Good Quality CD-Rs
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Topic: Good Quality CD-Rs
Posted By: presdoug
Subject: Good Quality CD-Rs
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 11:53
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I sometimes copy my LPs onto CD, and i have a problem. It's getting hard to find good quality blank CD-Rs. The quality of a CD-R depends on the dye it's made with: green dyes are the lowest quality, blue dyes are good, and golden-yellow dyes are the highest archival quality. You can tell the colour of a CD by laying a tissue over the surface to block the rainbow reflection. Does anybody know a brand or model of blue CD-Rs? *Special Note* It has been pointed out that i am wrong, that the color of dye used is not an indicator of the quality of your disc. |
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:07
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Cool tip. My last batch are greenies.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:21
I went to check some in my collection that were made by others. Jack Lancaster's Marscape is green. But I got Ultra Violins by and from Darryl Way (he autographed the front label "to Brian"  ) it's black. I've got an old Imation and a Maxell that are blue. They really should let you know on the box, don't you think?
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:52
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Slartibartfast wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 17:02
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I don't think it makes a difference. It's just pits. The only thing to worry is if it will detirorate ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 17:13
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This site says dyes vary by manufacturer and there's no conclusive proof one is better than the other: http://www.kopyrite.com/tech_cdr.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.kopyrite.com/tech_cdr.htm But being organic they won't have the longevity of the regular manufactured ones. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 19:46
This link is very informative, thanks a lot, Brian
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 03:49
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The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old
 Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 12:48
According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 15:55
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There was an interesting series on the History Channel called http://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people" rel="nofollow - http://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people on one of the episodes they were talking about the decay of various forms of media, books, etc. that occur over time and of course would be accelerated if we were to all vanish from the planet and the various forms of indoor climate control would go offline. Here's the episode I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xDobH1tb0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xDobH1tb0 The Crypt at Oglethorpe is a few miles away from where I live. It's about 57 minutes into the first episode: ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Cloud Forest
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 16:51
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yp im also getting annoyed by low quality cd's,and if you listen to prog rock you must have high quality sound. i always buy my cd's in stores who sell such supplies,like sound speakers,... they are really expensive but they are worth it. -------------  |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:16
Dang! I just tried it and I got one batch of green and another batch of blue. I had no idea about that. Cheers! ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:18
Yeah I said so. Before anyone.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:20
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My last batch of blues were Sony silvers 700mb. The batch before that were green TDK golds. What are the best quality as I thought they were good brands -------------
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:21
Ah OK I can see that - it still is an interesting about the variations in colour. -------------
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Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 06:49
| I believe Tayo Yuden is a good brand. I've only used DVD's though, but they have been working nicely. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:11
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 12:58
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I've always used Verbatim or Maxell CD-Rs. I rarely use anything else. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 14:26
I'm afraid that after Fukushima we will see increasingly strange colours in all the Japan-made CD-Rs 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 17:04
Hey, I did provide a link. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 19:03
If I look at mine while listening to DSOtM.....I see pretty colors...what quality is that?
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 20:02
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^the trick is to put a tissue paper on a disc when it is not playing, there is usually a multi coloured kind of rainbow effect of colors, and when you put a tissue over that rainbow effect, a single color will manifest itself (obviously you can't do this while it's playing) the pretty colors you see is a common rainbow color effect that does not indicate quality at all At any rate, it has been pointed out on this thread that the color you see when you use a tissue paper over the rainbow effect, showing the color of the dye used, is not an indicator of the quality of the disc at all. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 06:23
What do the one colours indicate then? I thought it might be the way it is coded for copying -------------
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:47
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:55
I just noticed that you qualified your tissue suggestion with "when it is not playing."  The image of someone trying to lay a tissue on a rapidly spinning CD-R to ascertain its color strikes me as very funny indeed. ------------- 
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 14:48
^^that does sound like something pretty self evident! I didn't need to point that out, really! I guess i meant to say that you cannot notice the dye color by watching your disc as it is playing |
Posted By: sturoc
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 01:33
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The question may really be why archive to CDs at all ? I have nearly given up using mechanical forms of music playback and recording since sooner or later a CD's drive mechanics will fail, alot sooner than a well made Hard drive , SSD or SD card. I was on the bandwagon of recording certain Lps to disk or making compilation CDs for trips etc. But when the media would not play well or at all in some rental car players and in portable units which were just never made to be 100% shock resistant, I gave up on it all. I was using Verbatim for CD and DVD and still have a few hundred left which I will keep . That brand has been pretty consistent with their burn results. When deciding what brand to go with I reviewed many on NewEgg where a wealth of info regarding discs and manufacturers was revealed i.e different disc plants, processes etc. The future of better quality is in your PC or Mac. CD's are dead. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 09:50
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"The future of better quality is in your PC or Mac. CD's are dead."
That's not true, but i don't want to get into this debate. About CD Rs, not (not the audiophile burner ones), there are the "Mitsui" which are reliable. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 09:51
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 11:55
Contrary to urban myth or popular belief, (whichever is the greater), the quality of CDR does not affect the audio quality of whatever is recorded on them - what the quality of the CDR determines is how fast you can write it and how long the data will last. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 13:33
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I remember when being able to record a cd was a new and wondrous thing. Around that time these were introduced and they promised they would be good for a lifetime of storage. http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-Digital-Vinyl-Multicolor-Spindle/dp/B00009WO51" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-Digital-Vinyl-Multicolor-Spindle/dp/B00009WO51 Not sure about actual longevity though. ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 15:39
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Posted By: rock143
Date Posted: October 04 2012 at 13:27
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Well as far as i don't use CD's anymore. Even my CD writer on laptop is out of order :P
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 01:10
| I would not use anything other than MAM-A CDs (Google it). They are gold plated archival CDs. In theory they should last 99 years before deteriorating if kept in proper temperatures and such. They will outlast any other digital media including computers and hard drives for sure. They're expensive. If I recall, a package of 100 was about $200. I'm an amateur guitarist. Professionally, I'm a linguist working who works on an endangered language, and good long lasting archivability is a very serious issue. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 10:12
 oh you can be sure I had a good laugh as well. Picturing it now!! Killer!! Anyway, why not use wax paper instead. Lol------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: MasterOfPuppets
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 11:20
| Taiyo Yuden CDs/DVDs are often called the best you can buy. They are one of the co-creators of CD-R. |
Posted By: sturoc
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:00
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Do a little research on the manufacturers of all those blank cd-r +their companies mentioned in this post. You may be surprised at the findings. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 17:03
Well I did a little research myself and DEAN, once again you are absolutely right. I can always count on you. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: September 05 2013 at 14:34
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I gave up on cheap CD-R's many years ago. If I am burning something for a friend I will use Sony CD-R Digital Music. If it's going into my collection from an album or obscure download...I go with a blank MFSL Gold CD-R, they are like $2.99 at any Guitar Center in the USA and I buy them a dozen at a time. You can also get Delkin 25 pack spindles for around $50 bucks. That may sound expensive to some, but I can't stand sunspot jumps or bad recordings in my collection. ------------- Deafmoon |