Favorite Genesis album?
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Topic: Favorite Genesis album?
Posted By: The Jester
Subject: Favorite Genesis album?
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:44
Ok, maybe I'm a newbie here, but I love these kind of posts! Especially when it comes to one of my most beloved bands... Unfortunately I can't put up a poll, so if anyone wants to answer to this post he/she must write it here. Soooo... What is your most beloved album by Genesis? You can just simply write the name, or if you want you can write why is your most beloved one. Your choice! 
And since I started this, I should write first, right? It is very hard for me to choose, especially between Nurcery Cryme and Selling England by the Pound. I will 'vote' for Nurcery Cryme, but not lighthearted!  I'm really very curious to see your opinions on that... 
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:45
From the Gabriel-era Genesis: Nursery Cryme From the Collins-era Genesis: Wind & Wuthering
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:02
Taking "most beloved" to mean "least loathed," Wind and Wuthering.
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:12
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:14
Gabriel era: Foxtrot
Post Gabriel era: A Trick of the Tail.
To be honest I don't think they put a foot wrong between 1970 - 1980.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:24
Gabriel Era -- Selling England Post-Gabe Hackett era -- Trick of the Tail Full-on Phil Era -- Abacab
I actually like all of their albums except Calling all Barfbags though.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:29
Quintet: Foxtrot Quartet: Wind and Wuthering Trio: Genesis
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:31
Foxtrot!
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 14:02
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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I think it's because it's a fantastic album 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 14:03
lazland wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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I think it's because it's a fantastic album  | No, that can't be it. Mass brainwashing seems more plausible.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 14:06
My favourite Gabriel era album has always been Nursery Cryme. It is, to me, the epitome of that unique style of English pastoral rock that I fell in love with so many years ago.
Favourite quartet album is ATOTT - an incredible album in the wake of such a devastating loss.
As for the trio era, I love them all, but Duke, to me, ranks as one of the finest albums ever made.
(Cue loads of silly posts decrying Collins  )
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 14:19
Like Blacksword its between Trick and Foxtrot for me
If pushed I would go for Trick.
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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 14:42
Selling England By The Pound I'm sure this topic has been done a thousand times already: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81813&KW=genesis+album&PID=4306207#4306207" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81813&KW=genesis+album&PID=4306207#4306207 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67562&KW=genesis+album&PID=3659315#3659315" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67562&KW=genesis+album&PID=3659315#3659315 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36530&KW=genesis+album&PID=2459201#2459201" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36530&KW=genesis+album&PID=2459201#2459201 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31486&KW=genesis+album&PID=2274965#2274965" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31486&KW=genesis+album&PID=2274965#2274965 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13208&KW=genesis+album&PID=1705137#1705137" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13208&KW=genesis+album&PID=1705137#1705137
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 14:56
Sounds about right.
In all seriousness, what I hear is two great tracks ("Eleventh Earl of Mar", "Blood on the Rooftops"), a mighty boring "epic" without a single interesting melody and a serious lack of dynamics ("One for the Vine"), two weak ballads that could have been something with a bit of work ("Your Own Special Way", "Afterglow"), a "Robbery"-ish song with a melody I don't enjoy and a poor performance by Collins on vocals ("All in a Mouse's Night") and three instrumentals that range from okay to sleep-inducing. It's not a terrible album, but I don't see what the fuss is about.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:04
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:21
Peter G era: Trespass Four man era: Trick of the Tail (Can't stand side one of W&W, and I just don't like Phil's voice on it) Three man era: Duke but We Can't Dance is a very close second.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:24
I re-listened to 'invisible touch' and I must confess it's not bad at all.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:25
I think every song on Wind & Wuthering was fantastic. The musicianship is solid and their hearts are into it. This is just not some pop band going through the motions like so much of their later output represents to me, but rather like they were still like they were in the beginning as Hackett describes them "a songwriters collective." To those that don't like the album, then nobody can convince you of it's merits, but for those that love this album, they know why they love it and this kind of bond just isn't shared by all Genesis fans. These are the people I enjoy talking to, because they know how special the album is not only for the departure of Hackett, but kind of a memoriam for a magical time in these musician's lives. There is something so somber and mournful about this album. And all of this came to final fruition on Seconds Out.
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:26
Mirror Image wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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Why people like Queen or Eloy is beyond me. |
And that's fine. The fact that I don't understand why people like Wind & Wuthering doesn't mean there are no legitimate reasons to enjoy it.
Mirror Image wrote:
This is just not some pop band going through the motions |
What is that supposed to mean? Do pop bands generally go through the motions while prog bands don't?
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:36
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
This is just not some pop band going through the motions |
What is that supposed to mean? Do pop bands generally go through the motions while prog bands don't?
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Pop bands are a lot more guilty of it than prog bands. It means that they're just in it for the money instead of making an artistic statement. Not all pop bands are guilty of this, but pop music is generally aimed at the lowest common denominator. This said, I do like some pop music and it's not that I'm totally against it, I just don't think highly of it compared to prog bands. Even prog bands make pop songs and I think more highly of them than a band whose sole purpose is commercial appeal.
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 16:13
Gabriel Era - The Lamb Post Gabriel w/ Hackett - Trick of the Tail Phil Collins!! - Genesis Overall - The Lamb, easily.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 16:15
Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 16:25
The Lamb... But they're all amazing. The Lamia is just about my favorite Genesis song. This should've been a poll!
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 17:12
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 22:34
Has anyone voted SEBTP yet? Strange result! Anyway, I will vote that, with NC close behind (and TMB being their best song).
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 01:50
Mirror Image wrote:
I think every song on Wind & Wuthering was fantastic. The musicianship is solid and their hearts are into it. This is just not some pop band going through the motions like so much of their later output represents to me, but rather like they were still like they were in the beginning as Hackett describes them "a songwriters collective." To those that don't like the album, then nobody can convince you of it's merits, but for those that love this album, they know why they love it and this kind of bond just isn't shared by all Genesis fans. These are the people I enjoy talking to, because they know how special the album is not only for the departure of Hackett, but kind of a memoriam for a magical time in these musician's lives. There is something so somber and mournful about this album. And all of this came to final fruition on Seconds Out. |
Quite pleased to say I agree with most of that
My only slight reservation is the live versions of One For The Vine are so much better and Collins drumming is a little 'stiff' to my ears but putting those litte things aside I love this album.
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Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 03:00
Thank you all very much first of all! :) 'Geneyesontle" I'm a newbie here. I took a look around, and the only post I found was 'Top-5 Genesis albums'. Obviously there has been another poll last year, but I had no idea about it! (Now I have). Also, I wanted to post something to see how the whole thing is working. So I posted that. Weird thing is that the results so far are very different than the last years poll! hehehehe Now, let's take a look what you have voted so far... Trespass: 1 Nursery Cryme: 4 Foxtrot: 3 Selling England... : 3 The Lamb lies... : 3 A Trick of a Tail: 5 Wind and Wuthering: 3 Abacab: 1 Genesis: 1 Duke: 2 As for myself I put an extra vote on 'Selling England...' as well. As I said before, between 'Nursery Cryme' and 'Selling England...' is very hard to choose, but if I had to choose 1, that would be Nursery. But since almost all of you are voting for 2-3 albums, eh I took the opportunity as well!  Thanks again all of you that have posted their votes, and thanks to all of you that you will do it later on! :)
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 05:15
Tough call since they made quite a few masterpieces.
Pressed to choose it would have to be The Lamb because it's double lenght, but Nursery, Foxtrot and SEBTP are right up there.
Regarding Wind and Wuthering, I love it, from a composition standpoint I find it a very strong album, even a ballad like Afterglow is gorgeous. The only weak track is Your Own Special Way which is not a shame either.
Actually everything from Trespass and up to Duke are masterpieces IMO, except And Then There Were Three which while not being bad has never caught up my attention too much.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 05:46
Phillips/ Hackett Era: Selling England By The Pound Post Hackett: Invisible Touch
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Posted By: Cloud Forest
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 06:36
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 21:49
I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:21
HackettFan wrote:
I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that. |
Foxtrot is a fine album and is one of my all-time favorites. It's easy for me to understand why people pick it as their number one Genesis album just like I could easily see people picking Selling England By The Pound. I personally have a sentimental attachment to Nursery Cryme mainly for The Musical Box and The Fountain of Salmacis which made such a huge impression on me when I first heard them. Hearing pieces like Watcher of the Skies or Get 'Em Out By Friday is no different for me. Genesis were always such a creative band.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:58
Mirror Image wrote:
HackettFan wrote:
I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that. |
Foxtrot is a fine album and is one of my all-time favorites. It's easy for me to understand why people pick it as their number one Genesis album just like I could easily see people picking Selling England By The Pound. I personally have a sentimental attachment to Nursery Cryme mainly for The Musical Box and The Fountain of Salmacis which made such a huge impression on me when I first heard them. Hearing pieces like Watcher of the Skies or Get 'Em Out By Friday is no different for me. Genesis were always such a creative band. |
Don't get me wrong. I like it. I like it quite a bit. It's all relative, I guess. To me Foxtrot lost a lot of texture in the sound that Trespass and Nursery Cryme had, and which returned again with Selling England by the Pound and the Lamb.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 23:05
HackettFan wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
HackettFan wrote:
I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that. |
Foxtrot is a fine album and is one of my all-time favorites. It's easy for me to understand why people pick it as their number one Genesis album just like I could easily see people picking Selling England By The Pound. I personally have a sentimental attachment to Nursery Cryme mainly for The Musical Box and The Fountain of Salmacis which made such a huge impression on me when I first heard them. Hearing pieces like Watcher of the Skies or Get 'Em Out By Friday is no different for me. Genesis were always such a creative band. |
Don't get me wrong. I like it. I like it quite a bit. It's all relative, I guess. To me Foxtrot lost a lot of texture in the sound that Trespass and Nursery Cryme had, and which returned again with Selling England by the Pound and the Lamb. |
There's plenty of texture in Supper's Ready and Can-Utility and the Coastliners. I personally didn't like Trespass much at all, but, then again, I don't think much of Anthony Phillips now. He's a good player, but Genesis needed something more and someone who had more edge in their playing which Hackett delivered in spades. Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway are interesting albums, but as a whole they didn't convince me like Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot. I thought songs like The Battle of Epping Forest just went on for too long. Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, The Cinema Show, and Firth of Fifth are masterpieces. I need to give The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway another listen as I don't listen to it as much as others. I really have to take my time with it as it's a double album and there's a lot to take in.
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Posted By: N-sz
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 23:14
There's still a couple of their essential albums that I haven't heard yet (Foxtrot and Lamb) but from what I have now, I'm going with Nursery Cryme. I think it has the most overall theatrical and pretty sound.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 01:26
Tend to think SEBTP is a bit overrated. I inderstand that it has three of the best prog tracks ever (Dancing With The Moonlit Knight, Firth Of Fifth and Cinema Show) but the other stuff doesn't do much for me. Thoroughly bored with both Battle Of Epping Forest and I Know What I Like. I also find the performance and production a bit flat. There isn't the atmosphere of Lamb or the earthy feel of Foxtrot that I love. Nursery Cryme is obviously very popular and that is easy to understand but Foxtrot has songs I can connect with emotionally like Time Table and much of Suppers Ready. NC is much more fantasy/folklore based. If you are heavily into tales of hermaphrodites and giant plants then its wonderful stuff
Trespass has The Knife with Banks showing his Emerson aggressive style organ playing. The rest of that album I don't care for tbh.
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Posted By: Terra Australis
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 04:39
Mirror Image wrote:
From the Gabriel-era Genesis: Nursery CrymeFrom the Collins-era Genesis: Wind & Wuthering |
I agree with these. After Hackett left the only album that interests me is 'Genesis', mainly for mama which I really enjoy.
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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 06:28
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 06:45
Gabriel era / overall: Foxtrot (closely followed by SEbtP)
Post-Gabriel Hackett era: Wind and Wuthering
Collins era: a close call between Duke, Genesis and Invisible Touch
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 11:11
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 00:05
Deja Vu? 
70 - 74: Selling England closely followed by Foxtrot 75 - 77: Wind And Wuthering 78 - 00's: Duke closely followed by Abacab
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 00:27
Foxtrot
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Posted By: Meta
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 04:50
In the past I probably would have said Selling, but as I get older I love Lamb more and more. Such a cool, dark, creepy atmosphere.
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 10:07
Gabriel - Lamb Quartet - A Trick of the Tail Trio - Duke
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 12:11
Selling England By The Pound is probably my overall favorite. I am a complete nut and have collected loads of Anthony Phillips and Steve Hackett cd's too. I don't listen to Genesis on a regular basis. I find myself going through mood swings and then I will return to their music once again and enjoying it for hours. Very common for proggers like me who in a short time will be in the rest home. I was told over the phone by an old Genesis fanatic friend that the "Genesis Live" had been recently re-released with additional material from the show. I searched Amazon and couldn't find it. Is it a box set? Watcher of the Skies, Get Em' Out By Friday, Return of the Giant Hogweed, Musical Box and The KNife was the original track listing. What has been added to the show?
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Posted By: IMPF
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 12:29
Selling England by the Pound is by far the best, although Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme and Wind & Wuthering are all fantastic. I was actually surprised reading this thread, I thought I was like the only person on Earth who liked Wind & Wuthering.
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Posted By: BookofGenesis
Date Posted: September 28 2012 at 22:50
Very difficult, so I'll just do my favorite from both eras... Gabriel era: "Selling England by the Pound" Collins era: "A Trick of A Tail"
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 00:15
N-sz wrote:
There's still a couple of their essential albums that I haven't heard yet (Foxtrot and Lamb) but from what I have now, I'm going with Nursery Cryme. I think it has the most overall theatrical and pretty sound. |
Good choice! But, you must hear Foxtrot and the Lamb - soon...
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 03:17
Genesis is not my favorite band and I don't consider Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot or the Lamb to be a 5 stars album like a lot of people do. Anyway I'll choose Selling England By The Pound to be their best.
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Posted By: FunkyHomoSapien
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 05:03
lamb lies is classic genesis
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Posted By: Prog Snob
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 06:29
Gabriel era: Trespass
Hackett era (sans Gabriel): A Trick of the Tail
the trio era: none...
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 13:56
Foxtrot. Always been.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 14:28
lazland wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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I think it's because it's a fantastic album  |
Agreed, Good Sir Laz.
Wind & Wuthering is brilliant good. Only some very very biased Peter lovers and Phil haters would not see the obvious allure that is ATOTT & W&W.
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 14:30
dennismoore wrote:
Wind & Wuthering is brilliant good. Only some very very biased Peter lovers and Phil haters would not see the obvious allure that is ATOTT & W&W. |
Well, I'm not a Phil hater and I like Trick a lot. So no, the allure isn't obvious at all.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 14:30
The Jester wrote:
What is your most beloved album by Genesis?
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Simple:
Every record from Nursery Crime to Duke.
After buying the LPs and CDs many times, I bought the 5.1 box set and it is simply a trip to heaven listening to the 5.1 mixes.
God bless Peter & Phil & Tony & Steve & Mike
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 14:34
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
dennismoore wrote:
Wind & Wuthering is brilliant good. Only some very very biased Peter lovers and Phil haters would not see the obvious allure that is ATOTT & W&W. |
Well, I'm not a Phil hater and I like Trick a lot. So no, the allure isn't obvious at all.
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Hello m8,
Forgive me if I was a bit sharp.
I find your second comment even more amazing as I always thought that AToTT & W&W were perfect brother & sister albums. So I would think if you enjoy one you would dig the other. Last week I was blasting the SACD of Blood on the Rooftops on my 5.1 system and I thought that Steve Hackett was playing in my music room!
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 19:08
dennismoore wrote:
I find your second comment even more amazing as I always thought that AToTT & W&W were perfect brother & sister albums. So I would think if you enjoy one you would dig the other. |
Oh sure, they're very similar stylistically, but it just so happens that I like the songs on Trick and that I don't like most of the songs on Wind. "One for the Vine" in particular strikes me as a very unmemorable composition. But I'm starting to suspect that for a lot of prog fans, songwriting is of secondary importance. They're more interested in the sounds. And sound-wise, W&W is a world of its own. But I don't like the songs (save for "Eleventh Earl of Mar" and "Blood on the Rooftops"), and that kills it for me.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 20:54
I'm a Collins as singer disliker. I do however like (love) Blood on the Rooftops, One for the Vine, Your Own Special Way, and In that Quiet Earth. I do not like Afterglow, Eleventh Earl of Mar, and Wot Gorilla?. The band definitely should have chosen Please Don't Touch over Wot Gorilla?. Most have agreed there is both good and bad on W&W, but choosing it as THE favorite just does not compute for me. What would elevate Wind & Wuthering above Trick of the Tale? This is not to berate anyone. I may be lacking enlightenment. There is a nice and unique overall mood on W&W that I appreciate and that the title of album aptly describes and which transcends even the weak material (this is true for all Genesis albums). Admittedly, the task of choosing a favorite old Genesis album requires some difficult judgement calls. I politely dissed Foxtrot earlier on this thread as the weakest of the Gabriel era. I still think so, but then again that's what I've been listening to and enjoying over the last few days.
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Posted By: cryptist
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 17:50
Selling England By The Pound
which is a masterpiece at the top year (1973) of progressive rock!
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Posted By: Astral Traveller
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 18:02
Classic Era: Foxtrot
Collins-Banks-Rutherford-Hackett Era: Wind And Wuthering Three: Man Era: Genesis
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 18:16
Selling England by the Pound. Too bad Battle of Epping Forest is part of that album.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 18:21
TODDLER wrote:
Selling England By The Pound is probably my overall favorite. I am a complete nut and have collected loads of Anthony Phillips and Steve Hackett cd's too. I don't listen to Genesis on a regular basis. I find myself going through mood swings and then I will return to their music once again and enjoying it for hours. Very common for proggers like me who in a short time will be in the rest home. I was told over the phone by an old Genesis fanatic friend that the "Genesis Live" had been recently re-released with additional material from the show. I searched Amazon and couldn't find it. Is it a box set? Watcher of the Skies, Get Em' Out By Friday, Return of the Giant Hogweed, Musical Box and The KNife was the original track listing. What has been added to the show? |
I don't know about a version of "Genesis Live" with extra songs... but I have the Live Box-set, and that one has Genesis Live, and another live album, Live at the Rainbow (otherwise unavailable, as far as I know) which includes many songs that were not included on Genesis Live, among them "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight", "Cinema Show" and "Supper's Ready". As a matter of fact, I kind of liked the Rainbow album better than Genesis Live, and "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight" is so much better than the studio version. I find Collins much more fun to listen live than on studio, too.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 09:47
Dellinger wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
Selling England By The Pound is probably my overall favorite. I am a complete nut and have collected loads of Anthony Phillips and Steve Hackett cd's too. I don't listen to Genesis on a regular basis. I find myself going through mood swings and then I will return to their music once again and enjoying it for hours. Very common for proggers like me who in a short time will be in the rest home. I was told over the phone by an old Genesis fanatic friend that the "Genesis Live" had been recently re-released with additional material from the show. I searched Amazon and couldn't find it. Is it a box set? Watcher of the Skies, Get Em' Out By Friday, Return of the Giant Hogweed, Musical Box and The KNife was the original track listing. What has been added to the show? |
I don't know about a version of "Genesis Live" with extra songs... but I have the Live Box-set, and that one has Genesis Live, and another live album, Live at the Rainbow (otherwise unavailable, as far as I know) which includes many songs that were not included on Genesis Live, among them "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight", "Cinema Show" and "Supper's Ready". As a matter of fact, I kind of liked the Rainbow album better than Genesis Live, and "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight" is so much better than the studio version. I find Collins much more fun to listen live than on studio, too. |
I will be looking for this! Thank you.
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Posted By: menawati
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 11:11
but Battle of Epping Forest lyrics are hilarious and Gabriel singing that bit about Harold Demure is so funny.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 13:27
Dellinger wrote:
Selling England by the Pound. Too bad Battle of Epping Forest is part of that album. |
My favourite too but I consider the Battle of Epping Forest an essential part of that album.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 14:08
Dellinger wrote:
Selling England by the Pound. Too bad Battle of Epping Forest is part of that album. |
That's the best song on the album!
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 16:46
I am a Foxtrot guy, but it is a close race with SEBTP. Although I find myself listening to Then There Were Three quite often...
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Posted By: JamesYoungField
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 18:40
Selling England by the Pound :D
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Posted By: Cthulhu42
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 18:51
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 19:43
The Lamb
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Posted By: Ommadawn
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 20:03
Quintet: Selling England By The Pound Quartet: Wind & Wuthering Trio: Duke
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 00:14
lazland wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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I think it's because it's a fantastic album  |
Hear, hear!
My own favorite remains "Foxtrot," but I also believe "And Then There Were Three" is under-appreciated. I saw the tour (the first one with Daryl Stuermer) and they were excellent!
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 00:50

Almost every single track (except "Harold the Barrel", that is) is just ... beyond ... beyond!
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 01:10
^ It is an incredible work by the band. I still believe that no band has surpassed Genesis in terms of prog output. Even listening to Trespass still gives me goosebumps after 40 years.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 01:40
^ [with great, freaking great pride] I used to hate it; now I just love it. 
Anyway, in case if anybody gives a flying crap about the current scores, well ... here's a rough tally (because I was freaking bored):
1970 - Trespass - 3 1971 - Nursery Cryme - 8 1972 - Foxtrot - 12 1973 - Selling England by the Pound - 14 1974 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 9 1976 - A Trick of the Tail - 11 1977 - Wind and Wuthering - 8 1980 - Duke - 5 1981 - Abacab - 1 1983 - Genesis - 3 1986 - Invisible Touch - 1
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Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 06:01
I would definitely swap Trespass and W&W ratings....
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 06:14
Most times its The Lamb. Still is.
BTW Harold the Barrel is a work of genious. Well slight exageration but its marvelous
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 07:02
Nursery Cryme.
I really dig the logo they had for this, Foxtrot and Live.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 07:51
Script For A Jester's Tear. 
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Posted By: Josef_K
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 08:51
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
Foxtrot comes close, but nothing beats the lamb. Anything without Gabriel is miles away from anything with Gabriel, and yes that DOES include the debut.
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Posted By: Apollo2112
Date Posted: October 16 2012 at 14:57
Posted By: Apollo2112
Date Posted: October 16 2012 at 14:58
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Most times its The Lamb. Still is.
BTW Harold the Barrel is a work of genious. Well slight exageration but its marvelous |
Yes... Harold the Barrel is awesome! 
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Posted By: the only sane man
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 06:53
The Lamb and Duke for me
....although if you asked me tomorrow it might be Foxtrot and A Trick Of The Tail 
My favorite band of all time - simple as that! 
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Posted By: javier0889
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 07:40
Trespass and Duke. Both amazing and beautiful records. Also I think the ebst thing about W&W was the album art. It's not the worst album ever, but I'd say Genesis released better stuff before and after that album (Calling all Stations doesn't really counts).
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 08:11
FOXTROT
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Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 10:50
javier0889 wrote:
Trespass and Duke.Both amazing and beautiful records. Also I think the ebst thing about W&W was the album art. It's not the worst album ever, but I'd say Genesis released better stuff before and after that album (Calling all Stations doesn't really counts). |
I prefer Duke much more than W&W, for example..
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 11:00
Am I alone here in thinking that they don't have any really bad albums? (maybe with the exception of their very last 2-man Calling all Stations) Actually, Abacab might also be qualified as bad. The only 3-or-more-man Genesis album that is really bad. I even enjoy Invisible Touch and Genesis.
Their best? I'd say Foxtrot, followed by SEBTP, A Trick of the Tail, and And Then There Were Three, for me a masterpiece that needs to be seen under a different light. The cult of Peter Gabriel has cast a bad spell over gems that deserve better.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 11:02
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 11:10
The T wrote:
Am I alone here in thinking that they don't have any really bad albums? (maybe with the exception of their very last 2-man Calling all Stations) Actually, Abacab might also be qualified as bad. The only 3-or-more-man Genesis album that is really bad. I even enjoy Invisible Touch and Genesis.
Their best? I'd say Foxtrot, followed by SEBTP, A Trick of the Tail, and And Then There Were Three, for me a masterpiece that needs to be seen under a different light. The cult of Peter Gabriel has cast a bad spell over gems that deserve better.
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There is no Genesis album I think is bad.Even Calling All Stations has grown on me. It could have been so much more though. It's kinda lacklustre
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 11:31
I should really give Calling all Stations another try. I barely gave it a chance. Bought it when it came out and tossed it away on the same day. I was actually expecting Phil to be on it 
Somehow I missed the memo.
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Posted By: Lifeofprog
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 10:32
My fave cd's would be "Trespass" and "And then there were three."
Trespass:
The Trespass album to me is the picture of a band that is still searching for it's voice,still rough in the mix yet contains a very organic sound and vision.At times this albums sounds very close to VDGG and that's not strange since they were both label mates and toured together..
And then there were three:
It took me years to finally acknowledge Collins-era Genesis.What most people don't realize is that his singing has graced almost all of the Genesis albums he he has played on.I was constantly dissing all the post Gabriel and Hackett albums till one day a friend made a copy of Wind and Wuthering.After that I was hooked.Ane then there were three still has the prog compositions and very Hackett-esque guitar courtesy of Mike R.A very upbeat album.
Trouser Press years back made the brilliant observation that Genesis didn't lose its edge after Gabriel left but after Hackett left.Even though I love Duke I think it's pretty fair to say that Trouser Press in my op' was close to the mark in their observation.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 11:00
You know this is actually an easy one for me just because I have so much love for what it's done for the Neo prog genre. Basically started the Neo wave. Anyway, A TRICK OF THE TAIL. Hands down.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 11:05
I know people compare the Fish years Marillion with Genesis a lot, but I think the similarities are not that strong!! Nice o e DEAN.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 15:40
1970 - Trespass - 5 1971 - Nursery Cryme - 9 1972 - Foxtrot - 14 1973 - Selling England by the Pound - 14 1974 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 12 1976 - A Trick of the Tail - 12 1977 - Wind and Wuthering - 8 1978 - And Then There Were Three - 1 1980 - Duke - 7 1981 - Abacab - 1 1983 - Genesis - 3 1986 - Invisible Touch - 1
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Posted By: menawati
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 21:23
Lamb
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: October 20 2012 at 05:15
progbethyname wrote:
I know people compare the Fish years Marillion with Genesis a lot, but I think the similarities are not that strong!! Nice o e DEAN.  |
The similarities are there imo including Fish's voice which sounds a lot like Peter Gabriel and the way the songs are stretched out with keyboard and guitar solos. The drumming style is different though and Rothery's guitar work sounds more like Brian May than Steve Hackett. Mark Kelly does sound a little like Tony Banks at times but who has the stronger influence on the Marillion sound? The early seventies Genesis sound or mid seventies Art Rock music of bands such as Queen and David Bowie?
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 20 2012 at 09:53
iluvmarillion wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
I know people compare the Fish years Marillion with Genesis a lot, but I think the similarities are not that strong!! Nice o e DEAN.  |
The similarities are there imo including Fish's voice which sounds a lot like Peter Gabriel and the way the songs are stretched out with keyboard and guitar solos. The drumming style is different though and Rothery's guitar work sounds more like Brian May than Steve Hackett. Mark Kelly does sound a little like Tony Banks at times but who has the stronger influence on the Marillion sound? The early seventies Genesis sound or mid seventies Art Rock music of bands such as Queen and David Bowie? |
You know at first i didn't think Fish sounded at all like Gabreil, but now I definately detect a similarity when Fish sings softly into the note. You are right on that one. Mark Kelly sounding like Banks? Na. Don't agree there, but I do find your Rothery/May comparison with Hackett. Please tell me what Queen albums where May sounds like Rothery? I'm very curious on that one ;) anyway. Still a great album though. Hey! Can I change my vote to script!!!? Just kidding.
Also one last thing, did you feel that the guitar was massively scaled back in the album Wind and Wurthering? I think it was.
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: October 20 2012 at 10:18
progbethyname wrote:
Also one last thing, did you feel that the guitar was massively scaled back in the album Wind and Wurthering? I think it was. |
Not necessarily massively, as the guitar wasn't very prominent on Trick either, but it's noticeable. On one hand, this contributes to the album's own unique sound. On the other, maybe I wouldn't be as bored if there were more guitar.
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Posted By: Reiger
Date Posted: October 20 2012 at 11:02
Selling England... But Wind and Wuthering deserves a special mention for (1) Eleventh Earl of Mar, whose proud martial beat just shouts confidence (as the group proved on the prior Trick of the Tail that it could succeed without Gabriel), and (2) One for the Vine with it exhilarating instrumental break, which I'll never tire of.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 20 2012 at 12:23
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Also one last thing, did you feel that the guitar was massively scaled back in the album Wind and Wurthering? I think it was. | Not necessarily massively, as the guitar wasn't very prominent on Trick either, but it's noticeable. On one hand, this contributes to the album's own unique sound. On the other, maybe I wouldn't be as bored if there were more guitar. |
they started weeding out Hackett by each growing year....and then in 1978 their where 3, which is not a bad album too. Nice precursor to DUKE. You could really here and see what sound direction Genesis wanted to take. Enter POPI PHIL!!! Lol
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