SF movies of the 21st century
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Topic: SF movies of the 21st century
Posted By: clarke2001
Subject: SF movies of the 21st century
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 02:28
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As many of you know, I'm a SF buff. Here are SF motion pictures from the 21st century. Pick your favourite. I excluded (more or less) space operas, space westerns, comic book superheroes, so you won't find Avatar, I Robot, War Of The Worlds, Serenity, District 9 or Batman Begins here (even if some of them are okay). And most certainly you won't find anything that begins with the word star.  Also, I haven't included the ones I'm not familiar with. So if you can tell me if Eden Log, Minority Report, The Mist, Idiocracy, Monsters, The Signal and 28 weeks later are any good, you will have my gratitude. If you know any others, have your say. ------------- |
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 02:35
| Donnie Darko. It's extraordinary, just far out. It marries that quirkiness with teenage experiences. Plus, it's creepy. The plot is very intriguing. One-of-a-kind movie. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 02:43
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Love Donnie Darko too, hard to pass up, but I went for Eternal sunshine of the Spotless Mind because I enjoyed the premise so much. In regards to Minority Report I found it wasn't a great adaption, but not awful. In part, Tom Cruise deterred me. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 09:03
| My favourites in this list are not very sci-fi so I don't know what to vote, hmm. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 09:54
What Space Opera? I, Robot - Asimov War Of the Worlds - HG Wells OK..I admit the robot film has very little to do with any book.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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clarke2001 wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 09:55
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My vote is none of the above.
Some of those are horror and not SF. But you probably know that. I like AI and Solaris though. Most of them I haven't seen.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 11:45
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I can't consider some of these sci-fi. Cloverfield is a monster movie. It only loosely has sci-fi themes. Even more so for Eternal Sunshine. It just uses a futuristic sort of procedure to develop the story and deliver the surrealistic imagery. You could replace them with something like District 9. Anyway, I'll go with Children of Men for the list since I'm going to exclude Eternal Sunshine from contention. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 12:07
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I would have gone for Danny Boyle's Sunshine instead of Eternal Sunshine... ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 12:14
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 13:35
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I have never seen any of these ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 15:06
I completely forgot about Sunshine. I liked it at the beginning, but it turned into a horror cliché. ------------- |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 15:22
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I'm an old sci-fi buff, but I haven't seen quite a few of these. I didn't like that Solaris nearly as much as the Tarkovsky adaptation. The Fountain I was disappointed with. Children of Men was pretty good, but didn't leave much of an impression on me. AI was good, but I didn't find it great. Donnie Darko I liked, and despite renting the DVD which my wife watched and thought I'd love, I didn't get around to watching Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Min. My favourite sci-fi films of that decade that I can think of were 20th Century Boys ones -- not really good, but I found them entertaining. I want to see Melancholia, being a von Trier fan. |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 15:32
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Donnie Darko. It would have been nice if Inception was on the list too (although I'd still would have voted Darko)
BTW, has anybody watched S. Darko? Is it as bad as all people claim it to be?
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 15:37
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Children of Men is a leader in this poll now but I rather dislike this film. It's well done and it has outstanding soundtrack (and other references to prog — it should be the 'proggest' sci-fi film ever!), but I just don't like it. Donnie Darko is a good film but it's too Lynchian, so I'd prefer to watch original feature film directed by Lynch (but this is my leader from this list by now). Moon reminds me of Kubrick, yes. It's not a bad film, but I can't choose it too (and Source Code by the same director Duncan Jones seems to me a much more consistent film). Melancholia isn't the best movie by von Trier too. The second past is really well-done, but the first part is just boring (though film wouldn't make a sense without it — but this is another question). And I haven't watched anything else from this list, thiough I consider myself as a movie fan.  ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 15:38
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Out of the ones I've seen Melancholia is the only one I really liked. Also, what about A Scanner Darkly and The Road? |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 16:09
| A Scanner Darkly was good. Have you read the novel, The Road? That novel had a major impact on me, and rarely does a film live up to the book it was based on for me. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 16:20
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Voted Melancholia as I am a huge Lars fan, also adore Lars Ulrich, but I would have voted for Terry Gilliam's completely overlooked Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus from 2009. A brilliant flick with Tom Waits playing the devil. I guess one could call it a modern rendition of Faust actually. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 17:11
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I've only seen approx 3 of these movies. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 17:17
I'm going to watch Melancholia tonight as I am also a big Lars von Trier fan (or at least I was, due to eye problems, I had stopped watching films for a long time, and then music subsumed my passion for film), and then maybe the Gilliam tomorrow (wanted to see the Gilliam before, but forgot about it). |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 17:26
I knew I will forgot something relevant... 
David, thank you for that! If you are interested in Faust motive within SF works, I strongly recommend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Concentration" rel="nofollow - Camp Concentration , a novel by Disch. ------------- |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 18:04
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Was going to vote Solaris but lol wrong one. Moon is pretty good |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 20:45
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Donnie Darko or The Fountain.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 20:33
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wth is a space opera? I voted for Children Of Men because it's a great bitof storytelling even though I did not appreciate the spiritual undertones going on.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 20:52
What is your opinion of the spiritual undertones in Children Of Men ? ------------- |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 03:05
Good call! 
Wouldn't say it turned into a horror cliche though  ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 04:52
Same here. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 04:54
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 05:00
I enjoyed it though. So looking forward to Prometheus. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 06:03
True - still very atmospheric though & let's face it, even when you break down a genre classic like 'Alien', you come back to probably the oldest horror cliche of all; effectively the old dark house with a ghoul/vampire/monster -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 06:07
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^very true Jim. Basically a horror film set in space. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 10:33
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 10:39
It has always been a kind of prequel to Alien. In as much as it happens before Ripley arrives on that planet and the alien ship. Even the opening credits are the same as Alien. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:16
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Wot?
No young Ripley in pants & a vest?? Booooooooooo... -------------
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:18
Ridley Scott + virtually any genre is watchable. -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:18
^ it's just what happens when you forget your PE kit.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:28
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...she looked really nice in leather in Alien 4, too... -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:39
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...but not shaven headed in Alien3. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 12:09
 robin hood------------- What? |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 12:13
| ^ You didn't find Robin Hood watchable? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 12:33
But maybe that's just me. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 12:42
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^I haven't seen it yet. Maybe I'll just think of it as a yarn when i watch it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 13:54
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I would included Signs, which is great and had everything about SF genre. But I voted for Eternal Sunshine just because it's really a great movie. And also I Robot was great... ------------- |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 14:57
| Robin hood was the wost f'ing movie I ever watched. My family, bless them, have very shallow tastes, but we all burst out laughing in derision as the movie recreated Saving Private Ryan with wood and arrows in its climax, ridiculous, melodramatic and corny to the Nth degree. A parody of film on a massively pathetic scale. It rang so hollow that it created a black hole and swallowed everything within 3000 light years. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 16:45
| ^ Then I must have shallow tastes. Maybe I really do. Maybe I should watch "Saving Private Ryan" in its entirety after all. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 17:09
Signs is so bad man. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 17:45
Oh, Com'n... it's thrilling, it has mistery, suspense and great dialogue. Please, don't tell me you hate because of it's way to positive message... ------------- |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 17:55
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I hate it because of the glaring plot holes, terrible acting, and lack of anything approaching fear.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 18:00
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Havn't seen enough to have an accurate vote, but I liked "Children of Men" a lot. Also I liked "Cloverfield" it wasn't great or anything but I liked it. So hate me? |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 18:05
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Uh sorry Jampa....positive message...dude even if I was a hardcore Christian I'd want to facepalm. A positive message doesn't make it well done  , don't let the movie cop out like that! It was sooo forced and awkward any positive message can't be heard over my laughing. Which can be said for the movie itself. So awkward and lame :( The whole thing kind of felt like a cop out IMO. Like no idea what to do with it so it just kind of ends. |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 18:38
My point was that precisely. BECAUSE it has a positive message I thought some of you could hate it. But come on, it's a good movie. There's no plot wholes, and you are talking about Phoenix and Gibson, you can dislike them but you can't say they are bad actors. So, I will think it's a matter of pure taste and I did love it. Guess I'm alone here. Children of Men is pretty much "meh" for me... ------------- |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 02:49
OK, a bit of a stinker that one, but still very well made... you don't think the French used wooden & wickerwork landing craft in the 13th century then? -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 03:02
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 03:43
I liked it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 04:23
"Hey let's invade a planet whose surface is 75% water, whose creatures are 60-80% water, whose atmosphere is high in humidity and where it precipitates a lot because there is a kid having a birthday party in one of the wettest countries down there I really want to spook - and let's go without protective clothing or hand weapons and make sure we don't know how to kick down flimsy doors because bombarding these critters from space just isn't sporting and since we have claws for hands making and using such weaponry is a tad more difficult than constructing and flying inter-stellar craft. And since we can navigate the vast distances of space to an isolated water filled planet we had best hope that the planet is populated by a semi-advanced life-form that has evolved sufficiently to allow arable farming so our plan of marking their fields with navigation aids works because if these monkeys are still living in trees then we might as well just go to Mars or something" "Now, now, Barry, don't be so negative, we can get Mel Gibson's autograph..."
"...or flip him the bird."
"I don't think that is advisable."
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 04:28
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^To be fair he was on about plot wholes.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 04:29
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^ to be fair, the whole plot was a hole. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 04:32
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^What about The Happening? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 04:43
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Awww Jampa you're better than that man! Don't pull the "we're heathens" thing. You're above that dude. Also positive message is a nice way to avoid saying Christian I guess? Why hide it? Be proud of it. Anywho, I loved "The Green Mile" How's that for a movie with a positive message, and I'd say far better done? Not to derail: Signs was just poorly acted and written. I wasn't gunna bring this up but: Water kills em. It burns the aliens to the touch. Yet they could survive in our atmosphere??? Also everyone whispering doesn't make it scary or tense, just means I need to turn the volume up to 75 to hear |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 04:49
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I wouldn't say it was poorly acted. But i would have to watch again. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 05:28
Who cares what it's called, if a logical inconsistency spoils my enjoyment of a film that's enough... killing an alien with half a glass of water is not a dodgy premise - having the alien survive in a caustic environment for the half-glass of water to kill it is not a dodgy premise.
I love science fiction and will happily suspend belief to be entertained but there are limits.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 05:33
But it was a good film until the these revelations. The major problem I find with most SF on TV or film is that they are not generally written by SF writers.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:07
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:29
Maybe so if you look it as pure science. But as a film it isn't bad. Maybe it depends on the concentration of water anyway. Lazy science is rife in many films. But it may not be an error. It may be a "so what"? Maybe he didn't care about hard science. There's not much point me continuing this until I see it again to be honest. Can hardly remember the thing. Wasn't Minority Report in this century?
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:33
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Yeah Snow Dog, admittedly that is just my personal opinion, as is yours. I admit it wasn't bad just kind of....eh. I guess it's that stereotypical M Night style (like I said everyone whispering all the time) The acting wasn't the worst part for me, it was the writing. I can't really put it into better words than "cop out" is what the whole thing felt like to me. That's enough signs for now |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:34
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Minority Report! Now that was a movie I enjoyed, and actually more than I expected :O |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:34
The cop out was deliberate though. Most of his later films seem to end kind of........lame? It's a kind of statement. Have you seen The Happening?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:37
Who cares how hard the science is, if the film uses science to kill the alien then the whole plot revolves around science so no one should complain when people pick holes in that science. It would have made more sense (and perhaps even a better film  ) if the aliens could be killed by kindness.------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:45
I'm not complaining. Just making an argument that it is quite a good film despite the flaws. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:45
Oooo...yeah I did see that. I thought it was horrendous, though it was humorous. Humorous in it's ridiculous fashion. I guess that could be man...I've heard some say The Happening was a gag, like purposely bad but IDK... If you're right then guess I'll just chuck it up to "he's not my thing" |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:47
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Yeah the happening was....odd...started fine....but again....no answers. No rhyme or reason. But that isn't the point. But yeah...people seem to love or hate is films. Which is good I think. He still gets bankrolled. For how much longer I wonder? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 06:58
Science fiction = fictitious science? -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 07:04
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 07:45
No, but I don't really regard it as an SF film. More of a mystery. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 07:46
I don't understand that. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 11:46
First: I don't know what is heathens... secondly, NO! I'm not saying christianity because in the film there's no message to it. Maybe Dean's right, maybe it's not SF but fiction science... And that's not a problem at all. But getting back to your post, I hate the Green Mile and really don't care about it's message. I'm a Catholic and I do identify on that "believers" thing in Signs but that's nothing to do with a good movie that makes you wonder for half and hour about what the hell it's happening. I don't know, but Gibson and Phoenix are great actors and that movie probes it and the claustrophobic sense towards the end is also a plus. Even the score made by James Newton Howard is really really great. Isn't it a matter of taste then?
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Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 11:51
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 11:54
Thanks Dean, this post probes why I avoid any career related with science and physics as well as why I stopped been sarcastic in threads. Still, that's not a hole, I still believe everything matches really great (maybe for those of us that really enjoy miracles -breaking physics laws and everything -) so I think it's still good. And I do remember that most 60s and 70s movies doesn't have a good explanation to everything that happened in SF movies and still are taken like Masterpieces of cinema... what about that? ------------- |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 12:03
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^I agree for the most. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 12:37
Yup. Pretty much this. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:03
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:16
I answer sarcasm with sarcasm, sorry about that, but I think that's a valid response.
Miracles in fiction are fine, nothing wrong with that - in The Sixth Sense Night Shyamalan created a perfectly fine fiction based upon the paranormal - all I need to do to accept the film's concept is to believe that some people believe in ghosts, which I do. Signs was not paranormal - it was supposed to be feasible and believable in the natural world, the aliens were not demons or ghosts, they were physical creatures, invading lifeforms from space and their "science" and "physics" is the same as ours. Vampires cannot cross running water and can be killed by "holy" water - ordinary water and still water cannot harm them - and there is nothing wrong with that because "vampire science" is a fiction, but it is a consistant fiction that does not break its own rules - Signs does not do that - it creates a rule without a limiting condition, then violates that rule.
You can disregard that violation of its own rules and that's okay, I cannot, and that's okay too.
I think most SF regardless of era tended to treat science knowledgeable people with a degree of respect - from the very beginnings of SF as a literary genre the science has always been a plausible and therefore believable extrapolation of what we do know to what might be. For example In War Of The Worlds HG Wells created a hopeless situation for mankind where all our technology was useless against a more advanced foe to have them wiped out by the simplest most primitive organism on the Earth, and in its time that was a plausible synopsis that even today http://www.astrosurf.com/joseribeiro/Textos/Space%20Quarantine.htm" rel="nofollow - we regard with caution . Signs does not contain that "honesty" in its disregard for plausibility.
I'm not sure what films of the 60s and 70s you are thinking of, most that come to mind for me (Solaris, 2001, Dr Strangelove, Omega Man, Soylent Green, Westworld, Logan's Run, Star Wars, Close Encounters etc) contained pretty reasonable science.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:18
Now I'm curious, I admit. Could it be worse than http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067756/" rel="nofollow - Silent Running ? ------------- |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:30
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:55
I thought Silent Running had a superb storyline & script  As to the poll question, I am ashamed to admit that the only 21st century sci-fi movie I have seen is Star Trek. I don't get out much these days ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 14:19
So much of this. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 17:54
| The MOVIE represented on my Avatar will become the greatest sci fi movie of the 21st century! |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 18:27
Did the cute droids take off their robo-tops?  For a second I thought the film might have Silent Running by Mike + The Mechanics in the Soundtrack but I see its earlier. I love that song, even though it is overly religious. |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 18:28
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By the way what about Species III? I mean, come on.
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 18:59
Whatever Dean, I can't think in an answer without thinking in the half hour iI need to translate it to you, nor the fact that I do enjoy movies without pretending knowing too much, which is exactly why I sit and enjoy and even like that there are some movies that I can't stand. But, as your description is so accurate, I have to tell you, our bodies are 90% liquid not water, which is not the same. And we can't bring a condition to an alien that we don't understand for not even the "rules" they can have. Sorry, it's the same to vampires or Stallone movies for me... Some much for me in this particular subject. Cheers. ------------- |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 20:16
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^ I have no idea where you got your figure from or what this "liquid" would be if not water, (most bodily fluids are hydrous solutions, even gastric acid is mainly water with 0.5% hydrochloric acid). The human body is 60-80% water by weight depending on age and health, and it is the water content I was referring to as that was the relevant bit for that "argument".
Anyway, other than that I'm not sure what your point is, I've already said it is okay if a fiction creates its own rules, but for me once those rules have been established then they should be adhered to that is all. If you don't think that is necessary then good for you - you will enjoy far more films and books than I will.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 21:18
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^Obese people can dip below 60%, but a living human is always going to be more than 40% as far as I understand. It's not even just humans. It's all life on planet. The story also goes that they're coming here for our natural resources. What natural resources? Take away the life, which is poison to them, and the water, which is also poisonous, and our resources are hardly that unique. Did they come here for fossil fuels? If that's the case then it would be the most absurd point of the movie. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 21:34
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I liked Signs. Nobody said the extraterrestrials who came to Earth were smart. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 21:52
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Unless they were dogs on their original planet thrown into space ships made by an intelligent race and sent here for amusement, I think they would have to be smart.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 22:12
Who's to say they weren't inept soldiers sent by a corrupt politician to a planet for that planet's resources, but they were sent with no support during a series of unpopular wars during an election year? The film focuses on the earthlings, not the aliens. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 22:20
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It just goes back to the rulers being complete morons then.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 11 2012 at 02:28
Nooooo - please don't have a go at one of my favorite films...  -------------
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: May 11 2012 at 16:05
Ha ha ha I love that. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 11 2012 at 16:56
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Extraterrestrials in films will only ever be as smart as a Hollywood scriptwriter. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 06:07
Well that's their plans for global domination buggered, then! -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |