So We Really Can't Criticise Admin?
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Topic: So We Really Can't Criticise Admin?
Posted By: Textbook
Subject: So We Really Can't Criticise Admin?
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 16:42
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I posted a topic in GD about how I felt that the admins/mods here are out of touch and dated in their sensibilities. I thought it was politely worded and eloquent and a way of starting a real conversation on the issue. It got locked and censored. So the deal is that we just can't do it or what?
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 16:52
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Hmmmm.... the fact that the topic is nowhere to be seen suggests that you may have a different definition of politely worded and eloquent than the admin - to the extend that you violated the site guidelines somewhere... You do have a reputation after all. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 16:54
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OK, polite is stretching it. But it wasn't abusive or savage. I reproduce it here in order to faciliate the discussion being had in this thread. Here is my initial post: "So in Smurph's thread about a "pointless rant about children", I jokingly called him a retard and that was censored. I get along with Smurph, I like him, we've private messaged each other and I'm certain he would've taken it in the ribbing way it was intended. But fine, I don't mind it being censored, I can understand how it might look to someone reading it cold and not being aware of how I meant it, it can be a sensitive word. So no big deal. But what bothers me is that afterwards I made a post saying "Got a post censored. Hey Smurph, want to join me in a rant about humorless, fuddy duddy admin?" which was again a joke, pretty obviously I thought, and this was censored too. Come on guys, some soft and only half-serious criticism saying you're fuddy duddy and humorless is over the line? I guess you can censor this post too, but it might make some people think I'm on to something. The best way to defuse it is to let it stand and have people disagree with and belittle me as I'm sure they will because most people here are much more matey-potatey than me. But to make it "AGAINST THE RULES" to call you fuddy duddy is kind of dickish and that would lower you to my level." And two further comments I made before it was deleted: "A) I don't know who did it so I can't PM and B) Things like this should be discussed publicly. Edit: Also, I don't care who did it. I'm not interested in identifying them. We don't need to do that. The message is just one generally of "Being an admin means you get criticised sometimes. Yes criticism can go too far and become abuse, but "fuddy duddy" is not that point. In fact, thinking fuddy duddy is over the line would probably be a key part of actually being fuddy duddy." And another one: Further comment, in pre-emptive response to inevitable "if you don't like it, leave" answer: But I do like this site, way more bad than good, it's an impressive place. But the worst thing about it is that a number of the admins/mods are out of touch. Their sensibilities are dated. That's probably a product of the site being about a form of music prevalent in the 70s but it doesn't need to be that way. Progressive music is a product of NOW, people doing things NEW. It would be a good thing for the site to have more young turks in the admin/mod group to reflect that attitude because young turks are the guys making prog at any point in time.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 16:56
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The admins do a thankless job very well, and I say this as someone who has spent virtually my entire adult lifetime criticising rudderless & useless authority. I am not afraid to have a go when it is warranted. They volunteer for this job, and I think they do it to the benefit of the site. Criticise, by all means, but do it in a way that is professional and courteous. As a rider, I would state I didn't see the relevant post, but the fact it has been removed speaks volumes. There is no need to insult people and be rude. Hiding behind a computer screen makes it cowardly as well, which I loathe. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 16:59
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The post is reproduced above yours Lazland. Please tell me where it went over the line. The fact it has been removed is not evidence that it was abusive or uncalled for. It could simply be an intolerance of criticism or fear that I was on to something.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:08
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I agree with Textbook, poking fun at an authority figure in such a harmless way doesn't need to be censored. I've had a few of my posts censored, reasonably, which I was okay with. I'm not even sure what "fuddy duddy" even means, but it barely seems serious or offensive in anyway. I'd probably giggle if someone called me that, and I'm younger and way less mature than probably all of the admins. That being said, I'm not meaning to be critical of the admins. I think they do a good job and generally have good reasons for doing whatever they do, and I think I speak for most of the members of the site by saying that we are thankful for the job that the admins do on this site. but f**k da police. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:11
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Why exactly are you a member of this site, Textbook? What is it you believe you are contributing to this place? ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:12
I would be more interested in a thread critical of all the young people here who are more crotchety than all the geezers I know combined. Are kids already that cynical, pissed off, and easily offended?  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:14
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Dreadpirate: That's a hugely suspicious tactic. It's like you can't disagree with what I'm saying so you're flying off in another direction, specifically ad hominem. Epig: We've had those threads. By all means start one. Just expect return fire ;)
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:19
I'd contribute to that thread with my cynicism and pissiness. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Epignosis wrote:Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:25
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Textbook, you are not special enough for this. You are not the master of a coveted, secret knowledge which we mere intellectually-deprived peons are not, nor will ever be, privy to. You are not the sole possessor of a mythic power granting you certitude and indefatigable verisimilitude in all things. I see you as this upstart, mock-revolutionary. "Maybe I'm onto something! Hey guys, we're being oppressed! These authority figures hide behind their power! They censor me because they know I'm right!" Prog-Archives isn't Tienanmen Square, nor is it the hill atop Golgotha. You can play-pretend at being a martyr with your tiny plastic cross, but nobody is impressed. I don't take offense at your condemnation of PA's...ahem...'upper class'. I've been very close to being banned numerous times. I merely find it humorous that you seem to think yourself a mighty special case. What ideas have you truly conceived that nobody else could've possibly hit upon? Not that I disagree. You're probably being targeted due to your reputation. I see insults being flung around this place all the time. I don't think the admins are afraid of being criticized. I think they simply don't like you because you seem like an obnoxious punk child. I could care less if you're 43 with two children and a harem of wives, you seem like an obnoxious punk child. Now for the truly important question: How much wood could a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck Raspberries!?
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:27
Let me re-phrase. What is a post like your OP contributing to this forum? (and by extension, several of your other posts, past and future)
------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 18:00
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Alitare: As with Robert's previous post, this is a strange tack to take. It's like you're actually saying I'm correct but it's OK to flout authority when you feel like it which I'm pretty sure you don't really mean. Robert: I think the place would be better if the mods weren't so out of touch. By drawing attention to it, change may (or may not of course) eventually come about.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 18:21
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EDIT: My head hurts Maybe nobody should be listening to me for advice.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 04:01
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I'm too scared to criticize them. I'm already hanging by a thread. But personally, I see nothing wrong with any of the posts that you had censored. If one member of the Admin team decide to do something though, they all pull together and hold the line. They don't criticise each other. Once a decision by one has been made however wrong or misjudged it was, they will all publicly support it.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 09:39
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Ok so they have basically allowed the discussion to be had after all. This thread hasn't been closed, it's in the right area of the forum, and contains the original post in all its glory, plus it actually deals with your original subject, admin criticism. And remember I'm one of the notorious "cop haters" around here... ------------- 
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 09:45
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I hate the cops. Btw I actually am retarded but we prefer the term mentally handicapable. Because we're better than everyone.
The mentally handicapable revolution is at hand soon, and you won't see it coming. For we will be coming, ON YOU.
Btw I don't think the mods are out of touch. They are doing their best job to keep this place enjoyable for everyone. I know it might stifle some things but I don't think they are trying to be jerks to any specific person. I think its safe to say that political leaders, policemen, and the upper crusted elite people of the world are out of touch.
Honestly this is just a forum on the web. If anyone gets super bothered by it they need to take a step back and just do something else. We are all just trying to enjoy ourselves. If a post if deleted, find another way to word it or just move on to the next topic. Nothing we say on progarchives is THAT important. The only important things on here is helping each other find amazing music. Everything else is just silly good times. :-)
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 10:00
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First of all I hate when people use "the admins" as some general term that makes it ok to treat the individuals like crap. It's Dean, Angelo, h.ro, and maybe some others. These are folks we interact with in forum and they have choices to make. Their job is to maintain the integrity of the site, not to make you feel like you can exercise your freedom. They make judgment calls.
Here's some reality. If you poke someone with a stick, they're less likely to do you any favors. Some will bite back. It has nothing to do with justice. Just friggin common sense. You poke alot of folks with sticks around here. Don't be surprised if you don't get touchy feely in return.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:22
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^ Absolutely. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:04
Actually, that is a pretty good summary of what I was thinking about writing when I read the above posts. As admin/moderator one has to make judgement calls, and judgement will include looking at the content of the post, the choice of words, the reputation of the author and the context/time in which the post is written. Looking at recent history, in terms of threads started and discussions had, as well as the whole lot of flack received by the admins in a certain thread (which was closed by me on the public forum, but which lasted for quite a while in the collaborators zone), it's obvious that one of the admins decided to not let Textbook's thread run it's course. As to why this one is not closed I can only guess, but I reckon the relatively civil manner in which this issue is being discussed here. The reason I can only guess is related to the only flaw in your post: since last week, I am no longer on the admin team and I don't have access to the admin zone anymore. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:08
^Wow. Just never noticed that.
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 15:01
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Noticed what? ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 16:51
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I got a private message from a higher up saying "thanks for that Textbook, why don't we just let people destroy the site". This is what I'm talking about. It's a massive over-reaction. Does anyone that the censored posts were, or are capable of, destroying the site?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 17:09
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^I really think I'd better avoid making a comment. Not sure you should reveal a PM but as you didn;t say who its from itsd probably ok ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 17:10
That you were no longer Admin of course. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 18:15
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Admins are people too, is what the general consensus is. If I knew Dean in person I'd probably develop a contemporary respect for the man. As it stands, I only know him as well as I know most folks on this site. 'Tis a shame, 'cause I imagine I'd have a really good time hanging out with more than a couple people here. And yeah - comin' straight from da underground.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:14
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SD: I believe in transparent government and so I refuse to handle things like this in PM. What are we hiding from people? Here I am, here's the things I say, like them or don't. That's how things should be handled. If someone says something relevant in a PM, it should be revealed so the dialogue can continue in public. However, as you noted it was sent to me as a PM and so I am not naming the person who said it to respect their wish to be anonymous. But I'm not going to pretend it wasn't said.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:44
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Once you've spent some time as one of the real human individuals making decisions for groups of people, you'll get a little bit of what's going on. It's quite difficult to be even handed and generous when those you're making decisions for are petty and adolescent. Much easier if they are simply friendly adults. Common courtesy is common for a reason. Keeping dirty laundry private is more to protect folks like you than those in charge. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:47
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I think it may be more that you should not criticize anyone; members, Collabs, Admin, whomever-- seriously, what has anyone done here - other than artists whose work is on the site or posted in the Forum - that is worth criticism ? People are here to either enjoy or contribute to the site, and neither of those activities warrant a critique. Everyone just does the best they can, and if there's an issue between certain parties than it may need to be resolved. But that is different from issuing a report card, which is more about judgment and narcissism than anything else. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:26
 ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 23:41
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If you're so upset, where were you when I was trying to organize my coup!?
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 06:34
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To the person sending me PMs: I'd rather not PM, but I have sent you in compromise. I believe a discussion about the quality of moderation should be had in public. I also believe you hugely misunderstand me. You paint me as some sort of forum destroying villain who has waged a campaign of hate on the mods and wants no moderation at all and that is simply not true. I simply thought that in this instance you got it wrong and I told you so. I didn't ask for anyone to quit, I don't think anyone needs to quit, I was just going "Hey, I think that's a bit trigger happy". You're free to reflect on whether that might be true or dismiss it. I'm not your boss, but I use the site, I give it traffic, I'm feeding back on how it's run. Maybe I don't deliver that feedback in the most ideal way possible but why should I be expected to, no one's an ideal person. As for your assault on my character, it's true that I come across as acerbic because I don't self-censor and water down my opinions to make sure they make everybody feel cosy. I call it honesty, you can call it being obnoxious or arrogant. I'm comfortable with that, it's not a "one must fall" situation. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:28
Head Admin Henry. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:39
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I can't
find a single thing wrong about how the admins here handle any situations. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:42
My concern with what you're doing is that I don't believe you're close to achieving what you want to with your efforts, which makes your behavior appear delusional. I would also argue that rather than being a 'strange tack' - a refusal to engage with your OP is a comment all on its own. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:46
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Npjnpj: I post on lots of other forums- this would easily be the most conservative of them in terms of moderation. In fact, that is the basis of the complaint in the first place. It is just simply not true, at all, that on any other forum I would have my knee caps removed for saying "Hey I don't think that should've been modded". I think your impression of me is coloured by that Beastie Boys thread and I think you are the slimey one who simply posted to show how on message you are. Anyway, I'm fine with letting this go now. I had a complaint, it was heard. If people keep saying things here I'll keep responding, but otherwise, show's over.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:48
| Robert: Alright, I'm a crazy person. The moderation is infallible and no one should ever say otherwise because it's just not possible that a well-meaning mod might get a bit heavy-handed. The day is saved. Woohoo. Pats on the back all round. |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:50
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Well that sucks that the show's over... I love drama. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:52
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I do understand what you mean Textbook I really do. I actually agree with what you are saying. I don't see anything you posted as being too bad. But that's me. I have had many posts hidden too. i didn't agree with them too. Some that were hidden i just plainly didn't see the reason at all. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:52
| Also, in fairness of disclosing PMs, I also got one from a prominent user who says he agrees with me that the moderation is too conservative but that the place seems to be incapable of having a dialogue about it so he's kept his mouth shut. I'm sure you'll all think I am making that PM up but I am *not*. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:53
It wasn't me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:55
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Yeah that looked like I was implying it was you, sorry, that was just coincidence of when I posted. It really wasn't SD, but who it was doesn't matter. What I was saying is some people feel this way, management can react or not. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:56
Well done, sarcasm, compelling stuff. I don't give a rat's arse if you don't like the moderation, suck it up. Your childish posts will not change anything, give up. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:01
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I have to say though that some of the Admin team I respect hugely and like very, very much. Some of them in the past I have disliked. Just like any member here. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:15
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WOOT drama give me more guys I'm starting to enjoy this!
hmm... someone talk about someone else's mom! That would make things interesting. Even better if that guy's mom is really ill or something. I wanna see bullets flying!
Even better someone could talk crap about me just trying to egg everything on and not contributing to the conversation. Then, even though I dont get mad about anything, I could blow up in your faces and storm off into the bathroom to cry.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:17
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^Well if that is the response then that was my last post here. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:21
Haha- I'm just joking around. It's just funny to see words like arse and seeing people use sarcasm. The anger is escalating and I feel like it is for no reason at all.
It is because I understand what you guys are saying, but its kinda pointless to really continue on about it. It's not like the people in charge have a personal vendetta against anyone. I haven't really had anything of mine deleted, and if I have had anything deleted I haven't noticed. Because if a post of mine was deleted, I can't get angry about it.
I'm posting on a forum and the people in charge have the right to do whatever they want because I'm not in charge and they are. IT'S ONLY THE INTERNET. Nothing we say on this website is going to change the world.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 09:33
I'm with Westley on this one.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 10:15
Everybody knows I had several encounters (some not very friendly) with some administrators, I must have more warnings than most of the members, but there are some issues to understand:
Nobody likes to be warned or blocked, but when we feel offended,we are he first ones to press the report button and demand a punishment for the member we believe offended us. I been in forums without moderators and all are chaotic, people insult as the want, members take sides dividing the forum and nobody does a thing to remedy the situation. The moderator team is doing a great job, they will have errors as any of us, but lets be honest, in 99.99999% of the cases, we cause the problem and then want moderators to take sides with us. So let them work and cause less problems. Iván
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 10:37
Henry Site Emperor 2013 -------------
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 11:05
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BTW Matt, I closed your original thread. If you are going to whine, please whine in the appropriate part of the site.
Now carry on... |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 12:24
Yeah....Textbook I have to ask, why did you think I was "part of the establishment" of PA? Ironic since I also have criticized them many times (usually about being too sensitive yet dishing it out themselves) and have gotten in trouble before. If it was the attitude I always took with you it had nothing to do with that, frankly I found your 100 posts a week about pseudo intellectual bull crap that wasn't very deep... annoying and you seemed amazingly arrogant to me. Gotta give it to Dusty, when you do what you do you will annoy people and bring attention to yourself. I assumed it was your goal but can't really complain about being singled out. What do you expect? I'm no admin and I always singled you out. Though I do agree I didn't think the particular post that got censored was that bad, and it was an over the top move...you KNOW you're doing this all on purpose  |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 13:31
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The admins here can be a bit sensitive and over-reaching imho. But oh well, it's their site, especially since m@x has been mia for so long. If it bugs you too much, go elsewhere.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:11
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It's not my fault that there isn't a "Help Us Ruin The Site" folder. Seriously though, things seem to have been sorted out in PM and an understanding has been reached
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 18:17
Hail Textbook! I can't see any reason why anyone would have a problem with anything you've written in this thread. All members jumping on him here saying he's the one with problems, trying to shut him up 'n' stuff as well as the person sending those "hurt" pm's: What's wrong with you guys? I don't care if you work your ass off for free here. Its no excuse for behaving stupid. Isn't he allowed to have opinions? Everything here is presented in a polite manner and makes sense.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 18:35
| I'm here to sing some songs for my momma. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 19:15
| Saper: Uh thanks but we were kind of trying to "stop" the conflict. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 20:16
| inb4 CinemaZebra |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 20:30
| You can learn Omnislash before the final boss if you win it at the Golden Saucer. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 20:42
| Altaire: Get the wierd chocobo(check chocobo rumor section) Now ride the chocobo out of midgar and ride it to rocket town. (Note that you cannot go on mountains because the Weird Chocobo is afraid of heights.) Run around the rocket ten times and you can enter it. Now you will be prompted: "Where to?" You can answer one: "Disneyland" "West Side" "Party" Choosing Disneyland will take you to Gold Saucer, where all the costumes will be Disney-oriented. West Side takes you to a hidden area in midgar where Barret _really_ grew up. Party will take you to Costa Del Sol, where Cid is having a kegger in the house with everyone else (including the Turks.) BUT YOU WANT TO CHOOSE THE HIDDEN FOURTH OPTION. This will bring up another question: "Are you sure?" Answer "Yes" and you will fly to the moon. When you land you have ten seconds to run into the cheese weapon, who is skipping by just as you land. If you touch him you can fight him. If not, game over. Stats of the Cheese Weapon: ----- HP: 2,000,000,000 MP: 20,000 Attacks: Sharp Cheddar (a physical attack, causes around +8000 damage) Cheese Sneeze (Causes +5000 damage to all plus poison and confu) Cheese Freeze (Ice based, causes +7000 damage to one) Cheese Breeze (Wind based, causes +5000 damage to all) Cheese Degrees (Fire, causes +8000 damage to one) Vitamin Cheese (Heals the Cheese Weapon for 9999 HP) Death by Cheese (Causes 9999 damage to all, used when HP is down to 1,000,000. Can only be blocked by casting shield or barrier beforehand) EXP: 1,000,000 AP: 1,000,000 (like you'd need all that, anyway) Gil: 1,000,000 Win: Cheese Ring Steal: Cheese armlet (If you can equip it during battle, which you really can't, it will absorb all damage taken from the cheese weapon as HP) Morph: Cheese Source (raises stats of all characters to 255) Notes: ----- The Cheese Weapon will summon four Cheeseasaurus Rexes (yes, the ones from the Kraft Cheese and Macaroni commercial.) They can attack you for about 3000 HP each, and can steal items from you (they usually wind up stealing everything you have, but you can steal them back. you win them back at the end of the battle, anyway.) The easiest way to beat the Cheese Weapon (I tested this and it ALWAYS works) is to summon Odin, which will turn him into cheese slices, then summon Titan to turn him into a cheese sandwich. Then summon Typoon to turn the sandwich over. Then summon the Knights of Round to put toppings on the sandwich. They will put on: Ham, Turkey, Salami, Bologna, Mayonnaise, Mustard, Pickles, Olives, Lettuce, Tomato, Peppers, and Onions. Then the big guy at then end (i think it's king arthur) will cut the sandwich in half. |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 22:31
| You know, Textbook, it is dangerous to go alone. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 23:55
| I'll be fine. I am the master of unlocking. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 02:38
Good for you. But I felt like responding to the stuff I read here anyway. Imo this is exactly what being an admin and censorship shouldn't be about. Obviously some can't handle all this "power". It's not like this is a unique incident. And the members with that if you don't like it, just leave-attitude are even worse.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 04:53
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No one ever actually said "If you don't like it, leave". I was surprised too as I thoroughly expected it, but no one ever said that, not even in PM. It's true that that is a terrible attitude, but it was never said here, at least not that I noticed. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 04:53
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^Yes it was. In this very thread. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 07:02
| Well since when did I read things properly, right Dean? |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 09:16
Inb4 Pnoom! ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 01:51
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