Rating abuse in several artists albums
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Topic: Rating abuse in several artists albums
Posted By: gen77c
Subject: Rating abuse in several artists albums
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 15:21
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Greetings, I'm a very frequent user but I rarely post in the forum and today I must because I noticed several irregularities. In the top 100 and the top albums by year lists, wich I use a lot, since last week several albums by Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman among others, as well as Various Artists (Tribytes) have been appearing. Albums wich didn't have enough ratings but now are all over the place. Case in point: http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=17840 27 five stars ratings and not a single review. Clicking the last few users wich rated the album I found a patter wich you should check... http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=39685 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=39684 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=39678 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=39673 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=39663 Those are just the last 5 to rate that album. Please look into it, it looks like a single user creating multiple accounts to inflate the rating on those albums, mostly by Yes and its members. Thank you for reading... gen |
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 15:52
Yes I reported this yesterday. And this individual seems to be making even more accounts. 
------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: gen77c
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 15:54
| Oh sorry. I did check if anybody else noticed this but I seem to have missed your report. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 16:16
No worries. I posted it in the reviews reporting thread. Glad to see someone else was on to this baffling dedication toward ratings manipulation. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
gen77c wrote:Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 22:47
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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews
Do you rate a bands discography with 1 star ratings..........you mean you subject yourself to a a band you evidently do not like so you might give every album a one star rating??? not too likely.........grow up and at least have more respect for the site!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 23:02
| That's ridiculous, not just his one stars, but his consistent use of giving the same ratings to a band's discography. And I can''t believe that he's heard a great many of those albums -- aside from mistrusting his looking into various discographies when he doesn't like them, his tastes are not consistent enough -- I'm not just saying that cause I see albums that I love that he's given every star rating to, well, partially I am, but that I find it hard to believe that he could think various albums bad when I see what he likes. He's just trying to prop up his favourites probably, without hearing much of the others. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 23:06
| Obvious he is not even true to his own taste in music and does the site a disservice by rating manipulations. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 31 2012 at 01:55
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Nuke him! ------------- 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 31 2012 at 04:04
We would gladly, but our launch button is stuck  ------------- 
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: March 31 2012 at 08:28
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clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick fivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestarsfivestars clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick onestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestaronestar  Well done, Mr. Ratings Manipulator. You achieved something.  |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 00:21
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Hmmm, this is getting frustrating. He has over rated a lot of Yes tribute albums WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?????????? -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 04:38
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Some of them are careful. For example 1 star for all Yes albums after Drama. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Blackbeard
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 11:57
| I have another idea for admins. I think he is a little bit kiddy, and likes to destroy and see the results. Maybe we can slow down his possiblities. A newly registererd user should only rate one album a day for a certain time. Or every user must be doing at least one review before he can rate (other) albums. Hopefully he gets bored by slow progression of his work of destruction. |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 12:19
It's not up to admins, it's a technical issue and up to a webmaster. I don't think this idea of "at least one review" will be implemented ever - ratings without reviews are primarily here because of non-English-speaking people. As for the "one rating a day" at the beginning, for what is worth, I like the idea, but I don't think the site owner do.  |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 12:40
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I hope this is the place to report this. Yesterday while writing my review i checked other ratings too for that album.
The album rating was very high, and out of 9 reviewers, 6 gave the album 4 or 5 stars but one reviewer gave it 1 star which seemed pretty weird. I entered the person's review list and found out he has 2480 ratings without a single review! or forum posts, and it seems about 70% is a one star rating, and for entire discographys too. For example the entire Residents discography that includes about 60 albums got one star rating.
This looks very weird and is suspicious, worth checking out IMO.
If you would like i can post a link to his rating page.
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 08:05
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Scratch the 'if you would like' next time, simply post the link and save us all some time (or send a PM to an admin with the link if you don't feel like putting it on the public forums). Awaiting the link now... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 09:39
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No problem at all... http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464 |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 10:48
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At least he likes UZ But yeah, that looks pretty manipulative to me. People don't understand that finding something not to your tastes doesn't mean it's sh*t. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 11:44
| Yeah what's the deal with bashing those albums, i'm sure he didn't listen to most of it. I mean if you dislike the Residents so much why do you keep listening to their whole discography, this is so obvious. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 12:47
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That list does look fishy, but it could be that he has a sibling, roommate, or friend with many of those albums, so that's why he heard lots of them. I heard all of Rush's albums due to a friend who I shared a house with for six months -- and boy did I get really, really sick of them. It can be pretty difficult to avoid music in such cases. And he offered me plenty of cash to trash my Bauhaus CD; instead, I yan and yang lumber punched him (go taste a tart and then eat my lunch). I agree with a lot of his not Residents ratings, but damn, he should be shot (joking of course with the term) for these:  ../artist.asp?id=5536" rel="nofollow - JEAN-CLAUDE VANNIER ../album.asp?id=28895" rel="nofollow - L'enfant assassin des mouches (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=1608" rel="nofollow - VANGELIS ../album.asp?id=7565" rel="nofollow - The Dragon (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=1608" rel="nofollow - VANGELIS ../album.asp?id=7571" rel="nofollow - Hypothesis (rating only) (amongst others) ../artist.asp?id=2252" rel="nofollow - TORTOISE ../album.asp?id=10470" rel="nofollow - Millions Now Living Will Never Die (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=594" rel="nofollow - PIERROT LUNAIRE ../album.asp?id=2906" rel="nofollow - Pierrot Lunaire (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=675" rel="nofollow - NEU! ../album.asp?id=3575" rel="nofollow - Neu! 2 (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=646" rel="nofollow - MAGMA ../album.asp?id=3317" rel="nofollow - Mëkanďk Kömmandöh (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=982" rel="nofollow - KULTIVATOR ../album.asp?id=5157" rel="nofollow - Barndomens Stigar (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=5675" rel="nofollow - BJORN J:SON LINDH ../album.asp?id=29585" rel="nofollow - Cous Cous (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=5675" rel="nofollow - BJORN J:SON LINDH ../album.asp?id=29584" rel="nofollow - Frĺn Storstad Till Grodspad (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=5675" rel="nofollow - BJORN J:SON LINDH ../album.asp?id=29583" rel="nofollow - Ramadan (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=5675" rel="nofollow - BJORN J:SON LINDH ../album.asp?id=29586" rel="nofollow - Sissel (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=5535" rel="nofollow - IL BERLIONE ../album.asp?id=28892" rel="nofollow - Il Berlione (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=2934" rel="nofollow - EMMANUEL BOOZ ../album.asp?id=15015" rel="nofollow - Le Jour oů les Vaches... (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=5454" rel="nofollow - DAVID AXELROD ../album.asp?id=28420" rel="nofollow - Earth Rot (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=3584" rel="nofollow - JEAN-PIERRE ALARCEN ../album.asp?id=18155" rel="nofollow - Jean-Pierre Alarcen (rating only) ../artist.asp?id=3584" rel="nofollow - JEAN-PIERRE ALARCEN ../album.asp?id=18157" rel="nofollow - Tableau No. 2 (rating only)I don't buy that he's listened to a lot of the ones he has rated, maybe briefly sampled them, and others he probably has never properly listened to. And with Le Orme I noted that he rated lots with ones, but the ones he rated higher I agree with, and I would rate the same (best is Contrappunti for me as well as him). His ratings of a particular bands' albums commonly do vary,. And it did seem to me like he may going after a lot of little rated ones to bring sown the average. Is he trying to manipulate lists? I don't know. |
Posted By: gen77c
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 14:15
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I opened this thread because of that brazilian guy but now I know he was already been reported on the report thread so admins if you like you can close this thread and redirect all complaints over there, it should be easier to handle... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28343&PN=180 |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 11 2012 at 21:57
Admins, are you doing anything regarding this person and his ratings? just wanted to know.
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Posted By: till
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 06:34
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Originally posted by sagichim No problem at all... http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464 Hello, I have counted 1665 "1stars.gif"on this page ! (and 0 review) These ratings are not credible at all. When someone doesn't appreciate a progressive band, he doesn't listen to the 30 LPs of the band ! |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 07:50
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I PM'd a few of his alters and not one response. i guess its just a robot. How boring. -------------
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 10:17
Thought you'd already decided that we're doing nothing.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 10:27
@Sagichim As has already been mentioned several times, at the moment Admin are powerless to do anything. Until they get a fix it will remain that way. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 12:43
Damn!! 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 12:49
Is that you praying at the Western wall?
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 14:59
| It's me trying to knock it down. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 15:06
I'm shocked!   ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:21
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Not linked to the recent manipulations going on, but there's a guy here who's rated 58 tech/extreme albums in total, and is averaging a rating of 1.00 Just a bit silly. The problem is where albums only have a couple of ratings, it does distort the picture for others looking for feedback on potential purchases.
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=15577" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=15577
Of course, this poor person may be determinely trawling through every extreme prog metal album they can get their hands on in a desperate attempt to find one they like? Then again...
May be worth a pm from admin?
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: May 10 2012 at 09:22
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Then again, I think you are right. And I would like this not to be happening too, but again we have to face the eternal struggle between rules/guidelines and right to more or less free speech. It's not right, yeah, but how do we prove it ? ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 11 2012 at 17:01
| Thanks for the report, consider him gone. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 26 2012 at 08:01
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I'm afraid that Jose Natal has caused damages that will be hard to fix. Just an example: after his ratings have been removed, this album 
Shows But there are only those:
That means 5 ratings for an avg of 4.00 ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 26 2012 at 08:07
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If anyone rates that album (or changes their rating), it will correct itself.
------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 26 2012 at 11:52
^ I've just submitted a rating only review for this album and then deleted it. The score and number of ratings does correct itself exactly as Rob states. Given the huge number of albums that were rated by our South American miscreant, short of Max running the rating calculation across the entire album database, it's maybe gonna take a real long while before everything is back to normal. .Unfortunately the bulk delete of all the offending entries does not update the ratings -------------
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Posted By: stacyj
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:43
...hmmm ...do tell
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 16:41
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How about this guy? http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32286" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32286 He also rated the new Flower Kings album, no review, and it's still a couple weeks before it comes out. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 16:44
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Annihilate him! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 21:58
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Has he been nuked?
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 23:26
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At least he doesn't seem to have multiple accounts. I suggest PM him and nuke the ratings. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 03:22
^ consider it done.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 08:43
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Got another winner here who even lives up to his name. I don't suppose he has really violated any rules to an extreme.I just like to point it out because imagine if we have a lot of people who rate like this..................... http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23750
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 09:01
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^ big Tori Amos fan I see
------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 09:05
| Yeah, when I don't like an artist's music I like to buy all their albums |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 09:07
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Is it odd to be a big Kate Bush fan, but to hate Tori Amos? I kind of think of them as being somewhat comparable. ------------- 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 15:50
Clearly a basket case. I've deleted all the one star reviews for Echolyn and Tori Amos (though anyone calling an album Abnormally Attracted to Sin deserves everything they get  )-------------
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 17:37
| Thanks ^ |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 11:58
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Another person rating whole discographies with one star ratings http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:16
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Wow, another real winner. Well spotted ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:58
NOT EXACTLY: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8813" rel="nofollow - Battiato (rating only)  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13602" rel="nofollow - Caffé De La Paix (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15618" rel="nofollow - Campi Magnetici (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13350" rel="nofollow - Come Un Cammello In Una Grondaia (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13607" rel="nofollow - Dieci Stratagemmi (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13606" rel="nofollow - Ferro Battuto (rating only)  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12885" rel="nofollow - Fisiognomica (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13609" rel="nofollow - Fleurs (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20743" rel="nofollow - Fleurs 2 (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13610" rel="nofollow - Fleurs 3 (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11387" rel="nofollow - Foetus (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15615" rel="nofollow - Genesi (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14855" rel="nofollow - Il Vuoto (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26846" rel="nofollow - Inneres auge (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8814" rel="nofollow - Juke Box (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13343" rel="nofollow - L'arca di Noč (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9601" rel="nofollow - L'Egitto Prima Delle Sabbie (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10633" rel="nofollow - L'era Del Cinghiale Bianco (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13604" rel="nofollow - L'imboscata (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13603" rel="nofollow - L'ombrello E La Macchina Da Cucire (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15624" rel="nofollow - La emboscada (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10635" rel="nofollow - La Voce Del Padrone (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8758" rel="nofollow - M.elle Le Gladiator (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15617" rel="nofollow - Messa Arcaica (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13340" rel="nofollow - Mondi lontanissimi (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11482" rel="nofollow - Musiche Per Il Film Su Benvenuto Cellini (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15621" rel="nofollow - Nomadas (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12296" rel="nofollow - Orizzonti Perduti (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1841" rel="nofollow - FRANCO BATTIATO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10634" rel="nofollow - Patriots (rating only) ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:59
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1802" rel="nofollow - ...Di Terra (rating only)  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32884" rel="nofollow - B.M.S. (Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, 1991 version) (rating only)  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1803" rel="nofollow - Banco (1975) (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1800" rel="nofollow - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1805" rel="nofollow - Canto di primavera (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7752" rel="nofollow - Darwin (1991 version) (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1801" rel="nofollow - Darwin! (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1804" rel="nofollow - Garofano Rosso (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=170" rel="nofollow - Io Sono Nato Libero (rating only) ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:00
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Of course I don't think he has purchased all the 1-stars, but he's not rating whole discogs with the same stars. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:16
| Over 1000 1 star albums |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 19:05
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^ Glore (Lorenzo Gentilini) has rated at least 9 artists exclusively as one star (Steve Howe, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Angelo Branduardi - the latter may have stolen the reviewer's lunch money?) I can't be ar*ed deleting them all but I have sent a PM advising disingenuous reviews are about as welcome as a burrito in a diaper etc - probably not an english speaker anyway
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 19:16
I'd suspend the clown and delete twenty to thirty ratings a day until the job was done. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 13:37
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this might be rating manipulation if there ever was one http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40554" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40554 -------------  
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 14:04
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Probably he has just not understood the guidelines. 5 stars to all he likes and at least he doesn't rate things he doesn't like ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 01:42
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This guy doesn't look credible. http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40989 |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 01:49
....and he's a collab?  Fairly funny though. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 01:52
| No he's not man... |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 06:25
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He joined on May 31st, I think a PM would be enough, also because in his last 10 ratings he seems to have started thinking a bit more... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 11:19
| He should have been thinking since May 31st. A PM would be good because I think he may do this more and more. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 06:24
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A newbie who lurves most of the albums he has presumably purchased and rated (how unusual) with but a one and two star rating to his name: so f*cking what... -------------
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 04:38
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Don't know if this one has been spotted yet.
Zero reviews, zero posts in the forums, 5 stars to the complete discographies of VDGG, KC, PT and ELP (even to In The Hot Seat
).A few 2 and 3 star ratings and the fact that recently he does not rate whole discographies at once makes me doubt but he is certainly not careful with the ratings.
Location Russia...
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40989" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40989
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 04:59
^ IP address used is legit (St Petersburg, Russia) but yes, entire discographies that attract unwavering adoration is probably well dodgy (I'm the biggest ELP fanboy in the world but wouldn't rate either In the Hot Seat or Love Beach 5 sparklies innit? ) I'd be more concerned if entire discogs were awarded one stars. Can't justify deleting anything however.
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Posted By: Jihnik1958
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:24
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Please take action to this person http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=30434 He does not think and deliberately give a bad score ------------- genesisoman I live in Ukraine. War with Russia! Music occupies since 1970. Progressive knew and loved in 1978 Favorite bands: Genesis, marillion, eloy, kansas, yes, jethro tull, IQ, Glory to Ukraine! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:57
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^Not sure I agree ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: gen77c
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 20:23
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Please use the Review Reporting Thread http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28343 |
Posted By: Jihnik1958
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 02:08
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gen77c Thank you for the advice
------------- genesisoman I live in Ukraine. War with Russia! Music occupies since 1970. Progressive knew and loved in 1978 Favorite bands: Genesis, marillion, eloy, kansas, yes, jethro tull, IQ, Glory to Ukraine! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 05:59
I disagree with most of his ratings but I don't see any abuse. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: August 19 2012 at 07:47
You mean he doesn't think like you and yes, I too deliberately give low scores to albums I don't like -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 20 2012 at 23:26
The usersGREWOLDERHTP and ADELIS http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=42704&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=42704&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=42004&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=42004&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews Have similar ratings to almost the same rare albums Seem like trolls to me Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 01:36
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New Troll http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=36720&listreviews=alpha&showall=true#reviews" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=36720&listreviews=alpha&showall=true#reviews Iván -------------
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 03:03
Well spot! ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:24
I get the feeling that this person doesn't like RPI....  ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:26
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Btw, can you guys please check out my profile and tell me if my ratings are appropriate? I have only got ratings with reviews.
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40840" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40840 ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:46
Guess he won't be joining us in the Den.....  |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:48
If your ratings are sincere why would you need to ask others to confirm their appropriateness? Why do you think we allow you to submit your opinions in the first place? -------------
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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 21:42
Yeah it is just that PA is rather strict about their guidelines. ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 21:26
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Look, afraid this is a rating manipulation or something. http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=35306" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=35306 The 10 members with 4 or 5 stars have joined a while before.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 01:58
Well.
I always ask myself If somebody dislikes two albums of a band, enough to rate them with 1 star...WHY IN THE HELL DOES HE/SHE BUY ALL THEIR ALBUMS? This guy parafulmini hates all PFM, but he wants us to believe he bought 18? Even more, he says he bought 22 Banco del Mutuo Soccorso just to rate all of them with one star Unless he's a bloody masochist, he never heard more than one album, maybe two. Iván PS: The Mystical, I find your ratings fair, mostly because you tell us what you think in your review. -------------
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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 06:30
Lol, I'm not gonna pretend that I have bought every prog album I have ever listened to...Progstreaming? Spotify? ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 07:34
But he loves Area... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 10:42
Mystical, this guys Parafulmini is a liar No streaming site has all the albums by PFM, Banco, Genesis, ELP, Rush, etc availlable. Plus, if you hated 3 albums of a band, you don't listen the other 20 -------------
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 09:14
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This is obvious abuse: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=19023" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=19023 Too bad for that one last review, because that was actually a good and reasonable review.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: March 22 2014 at 02:57
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https://www.facebook.com/perfectbeingsband Take a look at this, sad how a band, seemingly serious about their music, actively asking for people to create an account and rate the album. Another example that ratings without review is abused to the point whereyou cant trust PA's ratings anymore. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 22 2014 at 03:20
I can understand why this irks you so but I'm afraid there is nothing inherently wrong in inviting people to be favourable about your 'product'. After all (and this is the bit that maybe sticks in both our throats) they appear entirely unfazed that their art has been reduced to a commodity that obeys the same laws of supply and demand as that of bananas. (Although bananas are perishable, not digital so it's a crap analogy  ) I'm old enough to remember when musicians were supposed to have precisely zero business acumen. Now it seems it's me whose hopelessly out of step and it's actually tertiary qualified entrepreneurs with DAWS who stand the only chance of longevity? Just waiting for the music software boffins to release a plug in for Pro Tools called 'Edgy Angst Dissolution V 2.0'-------------
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 22 2014 at 05:33
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Any man who is able to respond intelligently whilst making reference to bananas is gold in my book. and he is, of course, totally right as well. Sure music has and always will be a commodity, but when you start slinging it out like this, then it gets to be too much for me. I do not think it breaks any guidelines though. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 22 2014 at 05:51
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Besides even 10 review manipulations for one album will hardly dent overall ratings. The big picture will always come through in the end ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: March 22 2014 at 07:59
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Yes, they got nice ratings from the reviews, so its not like they manipulated themself into a top spot, and they are entitled to promote their music, what sticks in my eyes, is how obvious it is to them, that they should use the weakness in PA's rating system (anyone can rate without much effort) , if they want to stay on top of the list. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 22 2014 at 14:45
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^ But there is a weighting system, surely? ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Luqueasaur
Date Posted: July 09 2017 at 10:29
| Sadly this issue hasn't been resolved yet because rating bots are still out there... |