Your views on the next Opeth album
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Topic: Your views on the next Opeth album
Posted By: appudds
Subject: Your views on the next Opeth album
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:39
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Hey everyone. Its been a while. I was just figuring out what Opeth plans to do in the future I found out Mikael Akerfeldt is working on Opeth's next album http://metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=17546" rel="nofollow - http://metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=17546
It should be quite interesting in the direction they are going. Its going to be a year since they launched Heritage I wish they do growls and not fully dwelve into progressive rock. (Even though Akerfeldt has told he might look into growls again) After Storm Corrosion got over, I am expecting Akerfeldt to do something soon So, what are your thoughts? Where do you think Opeth are heading? Will they have growls? Or will they stabilize in the progressive rock scene? Do post in your inputs ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................... I personally feel they will probably go into a more "progressive folk" type of genre. Something along the likes of Famine or The Throat of Winter. Maybe a bit of growls but not predominant. Opeth never rests in a single genre. They always move onto something new everytime
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 05:05
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 06:40
 As to the OP, I'm not sure I care anymore. Not since Blackwater Park have Opeth made an album that really wow's me, everything since has been prety bad to OK. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 07:21
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I hope he got the progressive rock album out of his system and return to some mighty progressive death metal again. Well...actually I wouldn´t mind if there weren´t any growls on the next album, but heavier riffs would make my day. I personally found "Heritage" to be slightly boring and had a hard time getting through the album. I tried and I tried but eventually had to listen to the album in pieces over the course of many listens to digest the full album. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 07:36
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^ I wasn't blown away by Heritage either, I still like it, but missed some of the majesty and darkness from them. Some really impressive pieces on the album, but I too hope it's a mix of progressive metal and prog.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 08:34
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Mikael has said that the next album will be in the vein of hard rock.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 09:13
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Posted By: Gard3n
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 09:46
| Well, it can't suck harder than the last... |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 10:01
That's what I think every time I see one of those candle avatars .I haven't seen him around much lately, which is a shame as his posts were thought-provoking, even though they were very hard to understand as English wasn't his first language. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: IMPF
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 10:07
don't be so sure about yourself...
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Posted By: treebeard
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 10:43
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I didn't like anything by Opeth until the last album.
There's plenty of mileage left in exploring the angle taken on the last album without going back to heavy metal. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:19
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Here's the interview. ------------- |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:19
I'm a fan of virtually all stages of Opeth's development (progression?  ) & if the next album were to further explore the areas touched on by 'Heritage' I'd be one happy man.
Then again, if they were to go softer still (toward say, the 'Damnation' album) or considerably harder, I'd still be a happy man. To me, Opeth are one of the more interesting bands in their particular genre & Akerfeldt's leadership & songwriting so far haven't disappointed ------------- 
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:20
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:31
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Heritage is pretty much why I've began to get back into Opeth. When
Watershed came out, it seemed a little "more of the same" and/or "they
might be actually running out of ideas". I see that album differently
now, but it's still how I felt back then. That was more of me personally not being in the right head-space for Watershed. It seems like Heritage is garnering similar opinions and statements online that were garnered when Damnation came out. Yet, nowadays, it's seen as one of their best albums. Opeth are actually being progressive, pretty much always have been. I feel Heritage will age very well. In the words of Edgard Varese - "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." As far as them going in a hard rock direction: C'mon, Opeth have albums like Damnation and Heritage, which got people worried, but in my opinion, those albums are still classic Opeth, even a transitional album like Watershed is still an amazing album. I sense that people think it's going to be some 70s/80s hard rock inspired album. I think Mikael just wants to bring some aggression back to the music, either composition-wise, or production wise, considering Heritage was a very low-key album as far as production went. Even though I've fallen in and out of love with Opeth over the years for personal reasons, they have never truly disappointed. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:46
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i'd love to love these dudes, but i just can't stand the death growls. heritage was good. ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 14:34
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I liked Heritage a lot. It's better than Watershed, which is also pretty good. As long as they don't make another album that sounds like Damnation I don't care. |
Posted By: ValenceGuitar
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 21:59
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I felt that many of the riffs on Heritage could have sounded like something off Watershed, Ghost Reveries, or even Deliverance at times had they used a heavier distortion and growled instead of sung. I agree a lot with darkshade regarding the general quality of Opeth albums, and I think they need to explore a different direction to keep the creative juices flowing without getting stale. Heritage was good in my opinion, and I was glad that they changed up a bit. I feel like Watershed was the end of any decent death metal for them. I'd say that was their weakest album. Evolve or die. ------------- www.valence.bandcamp.com www.valence-band.com |
Posted By: appudds
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 02:47
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Nice inputs. if Opeth were to dwelve into hard Rock, I would be a bit disappointing as i always wanted them to do something more folk. But hey. Opeth always make any genre sound awesome and beautiful. So, I believe the next album, even if its Hard Rock, will be amazing. Heritage was not a single a listen appreciate album. It took me a couple of listens to fully like Heritage. But when you listen to it a couple of times, you will start loving it. The variation each song shows is really nice. But i don't know why, I didn't like the mix in the album. Yes, it sounds vintage, but it sounded dull to me. Another interesting take would be Opeth taking on something more technically complex. Imagine If opeth pull out something like Dark Eternal Night from Systematic Chaos by DT... Crazy instrumental sections [My imagination is going beyond reality lol] |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 06:31
I think Heritage was definitely an improvement over some of the growlier albums, that never really impress me these days. Maybe in short bursts but not the over indulgence in growls on some of Watershed, Deliverance and Ghost Reveries. I would say their best albums for proggers are Heritage, Damantion and Ghost Reveries without a doubt, though Still Life has to get a mention - there's some astonishing songs on that one. As long as they dont go back to death metal gravel spitting vocals I will be happy. -------------
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 07:53
Hopefully a good deal heavier and a few growls please  .
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Posted By: Jbird
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 15:30
| I understand why he's not doing the cookie monster vocals these days, but I would be happier if the music itself were a bit heavier than what was on Heritage. |
Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 16:04
Cookie monster, more like beast monster
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 20:00
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Posted By: Heliosphan
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 11:50
| I don't mind growls at all since Still Life is one of my favorite albums and I like some death metal bands. But I'm pretty sure I read in an interview that Mikael decided to call it quits on the growls. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 12:28
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I remember on the Heritage DVD that Mikael said something like he hasn't ruled out growls ever again in Opeth's music, but that right now, he isn't feeling it.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 13:13
Indeed. I remember him saying something about exploring new musical perspectives and I'm totally for that, even if I don't particularly like where it's leading to, which is not the case with Opeth. -------------   
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Posted By: Meta
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 13:25
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Mikael went through a rough patch where he switched monitor systems during live use, and it really messed up his growl technique. A lot of people had thought he blew out his voice (maybe permanently), but when he switched back to the old monitoring system all was well. Hopefully being able to growl comfortably again live will lead to a bit of growl on the next album. I think Opeth's best album is Ghost Reveries, so a return to heavier material would be just fine by me. I will forever lament Martin Lopez leaving the band, though. ------------- http://www.heavymeta.net" rel="nofollow - Meta's Official Website |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:05
Oh please no. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:10
Systematic Chaos was a great album, ok?  -------------
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:13
It was OK. I can't even get through The Ministry of Lost Souls, though. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:27
I have to agree that it has two songs that I didn't enjoyed thoroughly: Forsaken and Ministry; the former because of the huge amounts of cheese/badness and the latter because it's way too big, but still enjoyable. -------------
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:36
I didn't necessarily hate any of the songs, but all of them except for The Dark Eternal Night and In the Presence of Enemies were kind of meh for me. And even though I like ADEN, I don't really think it's one of DT's better songs. Ministry sounded good at first and then went on forever with an out-of-place solo section. BC&SL was an improvement, in my opinion (musically, not lyrically  ) and then they came back with ADTOE and that was great.------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 23:17
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Agreed, Systematic Chaos was a dip in quality for DT, but they came back with BC&SL, though flawed, a much better album. However, A Dramatic Turn of Events blows them all away. I like The Dark Eternal Night, it's got great riffs. If Opeth did a song or two like that on the new album, I'd probably enjoy it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 09:13
| I've had a feeling that the next Opeth album would be heavier than Heritage but without returning to death metal style vocals. From the whispers that are going around it seems very probable. I for one will be happy without the growls - it was always something I've tolerated rather than enjoyed and even Watershed had a higher clean vocal ratio than past releases. |
Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 11:09
| I have liked Opeth since Morningrise and I love Heritage so will probably enjoy whatever Mikael decides upon. I would like the music to be a bit heavier next time and don't expect any growls but trust Mikael is continuing to "progress" and is still being influenced by his record collection. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 18:34
| I would be extremely happy if Opeth came with a full metal album withough growls. |
Posted By: RedNightmareKing
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 23:02
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I'm a huge fan of the Swedish death metal proggers. What I really want is another concept-ish album like Morningrise or Still Life. However, I just really enjoy almost everything Opeth puts out (save for Deliverance, MAYBE). So if this new album is sort of in the hard rock vein, I'm fine without Mikael's death growls. I hope that the progressive elements are still VERY prominent within their compositions.
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Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 13:33
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(Systematic Chaos is to me exactly what DT sounds like for the DT haters) On topic : I must say I never got really excited by Heritage. Storm Corrosion was a superb album imo, but I wouldn't mind if Mikael stopped using the acoustic for a while ... I still trust him as a songwriter, he has repeatedly shown great talent. Never was a big fan of Opeth anyway (although Blackwater Park blows me away every time I listen it) so if it's bad, it's ok for me :p ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Infinite-Progability-Drive/141225469388975" rel="nofollow - The Infinite Progability Drive , feeding you daily progressive/weird music for just a like <3 |
Posted By: Quirky Turkey
Date Posted: September 09 2012 at 03:04
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I don't mind the growls but I prefer the songs with clean vocals.(I loved Heritage). I would be happy if Opeth did another album that sounds either similar to Watershed or Heritage. Ghost Reveries, although great and proggy in some spots, was too orthodox Opeth for me, with too much emphasis on 'heavy.' |
Posted By: appudds
Date Posted: September 09 2012 at 05:37
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I feel DT's last great album was Octavarium. After that, it was a downhill ride with Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds & Silver Linings Agreed, both the albums have good moments, but they are a major letdown after Octavarium, atleast for me. The reason why I pointed out The Dark Eternal Night was mainly because of that instrumental mid section which I fell in LOVE with. I wish Opeth does some instrumental songs (I know. That is totally out of proportion and completely out of Opeth's style. But hey, if there are bands which surprise me a LOT, Opeth is probably in the top of that list for me. So, I am still a bit optimistic) And as I mentioned before, I wish Opeth does something like neo-folk progressive rock/metal. That would be my DREAM. I love all their folk-ish songs like The Throat for Winter, Famine and The Apostle In Triumph (Intro)
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 16:13
| ^ Agree about Octavarium. I like both Opeth's heavy stuff, and Heritage (and Damnation), so I don't really care what type of music they put out, I'll probably like it. After all, Mikael is a musical genius. |
Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 18:03
Are you talking Current 93-style neo folk ? That would be awesome indeed. In fact Storm Corrosion could be considered as neo-folk in this regard =O ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Infinite-Progability-Drive/141225469388975" rel="nofollow - The Infinite Progability Drive , feeding you daily progressive/weird music for just a like <3 |