But I wanna do it again!

For me, the answer is a gigantic NOOOOOOOOOO.

I just hate cigars, cigarettes, Marijuana (well to a lesser extent but am not a fan of). But cigarettes- smell bad, bad manners, slowly kill me passively, and so on. 

 

 

I could be pursuaded!

Hope he stops, it's truly one of those things that almost always social unfortunately.

No other stuff in over a decade

Brilliant. Made my night!

I have smoked since the age of 14. Given up about three times seriously, the last on the electric ciggie thingies. Me and the missus lasted on those for a few weeks, and then took an extremely wise & mature decision to go back on the real things.

Terrible habit, I know, But, you know what? I enjoy it, and don't give a toss.

My favourite 'Carry On' film.  'Frying Tonight!'

 

You can only give up when you want to.  I gave up about 6 years ago.  I wanted to.

+1. Passively, but rarely.

You b*****d! I can feel my lungs getting blacker! And cancerier.

 

I do smoke hookah about once a month or so, about as often as I drink.

It's interesting, I only have one friend who smokes and he's about 5 years older than me. I think smoking is fading away.

first bicycles and now this :O

you dirty dirty man.

I'll be a third member of the "Pantera Bread" group.

I haven't been to a hookah bar in years but they were always fun. I slipped dollar bills into the belly dancer's bra :O

We go hard in NC.

dean (2nd January 2008) wrote: I use to be ambivalent towards non-smokers but of late I find myself becoming less tolerant to the point of being internally quite belligerent. Since my self-control and will-power has already been proven to be weak it is only a matter of time before I lose the ability to keep those pugnacious feelings to myself. And to be perfectly honest, I am looking forward to that day.

 

 

Four years on and nothing's changed - I'd still like to be an aggressive smoker... if I'm going to stand accused and punished without trial for being rude and inconsiderate then I may as well be rude and inconsiderate; if I'm going to be treated like a second-class citizen then I see no reason not to behave like one. But it's not in my nature to be that impolite unless grossly provoked, the best I can manage is to be politely unapologetic. I was always a polite and conciderate smoker before so why should I tolerate aggressive non-smokers now.

 

When some non-smoker does that comical pantomime waive of disdain when some smoke drifts within 30 metres of their airspace (come on, you've all done it) I will reciprocate with an disdainful waive of dismissal of equal proportion. If that results in some haughty retort then I will politely explain that if the odour offends them then they should move away - they have that choice. I have become a lot less tolerant of non-smokers demands - I am already reduced to smoking outside, way from doorways and open windows - I am as far away from them as it is practical to be, it seems only fair that they place themselves as far away from me as it is practical to be - a little respect goes a long way.

 

It has never been my intention to share my smoke with anyone, I'm not a sharing person.

Go Heroin!

I heartily agree with  every sentiment expressed.

We need space to not allways be those perfect machines, doing everything right !

Some like to smoke, some eat an unhealthy load of crap, some drink, some like to paint with unhealty oli colours, some like to drive in stupid hungry cars.   

Some like to climb dangerous cliffs, some like to dive in caves.

 

LETS DO WHAT WE WANT, WE ARE NOT MACHINES MADE TO PRODUCE AS MUSH AS POSSIBLE, AT THE LOWEST COST POSSIBLE, WE ARE HUMANS !! 

I had to google it. It sounds intense :O

tamijo wrote: Totaly fed up with all that, I want to tell You how to live your life  We need space to not allways be those perfect machines, doing everything right ! Some like to smoke, some eat an unhealthy load of crap, some drink, some like to paint with unhealty oli colours, some like to drive in stupid hungry cars.    Some like to climb dangerous cliffs, some like to dive in caves.   LETS DO WHAT WE WANT, WE ARE NOT MACHINES MADE TO PRODUCE AS MUSH AS POSSIBLE, AT THE LOWEST COST POSSIBLE, WE ARE HUMANS !!

It's not really the "smoking is de-moral" it's more a "you're smoking and it smells bad and makes me stink and gives me cancer [though probably minimal]".

@Dean- I'm sorry but I can't agree. Unless you're far away from me, it's annoying, I'm sorry it just is. But you're in the U.K., so you can smoke as much as you want. 

It's kinda like someone constantly farting in public, only farting doesn't give me cancer. 

If you do it at the comfort of your own home, then it's all good.

Restaurants, venues, clubs (lol I don't go to clubs). If it's totally in an outside area and the smoke is right beside me then I don't mind. But I'm tired coming back home in the middle of the night from a show smelling like cigarettes- it's disgusting. 

And cigars= 10 times worse than cigarettes. They smell like hell.

Well played 

I've been to "Chili's" though. The public seems to be able to control their flux capacitor.

 

Im not in doubt that you dont like it, that was clear.

But the question is, is it my problem, that you got this neurosis, beliving a little cigarette smoke, might be a real danger to your helth.

You may be the kind of person, avoiding any kind of risk, not using cemical soap, never driving cars, only eating

biodynamic food, using only biodynamic cloths ect.

In that case, you are generally paranoid, sad story.

You may also be the person, doing everything as most people do, in that case, Your problem is a tobacco neurosis.

 

In any case, its your problem, not mine.

We are all gonna die, smoking or no smoking, and we are ganna have a lot more fun, if we allow each other a little space, and some respect.

 

Im fine with smoking outside, but im sick of this "perfect world", constantly trying to force everyone to be the same.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you think I'm enforcing everybody to be the same? There's a reason why I support something like gay marriage and oppose public smoking. Gay marriage doesn't affect me directly in any way, I'm just allowing more freedom to other people, without getting any actual physical damage. 

Smoking doesn't have any benefit to anyone- in any physical way. Cars take from one place to another, cellphones can save lives, and connect people, and bad food is another story altogether. Cigarettes, are just bad- there's nothing real about them that's good, nothing that benefits you. The social pan of smoking is again- another story.

As I've stated before, I don't really think the minimal exposition I have to cigarette is what will kill me. I do say, that public spaces, particularly closed public spaces- the amount of cigarette smoke I have to inhale is disgusting- and when it's too much does hamper my current health (not saying it gives me cancer, just makes me nauseous). It also smells bad and makes me and everyone around me smell like sh*t. Is that fair to me?

 

People stink - it's a biological fact and a result of our body physiology - we are one of the stinkiest critters on the planet - your sweat sinks and grows increasing more repugnant, the fungal growth between your toes pongs like rotting cheese, your breath stinks of your last meal, your belches reek like the dregs from a fermentation vat and your ess-aitch-eye-tea stinks of the meal before that and makes sure all can share in its stinky foulness by farting early warning messages of just how paint-strippingly putrid your next dump will be. And then we try and mask all that natural toxic gas with cheap Walmart body spray yet all we achieve is the fragrance of a urinal toilet block that's been pissed on for a week. I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke and I don't like the smell of an old ashtray, but that's no worse than the lingering after-aroma of the human race. Since smoking has been banned in all pubs and bars I dislike going into them, not because I can no longer smoke, but because the smells they now carry are unpleasant, repellent and offensive - the stench of stale beer mingling with lingering presence of stale sweat, the air laden with eau de beer farts and garlic and onion belches competing with the unmistakable aroma of disinfectant and industrial strength cleaning fluid wafting in from the toilets and the wretch of putrefying chip-fat from the kitchen. You don't like the smell of cigarettes - good for you, you can walk away from it.

 

Now but you see- in a closed public space- I can't walk away from the smell without leaving the closed public space! It's a problem ain't it. I want to be in a show, and the place smells like f**king ciggs. Will I leave because the place smells bad? 

 

Some place like a coffee place isn't as bad, with constant air flow. But it still smells. Will I leave? C'mon. I'm sorry to hear about the whole pub thing, but I'd rather smell bad breath than smell ciggs. 

But now I'm just getting to the subjective and nothing good and worthwhile comes out of that...

Well, in the UK, USA and 99.999% of Europe those places don't exist - even Israel has banned smoking in public enclosed places "The restrictions include all commercial entities such as lavatories, office buildings, gyms, cafés, restaurants, discos, pubs and bars, and it is illegal for the owners of such places to put ashtrays anywhere inside enclosed spaces"

 

 

So that's not "getting subjective", that's a rabid dog chasing parked cars.

 

Well the only thing I can say is that Israelis don't seem to follow these laws... right now it is the implementation of these laws that is going on- we're not really good at that. 

I would say you're metaphor's rather extreme, but it's specific to where I am, not as much to where you are. The point is that people smoke in closed public spaces, constantly, and in public places in general.

I have no problem with smoking bans, and I certainly don't want them revoked. The anti-smoking lobby has won, they really need to learn how to be gracious in victory.

well yeah with cases such as a huge open public spaces it does seem a bit silly. But where do you draw the line? I think there should just be a smoking area (which isn't small, there are many smokers, I get it). 

 

^when i used to live there they smoked in the hospitals. I couldn't believe it.!

yeah it's gotten better , at least they don't smoke in hospitals anymore. But yeah ciggs are everywhere. 

yeah that's what I mean!

 

Basicly im not sure we disagree, smoking is not great for anything but the pleasure of smoking, we agree.

Smokers should not be allowed to smoke in planes, busses, resturant, hospital, we agree.

 

What i dont understand is why make a fuzz about it, just because i hate the smell of heavy parfumes, im not all over the place about it, i just pull off a bit some times.

 

On a side note i dont know why smokers, should not be allowed to run, smokers bars. Its just like with other theme bars (Gay - S/M - Soda only - ect., if you dont like it, dont go there.

Seen from a helth view, you should not go to Bars at all, risks a all over those places. 

 

Yeah with that I can agree. If there's a bar that's theme is smoking, then yeah sure. I don't think law will allow such a thing though.

We have that - my daughter has been caught twice and she got no sympathy from me (or any help paying the fines) - I carry http://www.keepbritaintidy.org/Campaigns/pastcampaigns/cigarette/portableashtray/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow - a pocket ashtray , they're cheap, they don't make your pocket smell and they work.