont you just post : Hey listen to this its great !!
A lot more possivive than :
So I found out why people around here have all the DT hate - it's jealousy, man!
Dont know about others, but not the way to get me interested.
I dont Hate DT. Its just not my favorite genre in Prog.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:19
It's amazing the volatile reaction Dream Theater causes on this Archives, I love it! I totally sit on the fence with them, for a band I don't make a lot of time for, I still seem to own all their albums and enjoy them from time to time, yet I'm also kind of dismissive of them frequently too?
In the end, I think I'm like the Neutreeno aliens in Futurama - "I HAVE NO STRONG FEELINGS EITHER WAY!"
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:39
tamijo wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
So I found out (surprised I hadn't heard of this until now) why people around here have all the DT hate - it's jealousy, man! You just can't stand that they have THE (FACTUALLY) Greatest Drummer alive! (Queue the "well so and so is more 'tasteful'" comment bs, heh heh)
Current record:
Former record:
And an awesome breakdown:
Why dont you just post : Hey listen to this its great !!
A lot more possivive than :
So I found out why people around here have all the DT hate - it's jealousy, man!
Dont know about others, but not the way to get me interested.
I dont Hate DT. Its just not my favorite genre in Prog.
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:39
zeqexes wrote:
Oh, someone's hand moves faster than anyone else's? That must mean that they are the best drummer of all time.
Oh, someone trashes Prog that sounds similar to 70's Prog, and then he himself writes music that sounds like 70's Prog...except that it has no dynamics and never really goes anywhere? He must be the greatest musician/composer alive....
Heh heh...
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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:45
Snow Dog wrote:
DT isn't a genre.......yet
Well, if you believe the DT haters, EVERYTHING that is part of the Progressive Metal sub-genre is just a Dream Theater Clone. Most overused, ridiculous, and lazy criticism ever.... As I've said before, it's kind of like if you criticized every guitar based band as being a "Led Zeppelin clone" - DT and LZ have very widely varying styles that they have shown throughout their career, so are you saying that band sounds just like this song, or that one, this album, or that one, this era, or that?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:48
dtguitarfan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
DT isn't a genre.......yet
Well, if you believe the DT haters, EVERYTHING that is part of the Progressive Metal sub-genre is just a Dream Theater Clone. Most overused, ridiculous, and lazy criticism ever.... As I've said before, it's kind of like if you criticized every guitar based band as being a "Led Zeppelin clone" - DT and LZ have very widely varying styles that they have shown throughout their career, so are you saying that band sounds just like this song, or that one, this album, or that one, this era, or that?
I don't believe DT haters say that. Maybe some do, I don't have any reference though.
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 08:24
dtguitarfan wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Horizons wrote:
dtfan likes trolling the community with his love of Dream Theater
I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't strictly meant to be taken seriously. If it's trolling, then it must be a good side of trolling, because this thread is ridiculously funny.
Nah, I don't see how saying you love a band can possibly be trolling in any way. Now, what Mr. Dennis Moore is doing? That's trolling. By the way - Eric Johnson is boring, and Joe Satriani puts on a good show....
If my impression of him is right, Dennis doesn't mean anyone to take everything he writes seriously, either.
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 08:28
dtguitarfan wrote:
DiamondDog wrote:
"Factually" greatest? Does saying it that way somehow give a mere opinion more credibility?
He is the greatest in the only measurable way, and it is a fact!
Theoretically, you could attach sensors to several people's brains and have them listen to various drum solos, and then measure their neurological reactions to determine which drummer provokes the strongest emotional response.
That would be far too much pointless work for any scientist, though, unless it was government-funded, in which case the whole question of whether scientific research is relevant is usually ignored.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 08:32
^ absolutely - the measure of a dummer is in the emotional responses he creates in the audience, solo's aside (which unless you are a drummer can be butt-numbingly boring), it is how their drumming compliments the music that matters.
------------- What?
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 08:34
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
That would be far too much pointless work for any scientist, though.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 08:36
Dean wrote:
where he manages to hit everything in his kit except the gong
And when he strikes his gong
Your middle eye comes on
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 09:11
thellama73 wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
That would be far too much pointless work for any scientist, though.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/09/20/report-about-reports-about-reports-yep-at-this-years-ig-nobel-awards/" rel="nofollow - 2012 Ig Nobel Prize Winners Announced