Dog Fashion Disco
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Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Dog Fashion Disco
Posted By: Failcore
Subject: Dog Fashion Disco
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 23:23
Polkadot Cadaver is here, so DFD seems like shoe in for sure. RIO/Avant maybe? Pretty dern similar to some of the Bungle stuff IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACo4OdmIogc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACo4OdmIogc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_rDPMt-E5U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_rDPMt-E5U
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 23:27
I'd say so, yeah! They are reminiscent of Mr. Bungle, and their phoenix project Polkadot Cadaver is here under prog metal.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 23:54
They've already been rejected in RIO / Avant and Metal.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 07:20
Hmm, well it really seems like they should be here, somewhere. It'd be a shame not have them on here just because we can't figure out what box to shove them in.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 10:17
Deathrabbit wrote:
Hmm, well it really seems like they should be here, somewhere. It'd be a shame not have them on here just because we can't figure out what box to shove them in. |
Welcome to Prog Archives! 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 10:49
Maybe there needs to be an additional genre "Stuff that we don't know what the crap it is"
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 13:27
Deathrabbit wrote:
Hmm, well it really seems like they should be here, somewhere. It'd be a shame not have them on here just because we can't figure out what box to shove them in. |
Hmm, ever considered that the fact that a band doesn't fit any of our boxes is the reason why we reject them? 
I admit there are cases where decisions are pending because bands fit multiple boxes, but I don't know if DFD is such a case, unless we add Faith No More first and then have all Patton clones to join the party.
Ask Rune2000, he's our DFD/Polkadot specialist 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 13:47
Okay. Oi, Rune2000, DFD, prog or not?
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 15:22
Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 15:32
Let's put it this way...
1). Everything I like is prog/art rock
2). I like DFD
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 15:33
That was fast 
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 15:38
We are, after all, talking about one of my eight all time favorite bands here!
- A.C.T
- Cardiacs
- Dog Fashion Disco
- Genesis
- Gentle Giant
- King Crimson
- The Residents
- Univers Zero
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 15:48
Well it would be a remarkable non-prog band in a list of proggies, but it's just circumstantial evidence that will not be withheld.  Hej wait, there's not one metal band there 
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 16:02
Bonnek wrote:
Well it would be a remarkable non-prog band in a list of proggies, but it's just circumstantial evidence that will not be withheld. Hej wait, there's not one metal band there
| I'd say that KC are pretty metal. Other than that... you're right!
Meshuggah was a clear candidate for one of my top favorites until they re-released "Nothing"... it's been downhill from there and on.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 16:06
some ACT is close to metal but what do i know, don't listen to me
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 16:24
What about Heavy Prog for DFD? Or crossover? We gotta find em a place, hell, I'll write the bio myself this weekend if you guys want.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 16:42
Let the rejected rest in peace. Though I have seen on this forum that bands rejected for one sub got picked up by another...
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 01:26
^ I don't agree with this notion considering that DFD have been wrongly rejected by the previous PMT.
According to them the band sounded like alternative metal! That's a comment from someone who clearly haven't heard DFD (or alternative metal?).
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 02:12
I rather meant that there's no way around the rules (unless new material and such...) Listening to these samples here and I'm a bit surprised admitted, there is alt metal in there but lots of other stuff as well, prog amongst it. Clearly avant-metal.
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 05:53
Bonnek wrote:
I rather meant that there's no way around the rules (unless new material and such...)Listening to these samples here and I'm a bit surprised admitted, there is alt metal in there but lots of other stuff as well, prog amongst it. Clearly avant-metal. | That's why I've been begging the guys at http://razortowrist.com" rel="nofollow - Razor To Wrist Records to release some more DFD material. Preferably a live recording of the recent reunion concert or b-side material.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 06:49
Just trying them out, listening to some tracks from Adultery now.
My god "Moonlight City Drive" sounds exactly like Mr. Bungle.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 19:21
Rune2000 wrote:
^ I don't agree with this notion considering that DFD have been wrongly rejected by the previous PMT.
According to them the band sounded like alternative metal! That's a comment from someone who clearly haven't heard DFD (or alternative metal?). |
Huh, alternative metal??? Yea, and I'm Octomom.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 19:35
Deathrabbit wrote:
Rune2000 wrote:
^ I don't agree with this notion considering that DFD have been wrongly rejected by the previous PMT.
According to them the band sounded like alternative metal! That's a comment from someone who clearly haven't heard DFD (or alternative metal?). |
Huh, alternative metal??? Yea, and I'm Octomom. |
How are the kids?
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 02:08
I'm actually very shocked they're still not here. Totally avant-metal, brah
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 15:30
Anyone doing anything on this?

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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 15:43
No, not without a new album.
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 15:58
Why do they need a new album to add them to PA?
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 15:59
Rules I guess. Something about decisions being final unless there is new information.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 16:01
It's because they've been rejected already.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 16:31
I support DFD for PA, and suggested it myself at one time (been suggested once before that and twice after that including this one), though I think I should have put it to the art rockers (Crossover or Eclectic) rather than having it go through the PMT (was rejected by avant before that). Sometimes bands have been rejected when they probably should have given a move vote (after all, one team is usually not an expert on another team's category). Adultery is PA relevant to me.
I think it at least PR worthy, but would rather not make a case for it to admin and let fashionable sleeping disco dogs lie.
For reference purposes, here are past discussions:
| http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81534&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow - - Dog - Fashion - Disco By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10800" rel="nofollow - Deathrabbit , September 27 2011 at 23:23 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81534&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco&PN=1" rel="nofollow - 1 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81534&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco&PN=2" rel="nofollow - 2 | 28 | 272 | By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20797" rel="nofollow - harmonium.ro Today at 16:01 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/get_last_post.asp?TID=81534&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow"> | | http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71452&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow - - Dog - Fashion - Disco (Avant) By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=29030" rel="nofollow - TheClosing , September 19 2010 at 02:47 | 7 | 171 | By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18270" rel="nofollow - SaltyJon September 22 2010 at 20:15 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/get_last_post.asp?TID=71452&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow"> | | http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51083&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow - - Dog - Fashion - Disco (for metal) By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=7680" rel="nofollow - Logan , August 19 2008 at 18:51 | 14 | 227 | By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19168" rel="nofollow - Plankowner August 19 2008 at 23:26 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/get_last_post.asp?TID=51083&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow"> | | http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38239&KW=Dog+FAshion+Disco" rel="nofollow - - Dog - Fashion - Disco By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12547" rel="nofollow - Drakk , May 22 2007 at 21:48 | 5 | 163 | By http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12547" rel="nofollow - Drakk July 15 2007 at 16:39 |
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 16:43
Yeah honestly if Mr. Bungle is in PA so should DFD.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 06:13
^ we don't think like that here.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 13:16
frippism wrote:
Yeah honestly if Mr. Bungle is in PA so should DFD. |
You're right, at least if you rephrase it like "bands should be considered if they take in considerable influences from an established Prog band". By means of comparison, PA list anything that sounds remotely like Genesis or Yes. So the "if X then Y" is perfectly logical reasoning. I can't see what's wrong with that.
Not being a specialist on either bands I know them enough to see how mr Bungle is regarded as full-blown avant-prog and DFD is not. DFD would be a good match for 'art metal' in exp/post though (they are at least 50% mr Bungle) so I can't understand them being rejected frankly.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 13:27
^ Very good post, Bonnek.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 12:34
@Bonnek-I agree wholeheartedly. The really funny thing is that Polkadot Cadaver is already here and they are basically a less prog version of the same band. Sex Offender was almost radio-viable.
Edit: Oi, Rune, did you see this?
From wiki: "On June 25, 2011, at the second of two consecutive reunion shows, Dog
Fashion Disco announced it will be releasing an acoustic album. This
album will be released on their new record label, Razor To Wrist.
Attendees of the reunion shows with VIP passes were provided with a code
that allowed them to download an acoustic version of their song "Sweet
Insanity." That concert series will also be released via DVD at a later
date."
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 12:41
Deathrabbit wrote:
@Bonnek-I agree wholeheartedly. The really funny thing is that Polkadot Cadaver is already here and they are basically a less prog version of the same band. Sex Offender was almost radio-viable.
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Let's skip this discussion and hope that Knives Out will get added once http://www.razortowrist.com/" rel="nofollow - their new record hits the streets ! 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 12:45
Kewl!
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 16:20
Deathrabbit wrote:
The really funny thing is that Polkadot Cadaver is already here and they are basically a less prog version of the same band. |
It's not funny at all, mr. Rune would have come to slit our throats had we voted against them 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 18:52
Haha.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 09:41
So a band that's basically the exact same is here and they aren't? That's...odd.
I just came to look at their ratings on the site and maybe rate 100% positive they'd be here and they aren't. Huh. Think that should be rethought for sure.
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 14:05
You're a bit late to the party... but you're welcome nonetheless!
Please take the time and read the rest of this thread. Hopefully it will answer your question.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 17:54
I know I'm late. I just came here to post in the suggest bands and saw someone else did first. Then I saw they were rejected which shocked me greatly. 
I just can't fathom them being rejected. They are the textbook definition of proggy avant-garde metal.
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 18:20
I completely agree with the fact that DFD are an experimental metal band that is worthy of their prog recognition. If you'll look at my profile then you'll note that I'm a huge DFD fan and know all of their albums inside out. Unfortunately this doesn't help the cause since a rejected band will remain this way unless they release new material (which is unlikely) or move them for evaluation to another sub-genre team (which hasn't worked out so far).
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 19:58
I think it's time Admin had another look at this rule whereby a rejected band can only be re-evaluated if they release new material or get taken up by another sub genre team. There are obviously several cases where bands have been rejected by previous incarnations of the evaluation teams, and the vast majority of members expressing an opinion believe these rejections to have been in error. Dog Fashion Disco is one example, Coroner is another that cropped up only yesterday. I believe that if a completely new evaluation team is in place from the one that rejected the band initially, and the resolve of the members of that team is sufficiently strong to vote unanimously for the band to be added - then they should be allowed to do so. This is after all an archive site, and if the archives have gaps in the database due to 'errors' on the part of previous evaluation teams, then it isn't entirely fulfilling its role as an archive site. A procedure needs to be made available to us so that we can correct cases such as these without having to wait for new material to be released by the band/artist concerned, material which indeed may never be forthcoming.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 00:30
Rune2000 wrote:
I completely agree with the fact that DFD are an experimental metal band that is worthy of their prog recognition. If you'll look at my profile then you'll note that I'm a huge DFD fan and know all of their albums inside out. Unfortunately this doesn't help the cause since a rejected band will remain this way unless they release new material (which is unlikely) or move them for evaluation to another sub-genre team (which hasn't worked out so far). |
I'm a big fan as well. Oh well, it's a damned shame. Hopefully stuff changes.
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 13:05
Let's take it one step at the time and try to get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knives_Out%21" rel="nofollow - Knives Out! on PA seeing that they just released a new album. 
http://open.spotify.com/album/39J4z5ryoHxcRJqnpuXe8G" rel="nofollow - Knives Out! – Black Mass Hysteria
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