Most dedicated/passionate fans?
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Topic: Most dedicated/passionate fans?
Posted By: AlexDOM
Subject: Most dedicated/passionate fans?
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 15:37
| Of all the prog bands across all genres and sub genres which band do you think has the most dedicated and passionate fan base? |
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 15:46
It would help, old chap, if you gave us a few options on a poll To answer your question, I would plump for Yes. We all, really, should have given up years ago. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 16:04
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Dream Theater is the only logical answer. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 16:07
But Andy, in terms of lineup changes and general shenanigans, including a couple of real bum albums, DT are pure amateurs in comparison. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Andy Webb wrote:Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 16:28
True, but in terms of fanatically obsessed fans, I think they win. I can count myself among them. I mean, they had Falling into Infinity and the departure of Mike Portnoy.  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 16:39
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DT and Tool have had some pretty rabid fans frequent PA. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 17:07
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Van Der Graaf Generator.
I think every fan they have is on this site and their loyalty is astonishing; VDGG NEVER feature much in other prog groups I'm involved in. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 17:07
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Rush. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 17:26
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DT and Magma. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 17:35
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Yeah, I'd say Rush, Dream Theater and Magma have some the biggest fanbases in rock music. I would think The Mars Volta have a very large cult following as well, even from the very start of their career. A lot of fans were pulled over from the At The Drive In days, prior, plus Deloused was a huge album with tons of commercial success and critical reception.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 17:42
You're wrong. Not about the loyalty, but VdGG feature outside your prog groups, and are among the few that I've get (positive) attention in different music magazines from Mojo & Uncut to The Wire. Something that could never happen to bands like Camel, Gentle Giant or ELP. They're one of the few UK progbands (along with Henry Cow , King Crimson and Soft Machine... basically all the ones you dislike the most) that's got crossover potential, and has music interested fans coming from all over the musical map. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 18:07
Firstly, I like Soft Machine; I've never said otherwise.
"but VdGG feature outside your prog groups, and are among the few that I've get (positive) attention in different music magazines from Mojo & Uncut to The Wire"
Given that all the other three bands are defunct or only perform sporadically whilst VDGG are an active band, that is hardly surprising. And I certainly don't consider those magazines to be of any merit whatsoever. However, in the 70s all three bands you quote were considerably more prominent and featured much more in the music press (NME, Melody Maker, Sounds) than VDGG ever did (except in Italy, perhaps); in ELP's case, vastly so.
In my local prog group (150 active members and rising), we have only played about 3 VDGG tracks in all the time I've been attending; all three of the bands you quote feature practically every time. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 19:08
| Oh, well. I feel there's one huge band, with a huge and dedicated fan-base, that hasn't been mentioned yet. Pink Floyd. Within and outside of prog, they have one of the biggest fan-bases. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 19:12
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I would think a poll actually requires the presence of a poll. Dream Theater and Rush seem to have the most rabidly dedicated fans around her. I don't share their enthusiasm and no disrespect. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 19:41
I was thinking Rush no. 1, Floyd no. 2, and maybe even Crimson no. 3.
OK, I'm changing it: Floyd - no. 1 Rush - no. 2 Crimson - no. 3
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 20:31
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Zappa's fanbase is pretty solid I would think. And Pink Floyd! DT and Tool are obvious ones, and we had much fun with it a while back  ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 20:49
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Judging by the recent NA tour and the Montreal Weekend I attended, then Marillion has a rabid fanbase!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: ScorchedFirth
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 20:50
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Marillion's online support that allows them the freedom to make records on their own terms is a good argument for the current Marillion fans. They even have like a marillion convention every 2 years or something. (i don't know so much myself as I am mostly interested in the fish era stuff)
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 03:02
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I've always been impressed by the King-Crimson-forever fanbase's lust. Of course, I do not mean King Crimson is overrated. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 04:02
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Samoan Noseflute |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:13
It's not about those magazine's merits. I'm just proving you wrong. Although VdGG were relatively obscure in the UK when you grew up, they now have have a much broader fanbase than most of your favorite progbands (not necessarily containing more people). Although the three bands I qoute were considerably more prominent and featured much more in the NME, Melody Maker, Sounds etc in the 70's, they are never featured anywhere outside the specialised progpress anymore (except on worst albums ever lists). That was more or less the point I was trying to make. You think every VdGG van is on this site, but its more likely that every Camel fan is here. So while ELP are ridiculed everywhere except in local prog groups and on PA, VdGG's influence and fanbase grows larger every year, and even reaches people not interested in prog. Its not about my tastes against yours, I love both Camel and GG, and only buy the magazines I mentioned if I notice they got special features on kraut, psych, progressive electronic, jazzrock, RIO or KC/VdGG etc...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:30
Steve, this is irrelevant to the question. I agree with DT ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:33
This makes a lot of sense to me about VDGG having a broader appeal. But ELP are ridiculed here also, so your wrong about that. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:36
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I think Genesis, Yes and DT has the largest fan base here, rating almost every album with 5 stars. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:42
Can't say I noticed. I don't do this is all I can say. And I know others don't.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:43
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Beatless have the most dedicated fanbase, you could dig up the worst thinkable album based on the worst demo tapes, and it would go trible platinum is a few days. would be all over the media, and would get insane airplay. They are ahead of every other rock band by a large margin. Strictly prog. my guess is that Genesis & Floyd would be able to fill the larges spaces. Regarding very loyal fans (i love everything they did) , i guess Tool, Crimson, & DT got a good amount of those. I dont count, cos im not a fanatic Crimson fan, im a fanatic Fripp fan
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:48
The question was not directed at PA was it ? ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:51
I think it is. The question is "Of all the prog bands across all genres and sub genres which band...." EDIT: You're right, I totally forgot about The Beatles and Pink Floyd, they do have a massive fan base. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 05:53
I noticed it many times. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 06:05
Yes i read that....but it dosent say Of all the prog bands across all genres and sub genres which band..........ON PA. Its two very diffrent questions - out in the real world Crimson/GG/Van der graf. would not be that big, but here they are huge. Genesis / Floyd / DT the other way around. Basicly on PA easy to get into dosent make extra fans, outside it does. And nothing wrong with that, we are not a radio station selling bubble gum based on listner ratings.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 06:24
I know that, that's why I didn't include KC or GG, which seem to have as much fans here as Pink Floyd, Beatles, Yes or Genesis, but outside they don't match. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 07:14
Show me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:24
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Remember, the question is which bands have the most dedicated and passionate fans, not the most amount of fans. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:42
Pretty much anyone who rates Train Of Thoughts to be equally as good as Scenes From A Memory. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:59
You are speaking nonsense. Why can't someone think it is as good? I would give it 5 stars. But I was thinking of examples of the other bands you cited.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:09
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Torman Maxt
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:11
| I didn't say it was wrong, I would rate a lot of albums 5 stars that most people wouldn't, what I mean is that a passionate fan would probably do that. Same goes for the other bands I cited. You can look it up yourself, I saw several times when 5 stars ratings were granted for entire discographies. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:18
Yes but that is just freaks and can apply to any band under the sun. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:23
| They are just die hard fans, and there are a lot of them here. I would say I'm a huge fan of KC but I won't give half their albums 5 stars. |
Posted By: Josh18293
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 00:15
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Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 00:54
Genesis - no. 1 Rush - no. 2 Floyd - no. 3 |
Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 01:07
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I believe that the bands with the most dedicated fans are the following: Rush Marillion Van Der Graaf King Crimson Genesis I'm talking about the Prog part of Rock music. ------------- If anybody wants please visit: http://www.gfreedomathina.blogspot.com/ This is my Blog mostly about Rock music, but also a few other things as well. You are most welcome! Thank you. :) |