Is Neal Morse too Preachy?
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Topic: Is Neal Morse too Preachy?
Posted By: King of Loss
Subject: Is Neal Morse too Preachy?
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 19:13
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IS Neal Morse too Preachy? Vote and explain. |
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 19:24
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No, love his approach. He is completely honest. The things he says are authentic, and I guess that even those that consider him to be preachy still say that he believes in what he's singing. Having said that, I - being an atheist of sorts - like the way he "promotes" Jesus. I think that the concept of Jesus is the essence of what religion should be about. It's about giving more than you take. It's about doing the right thing. I even love his conversation with God (Cradle To The Grave). Phil Keaggy is awesome, and - as I said before - the complete authenticity of it all simply has to amaze everyone. That all that is built upon the grooves of a Jewish drummer makes it even more remarkable ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 03:57
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I don't think so. Mabye on occasion, but not overall. Personally, i like his style. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 04:18
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Neal is just expressing how he feels. IMO he tries to do that as excellently as he can. Prog has always been about people expressing their thoughts and feelings about all manner of things which affect us as human beings and no one is totally unbiased in this. Of course he is going to get a negative reaction from some people just simply because of the subject matter that he has chosen to write about, but I think he is a sensitive and thoughtful lyricist and his music has only been enhanced by his inspiration IMO. ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:08
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I don't think he preaches. he expresses himself from his own viewpoint! To preach would be to say that we have to believe too! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:22
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As I said in the SB thread, I love his music, but the lyrics still make me feel a bit uncomfortable. I am quite prepared to accept that the fault lies with me, and would perhaps prefer to adopt the stance taken by Mike & Snow Dog, but I can't help that overt christian lyrics grate with me, even more than satanic ones. Having said that, if you had grown up being made to go to church three times on a Sunday, and summer bible camp, where you are told repeatedly that all other christian & world religions are 'apostate' and don't believe the truth, then you might understand how I feel. If any of you have Magellan's 'Impossible Figures', then I'm more in tune with the track 'Late For Church'... and that is not out of disrespect for the religious beliefs of anyone on this site. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:25
Is that animation of yours saying something about 'taking the log out of the eye' Snow Dog.   ------------- Eternity |
Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:31
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I am not familiar with that phrase you strange Antipodean person! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:38
Jesus said 'If a man should judge his brother, let him first take the log out of his own eye, before he remove the splinter from his brother's'.. I thought that was quite clever actually.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:43
Quite understandable point of view in the circumstances and unfortunately to many people have been put off by religiosity  and the hypocrisy that goes with it when it is supposed to be about personal relationship. Trouble with what that does is that it puts a wedge between a person and that persons concept of who Christ is, because he has been so closely identified with 'the church', when in fact it says that 'Christ died for freedoms sake'. That is supposed to liberate not ensnare. ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:55
ohhhhh..I see! A log in his eye! Great stuff Jesus, was he a Python? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 06:12
I at first felt very special  because I have never been called an Antipodean personbut then I thought 'is it in relation to this thread' and is Podean some kind of deity that Snow Dog is worshipping and does he think I am anti podean which I'm not because I haven't even heard of Podea before but then I thought, perhaps Snow Dog thinks I am The Antipode himself (which I am not and do not believe that I have ever been except I did once have a very strange experience on some hash while watching TV along time ago in which my head appeared to enter the apparatus and take on the form of a test pattern until such time that I found myself at a set of traffic lights with another strange possibly antipodean person who was laughing hysterically at nothing in particular at which time I laughed with him until I think I nearly died.) Some instructions please. What is the code of the Antipode oh master Snow Dog. ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 07:39
That was some hash!!!!!! Now listen......You are not "The Antipode", what sort of sacrelegious nonsense is this! ( Unless you know something I don't know?) It is a as you say, that you are one of many "anti" Podean creatures, known as "Star Ranger" or "Strange" for short. Soon we ammass and attack that vile black hearted domain Podea and kill all the bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:19
     Oh,
I feel so released about that now. It was such a burden. Just show me
where they are Snow Dog. Let me at those pestilent putride purile
Podean pack of penis sniffing porkbangers. I wil wait for the signal "Star Rangers, to the Antipodes".------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:24
Calm down, we are not sufficiantly recruited or weaponed, and my Majicks are not yet fully empowered!!! And its "Star Ranger, to Podea not "The Antipodes". We're The Antipodeans!!!!!!!!!!!Pay attention! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:24
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When you're through with those cryptic nonsense posts, you might as well leave this thread alone for a while ... I think we were supposed to discuss Neal Morse here. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:30
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^ We've been rumbled...scarper! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:31
Sorry, flashback. the hash. I am Antipodeanically grateful for your correction master Snow Dog.
Snow Dog, I recently picked up a message from Mike who sent a coded
message, very cleverly disguising himself as an annoyed forum member.
Brilliant MIke. ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:33
Helter Skelter ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:35
Don't trust him. I think he may be a Podean spy!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:41
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I'm really annoyed ... you should create a thread in the just for fun area. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:45
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^ He says he's not a Podean but a Noyed. But do we believe him? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:48
Don't trust him. I think he may be a Podean spy!!! You are teaching me well Snow Dog.
I at first thought that the annoyed tone in his voice was an anti
podean cervical indicator registering discontent as a method of
transmitting antipodean messages to avoid detection from the Podean
Mancraft. Whew. Close call. I will turn up my parasensing device despite the pain it is causing to my left buttock.I must  soon as it is difficult to arise for my day job otherwise.------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:50
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Fare thee well Star Ranger! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:51
Are they dangerous??? Doesn't En Regalia mean 'In disguise'. Fare well to you to Star Ranger.------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:54
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Here is a picture of a Noyed..... Not dangerous! Have no fear, sleep at ease. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 13:45
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Wow, a good conversation going on here, well, in size maybe
not a real conversation, but whatever. Since I haven't voted yet, I will vote for: Sometimes, but the music is excellent Why did I vote for that? Because sometimes I am 100% turned up by Neal Morse's preaching, I mean seriously how far can a non-Christian stand his whining? I can listen to his music, which is excellent, but not for long. I'd 100% prefer TransAtlantic or his work on Kindness, Snow and V than his Testimony or One.. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 14:00
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Not a real conversation? I hope you are well protected! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 14:08
Not a real conversation? I hope you are well protected! [/QUOTE] A "real" conversation can be one on forums. I'm not mentioning a conversation of people on people, just a "real" meaningful conversation, oh well, whatever
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 14:15
I know what you meant, King of Floss! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 14:33
I know what you meant, King of Floss! QUOTE] Alright, now let's see who voted the first choice on my poll? |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: July 07 2005 at 17:43
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It would be interesting to see whether those who think that NM is too preachy, also feel the same about other Christian Prog Groups, such as Glass Hammer; particularly Lex Rex. Strangely, I don't seem to have the same problem with this....now there's inconsistent for you! ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 05:01
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I hope that one day Neal Morse finds a cure for his Religious Disease
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
