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Topic: The Symphonic Prog Masterpiece of the 90s
Posted By: zumacraig
Subject: The Symphonic Prog Masterpiece of the 90s
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 07:56
My choice is Flower Kings-Stardust We Are.  The Stardust epic and the recurrence of that musical theme as well as some great mini prog epics.  'tis a bit long, though ;)



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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 07:58
I have to consider this for a while as its not a decade I am fond of... I do have a few faves from the 90s though.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:03
Not that familiar with the decade for symph, my favorite is probably Anglagard - Hybris.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:17
I hate Stardust We Are, a very big let down after strong releases in Back in the World of Adventure and Retropolis.

Anyaway, I'd say one of the Anglagard albums or maybe Disciplines Unfolded Like Staircase.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:21
^Yeah that was the first album I thought of too. Discipline´s new one I haven´t heard yet though, but I´m looking forward to it.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:24
Oh and I almost forgot!!!
Although it´s listed here under Heavy Prog - I consider Morte Macabre´s Symphonic Holocaust to be one of the high points of the symphonic genre in the 90s. Brilliant stuff!




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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:27
Marillion's  "Brave" for me. Simply one of the best concept albums ever. Dark, moving, wonderful stuff.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 10:38
Symphonic prog wasn't particularly happening in the '90's.  I just browsed the category and I'm going with Discipline Unfolded Like Staircase.  One that I didn't get until about a decade after it came out.  Stardust We Are is in the same category for me except it didn't really wow me like Staircase.


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 11:23
Hybris obviouskis

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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 11:47
Spock's Beard-The Light
Porcupine Tree-The Sky Moves Sideways


I need to give Discipline another listen.  


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 14:19
Not anything by Spock's Beard, Flower Kings or any related projects; that much is for damned sure


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 15:10
^Totally.Tongue

Probably Angalgard's Hybris for me too.  Although I don't know much 90's Symphonic because I think the sub-genre largely ran its course in the 70's.




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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 15:39
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Not anything by Spock's Beard, Flower Kings or any related projects; that much is for damned sure

not a huge SB fan either, but they were one of the top 5 prog bands in the 90s. no denying.  i curious what your pick would be.  i just assumed everyone on this board loved FKTongue


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 16:22
^Boy are you in for a surprise!LOL

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 17:58
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Not anything by Spock's Beard, Flower Kings or any related projects; that much is for damned sure

Cool

Camel's Rajaz comes to mind. Though i'm not into modern symph too much.


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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 20:21
Another vote to Hybris... 2000's has not bring anything close to that.


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 20:36
Top 5 maybe?

Hybris
Unfolded Like Staircase
as the world (echolyn)
Rajaz (Camel)
Merlin (Halloween)




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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 04:08
Constantly amazes me that this gem gets overlooked
 
 
...but Hybris is the correct answer to the OP.
 


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 12:05
I found very little outstanding Symph from the 90's. When taking all things prog into consideration, this is my favorite.




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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 12:32
Originally posted by yanch yanch wrote:

Marillion's  "Brave" for me. Simply one of the best concept albums ever. Dark, moving, wonderful stuff.

Brave is a superlative album, but hardly symphonic.

I think Rajaz would probably be my favourite of the decade.


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 13:05
Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

 i just assumed everyone on this board loved FKTongue
eeeeeeeeeeeeeew


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 13:46
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^Boy are you in for a surprise!LOL

LOL


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 14:03
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

 i just assumed everyone on this board loved FKTongue
eeeeeeeeeeeeeew


and you have the Moon Safari album cover as your avatar. That album goes further into the "cheese" than most TFK works do.

There are a lot of TFK fans on this site, but in the last few years, the TFK haters have come out of the wood-work. Probably got bored hatin' on Dream Theater.


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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 09:19
As the World........Echolyn


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 14:53
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

 i just assumed everyone on this board loved FKTongue
eeeeeeeeeeeeeew


and you have the Moon Safari album cover as your avatar. That album goes further into the "cheese" than most TFK works do.

I know I love it


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 15:18
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

 i just assumed everyone on this board loved FKTongue
eeeeeeeeeeeeeew


and you have the Moon Safari album cover as your avatar. That album goes further into the "cheese" than most TFK works do.

I know I love it


I'm just saying... If you like Moon Safari, I don't know how you don't like The Flower Kings Confused


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 18:39
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

 i just assumed everyone on this board loved FKTongue
eeeeeeeeeeeeeew


and you have the Moon Safari album cover as your avatar. That album goes further into the "cheese" than most TFK works do.

I know I love it


I'm just saying... If you like Moon Safari, I don't know how you don't like The Flower Kings Confused
cause they're a mess of a band that pumps out double CDs with 20 minute songs by the truckload. every album is like Tales From Topographic Oceans. Plus I find Moon Safari is cheesy in a hyper-melodic power-pop sort of way, whereas TFK just ends up sounding like adult contemporary and christian rock sometimes Dead


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 21:39
oh. well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, though I enjoy both bands... Tongue

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 16:39
I know that Yes with Trevor Rabin is generally looked down upon on this site, but it's not Rabin's fault he replaced Steve Howe.  The "Endless Dream",   from the 1994 "Talk" album is a worthy 90's prog masterpiece.   Take a listen and decide.
 
 
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Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 16:44
Wow, I just now realized... I don't listen to Symphonic Prog Stern Smile


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 16:51
Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

Wow, I just now realized... I don't listen to Symphonic Prog Stern Smile

Everyone loves TFK though :P


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 17:36
If the year 2000 is included in the 90s, then Somewhere to Elsewhere by Kansas and Cowboy Poems Free by Echolyn.

If not, Always Never the Same by Kansas.  Tongue


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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 19:29
First I want to say that I consider Neo Prog and Symphonic Prog to be largely overlapping. Having said that my best symphonic album of the '90 is IQ - Subterranea

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 23:20
Yeah, I personally find the distinction between Symphonic and "neo-prog" to be rather pointless...
I do wonder if the so-called neo-prog bands would get less hate if only we moved them all to the Symphonic category!


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 23:31
Nope, they still wouldn't be good. Smile

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 23:36
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Nope, they still wouldn't be good. Smile


But without the neo-prog label, how could you possibly know?
Tongue


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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: December 31 2011 at 21:06
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Yeah, I personally find the distinction between Symphonic and "neo-prog" to be rather pointless...
I do wonder if the so-called neo-prog bands would get less hate if only we moved them all to the Symphonic category!


I'm quite sure of this, since some people might start to listen to them instead of having this blind prejudice that all neo is derivative and simple. Here in the Netherlands we call everything in the symphonic and neo catagories "Symfonische Rock" and the distinction is not made.


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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 31 2011 at 21:15
My favorite of the decade is without a doubt Rocket Scientists' Brutal Architecture.  

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: January 01 2012 at 00:08
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

My favorite of the decade is without a doubt Rocket Scientists' Brutal Architecture.  

I almost put this in my list.  "Mariner" is an all time favorite!!


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