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Topic: New teenage member interested in prog.
Posted By: Ancient Tree
Subject: New teenage member interested in prog.
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 14:57
I'm 14 almost 15 years old boy from Europe and my dad listens to prog,jazz,old rock (and he has  some really bad ass sound speakers and amplifier.)So since i started to walk he thought me about great music.And prog is what i  liked the most of the genres.I'm mostly new to prog,and i also listen to hardcore,folk punk,folk metal,jazz but I'm not into today's music infect i hate it. Kids my age mostly  isolates me because of my music (they all listen to dubstep rap,pop sh*t so they aren't not worth my time,but i managed to find three friends that listen to rock,metal,punk-still better than dubstep) I'm an vegetarian and i love extreme sports i'm also active in running and skiing.Also i forgot to mantion that im from an social democrat family so im also interested in politics.Well what else,oh yea check this,when i went into mountains this morning:




I'm going to high school now and that school is pretty much marked as the nerd kingdom,so im hopping that i will find some good music  fans there.If not im just going to stick with you guys here.

See you around




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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:15
Hi. I see you already got yer sig working. What country are you from exactly? I wish I had enough time and money to do some skiing.

Vegetarian? I know a girl from high school who got sick because she didn't consume enough of protein or something. I don't know much about vegetarian nutrition. I wish I didn't have to eat animals and not get sick.

What bands (prog bands for that matter) are you into?

Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Kids my age mostly  isolates me because of my music (they all listen to dubstep rap,pop sh*t so they aren't not worth my time,but i managed to find three friends that listen to rock,metal,punk-still better than dubstep)

Don't know much about dubstep, to be honest. Here on PA we try to promote open-mindedness, albeit lots of minds have their limits, so watch out for pirates on our forum.


Posted By: deliriumofthethrush
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:24
Welcome!  It's good to hear you stick by your preferences and interests even when you feel isolated.  I remember that feeling through school, but by high school I branched out and my friends existed more in my local music scene than school.  And even if that's not an option for you, sounds like your Dad has your back ;)

I also don't eat meat - I've been vegan for 4 years, and was vegetarian for 4 or 5 before that.  Don't let anyone tell you it's unhealthy or dangerous, because it's not.  People can make bad nutritional decisions, but there is nothing that exists in an omnivores diet that cannot be found in a vegetarian or vegan diet.


Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:26
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Hi. I see you already got yer sig working. What country are you from exactly? I wish I had enough time and money to do some skiing.

Vegetarian? I know a girl from high school who got sick because she didn't consume enough of protein or something. I don't know much about vegetarian nutrition. I wish I didn't have to eat animals and not get sick.

What bands (prog bands for that matter) are you into?

Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Kids my age mostly  isolates me because of my music (they all listen to dubstep rap,pop sh*t so they aren't not worth my time,but i managed to find three friends that listen to rock,metal,punk-still better than dubstep)

Don't know much about dubstep, to be honest. Here on PA we try to promote open-mindedness, albeit lots of minds have their limits, so watch out for pirates on our forum.

Vegetarian: well she wans an vegetarian then she was an vegan,vegetarians still eat sea food,and animal products,when vegans eat just vegetables nothing else,also this could come cuz she didnt eat enough different
 vegetables.
Well im an vegetarian for quite some time,and im very active in sports,kayaking,skiing,running,... and i have exercises every day,and i still fill fine and full of energy.

Bands: well i listen to all bands that i discovered on progrockarchive. Also i listen to some hardcore punk,and folk metal. 

well dubstep this is dubstep


biggest crime in the history of earth,when i listen to this my head wants to run away and make an suicide 




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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:29
^If  a vegetarian eats seafood then they are not vegetarian.

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Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:29

Originally posted by deliriumofthethrush deliriumofthethrush wrote:

Welcome!  It's good to hear you stick by your preferences and interests even when you feel isolated.  I remember that feeling through school, but by high school I branched out and my friends existed more in my local music scene than school.  And even if that's not an option for you, sounds like your Dad has your back ;)

I also don't eat meat - I've been vegan for 4 years, and was vegetarian for 4 or 5 before that.  Don't let anyone tell you it's unhealthy or dangerous, because it's not.  People can make bad nutritional decisions, but there is nothing that exists in an omnivores diet that cannot be found in a vegetarian or vegan diet.

wow dude 4 years of vegan amazing.
im planning of staying vegetarian for 15 years then im going to travel into Bosnia will stuff myself with meat and then go vegetarian for life.(still dont know if im going to do this)

But i have problem finding GF that are vegetarian.
 Cry Foreva alone! Cry


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Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:31
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^If  a vegetarian eats seafood then they are not vegetarian.

 ah no nononono Tongue

vegetarians:
we eat all food except meat
so we eat animal products
and sea food


Vegans:
vegans eat only vegetables,nothing else,nor animal product nothing just vegetables. 


do you get it? Big smile


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:33
Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^If  a vegetarian eats seafood then they are not vegetarian.

 ah no nononono Tongue

vegetarians:
we eat all food except meat
so we eat animal products
and sea food


Vegans:
vegans eat only vegetarians,nothing else,nor animal product nothing just vegetables. 


do you get it? Big smile

You are wrong. Do you get it?

I know some eat fish and claim to be vegetrian but they and I know they are wrong.


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Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:41
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^If  a vegetarian eats seafood then they are not vegetarian.

 ah no nononono Tongue

vegetarians:
we eat all food except meat
so we eat animal products
and sea food


Vegans:
vegans eat only vegetarians,nothing else,nor animal product nothing just vegetables. 


do you get it? Big smile

You are wrong. Do you get it?

I know some eat fish and claim to be vegetrian but they and I know they are wrong.
ok ok you win,im not going to argue,all hail snow dog Clap


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:44
Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^If  a vegetarian eats seafood then they are not vegetarian.

 ah no nononono Tongue

vegetarians:
we eat all food except meat
so we eat animal products
and sea food


Vegans:
vegans eat only vegetarians,nothing else,nor animal product nothing just vegetables. 


do you get it? Big smile

You are wrong. Do you get it?

I know some eat fish and claim to be vegetrian but they and I know they are wrong.
ok ok you win,im not going to argue,all hail snow dog Clap

That's kinda patronising. 


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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:46
BOW TO SNOW GOD KING OF THE WORLD

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:55
^don't you start!

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:57
A vegetarian who eats fish is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism" rel="nofollow - pescatarian .

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Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 16:10
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

A vegetarian who eats fish is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism" rel="nofollow - pescatarian .


well khm khm
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/family-nutrition/vegetarian-diets/12-frequently-asked-questions-about-vegetarian-diet

  • Pesco-vegetarians eat fish, dairy products, and eggs along with plant foods. (We believe this is the healthiest diet for most people).

oh well you are right then Tongue but its much easier to say that you are an vegetarian than pescatarian Confused who even remebers or knows the meaning of this word


p.s: thanks for some extra info Cool


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 16:16
Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

A vegetarian who eats fish is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism" rel="nofollow - pescatarian .


well khm khm
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/family-nutrition/vegetarian-diets/12-frequently-asked-questions-about-vegetarian-diet

  • Pesco-vegetarians eat fish, dairy products, and eggs along with plant foods. (We believe this is the healthiest diet for most people).

oh well you are right then Tongue but its much easier to say that you are an vegetarian than pescatarian Confused who even remebers or knows the meaning of this word


p.s: thanks for some extra info Cool


Much easier, but less accurate.  Wink


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Posted By: deliriumofthethrush
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 21:07
I'm glad to see these replies, I was a little concerned by the lack of understanding.  There are many sub-categories of diets leading up to vegetarian that I would never call vegetarian.

But to correct the comments about vegan: Veganism is not a diet consisting only of vegetables.  Veganism is the ideal pursuit of avoiding all animal products not just in diet but in lifestyle.  I eat grains, vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, mushrooms and protein alternatives (tofu, tempeh, seitan).

I don't mean to stray too far from your introduction post, but it's nice to have the right info out there. ;)


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 21:11
Originally posted by deliriumofthethrush deliriumofthethrush wrote:

I'm glad to see these replies, I was a little concerned by the lack of understanding.  There are many sub-categories of diets leading up to vegetarian that I would never call vegetarian.

But to correct the comments about vegan: Veganism is not a diet consisting only of vegetables.  Veganism is the ideal pursuit of avoiding all animal products not just in diet but in lifestyle.  I eat grains, vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, mushrooms and protein alternatives (tofu, tempeh, seitan).

I don't mean to stray too far from your introduction post, but it's nice to have the right info out there. ;)


Animals poop on the ground, which leads to some plants.  I doubt there are any true vegans.  Wink


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Posted By: deliriumofthethrush
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 21:42
You missed "the ideal pursuit of avoiding all animal products."  Veganism is not a perfected, absolute abstinence, it's the honest and committed endeavor of avoiding everything as humanly possible.  Books are often bound with glues that are still animal derived.  Stamps as well.

Your "animal poop" comment is pretty silly, don't you think?  The circle of life and the natural process of organic renewal still exists and there is no denying that.  Let's not get carried with playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of it.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 21:47
Originally posted by deliriumofthethrush deliriumofthethrush wrote:

You missed "the ideal pursuit of avoiding all animal products."  Veganism is not a perfected, absolute abstinence, it's the honest and committed endeavor of avoiding everything as humanly possible.  Books are often bound with glues that are still animal derived.  Stamps as well.

Your "animal poop" comment is pretty silly, don't you think?  The circle of life and the natural process of organic renewal still exists and there is no denying that.  Let's not get carried with playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of it.


No, I think the attempt to avoid anything that is animal-derived is silly.  You are, ultimately, animal derived.  So am I.

Do you pass on walking because of all the insects you may crush?  Or driving?  Lots of bugs killed there.  Birds sometimes too.


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 22:01
^ Guys, you might want to take that discussion to the "Who are you (in terms of food)" thread.


Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 23:21

I try to go vegetarian every couple of meals or so...


(shows comeplete misunderstanding of any concepts)


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wtf


Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 00:21
Originally posted by deliriumofthethrush deliriumofthethrush wrote:

You missed "the ideal pursuit of avoiding all animal products."  Veganism is not a perfected, absolute abstinence, it's the honest and committed endeavor of avoiding everything as humanly possible.  Books are often bound with glues that are still animal derived.  Stamps as well.

Your "animal poop" comment is pretty silly, don't you think?  The circle of life and the natural process of organic renewal still exists and there is no denying that.  Let's not get carried with playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of it.


oh yea i have just an questions: i eat soy is this bad?


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 00:22
Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

well dubstep this is dubstep


biggest crime in the history of earth,when i listen to this my head wants to run away and make an suicide

When I think of dubstep I prefer to forget music like that and think of stuff like this:

Tongue

And welcome!



Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 04:04
PA, turning friendly introductions into dietary ethics arguments since 2004Approve

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 04:31
Welcome Ancient Tree!

That is a beautiful landscape to wake up to!

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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 09:21
welcome to PA, are you an Oak, or a ecalyptus... both trees are very old




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Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 11:50
 A Person
wow dude that track is awesome ! 

ExittheLemming
progrock archive is 8 years old,happy birth day!

Blacksword
yes it kinda is,it is really an beautiful valley,but that valley is filled mostly with people i dont likeWacko 

aginor
Im a sekvoia,yeey



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Posted By: deliriumofthethrush
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 14:23
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Guys, you might want to take that discussion to the "Who are you (in terms of food)" thread.


You're right, this is definitely not the place for a personal discussion like that.  I apologize to everyone for getting off track.


Posted By: deliriumofthethrush
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 14:25
Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

Originally posted by deliriumofthethrush deliriumofthethrush wrote:

You missed "the ideal pursuit of avoiding all animal products."  Veganism is not a perfected, absolute abstinence, it's the honest and committed endeavor of avoiding everything as humanly possible.  Books are often bound with glues that are still animal derived.  Stamps as well.

Your "animal poop" comment is pretty silly, don't you think?  The circle of life and the natural process of organic renewal still exists and there is no denying that.  Let's not get carried with playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of it.


oh yea i have just an questions: i eat soy is this bad?


Feel free to send me a PM.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 14:59
Originally posted by deliriumofthethrush deliriumofthethrush wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Guys, you might want to take that discussion to the "Who are you (in terms of food)" thread.


You're right, this is definitely not the place for a personal discussion like that.  I apologize to everyone for getting off track.

Besides which I already listed all the varietarians there.  I don't wanna have to do that again. Tongue


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 21 2012 at 03:08
Meanwhile, back on topic...

Originally posted by Ancient Tree Ancient Tree wrote:

I'm going to high school now and that school is pretty much marked as the nerd kingdom


If that's the case, you should be surrounded by progressive rock fans

Welcome to the forums, enjoy your stay.

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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 04:39
Hello and welcome...

Don't restrict yourself by devoting yourself to one set of genres. A bunch of new music is very talented and pleasant to listen to.




Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 07:39
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

PA, turning friendly introductions into dietary ethics arguments since 2004Approve

That reply was so epic it made me cry.

Welcome brah!

tis the place where vegetarian hippies and Satanists meet! Sometimes those hippies and Satanist are the same person (*cough* like myself *cough*)

also there's a lot of good hip hop!


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