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Topic: Top 5 favourite Emerson Lake And Palmer songsPosted By: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: Top 5 favourite Emerson Lake And Palmer songs
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 19:57
My list goes something like this: 1.Karn Evil 9 (including all parts) 2.Tarkus 3.Jerusalem 4.The Endless Enigma (including fugue and both parts) 5.Take A Pebble
Runner ups: Abaddon's Bolero, Three Fates, Tocatta.
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Replies: Posted By: MattGuitat
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 20:07
1. 1. Karn Evil 9 (of course all parts!)
2. Tarkus
3. Pirates
4. Still...You Turn Me On
5. Take a Pebble
2.
Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 20:20
1. Tarkus (live)
2. The Endless Enigma
3. The Barbarian
4. Trilogy
5. Karn Evil 9 (live)
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Posted By: GoldenGod2112
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 20:36
1. Karn Evil 9 (Duh)
2. Trilogy
3. Hoedown
4. Knife-Edge
5. Tarkus
Endless Enigma would be number 6. :P
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 20:38
5 songs off of their debut.
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 20:50
my favorite ELP music is the Pictures At An Exhibition live album from '71-there are more than five parts, though, so i guess i'll say the first five parts of that album
Posted By: GoldenGod2112
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 20:50
presdoug wrote:
my favorite ELP music is the Pictures At An Exhibition live album from '71-there are more than five parts, though, so i guess i'll say the first five parts of that album
That's a very great album.
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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 22:28
I don't want to mention my top five, just point to this rare live version of Trilogy:
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 01:37
Horizons wrote:
5 songs off of their debut.
which 5?
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 01:39
1 Karn Evil 9 (live)
2 Tarkus (live)
3 Pirates
4 Trilogy
5 From The Beginning
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 02:11
Karn Evil 9 The Barbarian From the Beginning The Three Fates (why can so few people spell) Toccata
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"He's up the pub"
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 04:16
Karn Evil 9 The Barbarian Knife Edge Trilogy Benny the Bouncer (really, I love it to bits, I ain't trolling)
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 04:29
1. C'est la vie
2. Take a Pebble
3. Tarkus
4. Bitches Crystal
5. Jerusalem
Frankly I only care about the first three.
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 04:51
ExittheLemming wrote:
Benny the Bouncer (really, I love it to bits, I ain't trolling)
Yes I like Benny, sort of sounds like a punky Chas and Dave. And nearly as funny as the lyrics is that even on a throwaway track like this Emerson still has to show off how fast he can play!
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"He's up the pub"
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 05:01
^ Yep, the lyrics are an unbridled joy plus it contains one of the most thrilling piano solos in the history of popular music (Full stop)
They tried to stick together all the bits that would fit, but some of him was missing and part of him arrived too late So now he works for Jesus as the bouncer at St Peter's Gate(ah)
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 05:18
Tarkus
Take a pebble
Trilogy
From the beginning
Fanfare for the common man
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Posted By: GoldenGod2112
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 11:19
Are you ready Eddy!?
------------- The future's uncertain and the end is always near. - Jim Morrison
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 14:51
Blacksword wrote:
Tarkus Take a pebble Trilogy From the beginning Fanfare for the common man
I'm pleased someone picked Fanfare. It suffered a bit from the Smoke On The Water/Money syndrome of too much airplay on radio breading contempt but it is a unique track and Palmer never sounded or played better than on the studio version. Apparently they tried hard to improve on the first studio take but in the end settled on their initial performance with a few overdubs.It was a little bit of magic that was never to be repeated.
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 15:41
Tarkus
The Endless Enigma
Karn Evil 9
Knife Edge
Living Sin
Posted By: patday34
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 18:51
Tarkus
Knife edge
Karn evil 9
Take a pebble
Jerusalem
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 04:40
richardh wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Tarkus Take a pebble Trilogy From the beginning Fanfare for the common man
I'm pleased someone picked Fanfare. It suffered a bit from the Smoke On The Water/Money syndrome of too much airplay on radio breading contempt but it is a unique track and Palmer never sounded or played better than on the studio version. Apparently they tried hard to improve on the first studio take but in the end settled on their initial performance with a few overdubs.It was a little bit of magic that was never to be repeated.
If I'm playing music while I've got non prog fans over for drinks or dinner, Fanfare is always on my 'prog lite' play list. It's always fairly well recieved too.
When I want folks to go home, I'll slip on some Gentle Giant..
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 04:43
GoldenGod2112 wrote:
Are you ready Eddy!?
Now you are trolling
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 04:44
Trilogy is the best song by ELP then Tarkus are second , i like the West End sound of Trilogy it's operatic sounds is beautifull and the frentic instrumental section is fuled with tonns of energy.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:20
aginor wrote:
Trilogy is the best song by ELP then Tarkus are second , i like the West End sound of Trilogy it's operatic sounds is beautifull and the frentic instrumental section is fuled with tonns of energy.
I seem to remember reading somwhere that something happened to the mastertape of the first recording of Trilogy and they had to redo it. Apparently the first version was even better.
Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:45
1. Fanfare for the Common Man
2. Knife Edge
3. The Barbarian
4. From the Beginning
5. The Sheriff
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Posted By: boom
Date Posted: October 01 2011 at 04:47
1. Tarkus 2. Endless Enigma 3. Trilogy 4. Living Sin 5. Bitches Crystal
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 02 2011 at 05:52
Two people have now included Living Sin in their selection. I've always liked this track. Bit darker than normal ELP fare with Palmer laying down a sort of groovy beat. Lake sounds almost 'nasty' while Emerson ..is just brilliant. Some ELP fans actually regard this as 'filler'.
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 02 2011 at 06:01
^ Indeed, it's always sounded 'improvised in the studio' to me (which is no slight on its merits) and probably the best song Deep Purple didn't write. I like how they exploit the quasi oriental implications of the lengthy riff, which unlike most heavy rock vehicles, takes several measures to resolve itself.
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Posted By: Chiswyck
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 20:25
I'm not very familiar with much Emerson, Lake & Palmer, but "Jerusalem" is definitely my favourite so far.
It's just... beautiful.
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You're only wasting your time;
Workin' for the rat race;
You're no friend of mine.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 16:22
Slightly off topic but this a tribute version of ELP's rendition of Jerusalem that is actually rather good
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 17 2011 at 22:12
1. Karn Evil 9 (Impressions 1&3)
2. Tarkus
3. Hoedown
4. A Time and a Place
5. Tank
Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: December 17 2011 at 23:06
1. Karn Evil 9, First Impression 2. The Barbarian 3. Tarkus 4. Hut Of Baba Yaga/Curse Of Baba Yaga
5. The Endless Enigma
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Posted By: Glimmung
Date Posted: December 17 2011 at 23:12
1.Tarkus 2.The Endless Enigma 3.Living Sin 4.Knife Edge 5.From the Beginning
Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 00:31
1. Karn Evil 9 (Live + All parts)
2. The Barbarian
3. The Sage
4. Trilogy
5. Piano Improvisations
Posted By: engrwulf
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 07:50
Tarkus
Rome and Juliet
Eruption
Atropos
Karn Evil 9
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 08:56
GoldenGod2112 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my favorite ELP music is the Pictures At An Exhibition live album from '71-there are more than five parts, though, so i guess i'll say the first five parts of that album
That's a very great album.
I agree.
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 10:09
Tarkus
Trilogy
The Endless Enigma
The Barbarian
KE9
but I love many others!
Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 10:58
Tarkus
Karn Evil 9
Trilogy
Toccata
The Endless Enigma
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 11:00
Karn Evil 9
Tarkus
Endless Enigma (All parts)
Toccata
Three Fates
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 12:59
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
My list goes something like this: 1.Karn Evil 9 (including all parts) 2.Tarkus 3.Jerusalem 4.The Endless Enigma (including fugue and both parts) 5.Take A Pebble
Runner ups: Abaddon's Bolero, Three Fates, Tocatta.
Almost this. Although I would replace #3 with Pirates.
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Posted By: Heathcliffe
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 23:21
Black Moon.
Lucky Man.
Tarkus.
In the Begining.
Still you turn me on.
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 23:41
1- Take a Pebble
2- C'est la vie
3- In the Beginning
4- Romeo and Juliet
5- Jerusalem
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 01:48
^ I presume you both meant From The Beginning?
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 04:53
1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
2. Karn Evil 9 (Live)
3 .C'est la Vie
4. Tarkus ( Live)
5. The Endless Enigma
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 05:44
^ I applaud the choice of Hallowed Be Thy Name, one of the most unjustly neglected songs of Greg's career
1 - Karn Evil 9 (all of it, every second, even the silence before it starts and after it ends) 2 - The Barbarian 3 - The Old Castle/Blues Variation 4 - Pirates 5 - A Time and a Place
(the list goes on)
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 05:51
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 06:10
Snow Dog wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ erm....if push came to shove....no not really (but I think Keith plays piano on it?)
I don't think he does, but I will definitely check. And even if he does Mike Rutherford plays on Voyage of the Acolyte.
BUT....I suppose thechnically, as you say....it was released under the ELP banner. It is just my finnicky ways. I would never include it is all.
Plus..aren't the sides named? Like Side 1 Keith Emerson......Side 2 Greg Lake etc?
Plus having a big piccy of each of the lads ALONE adorning the sleeve artwork? OK it's a fair cop police sniffer dog and I will ban anyone permanently who dares list this song as one of their choices forthwith You're certainly none too fus(s)y about spelling are you?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 06:12
ExittheLemming wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ erm....if push came to shove....no not really (but I think Keith plays piano on it?)
I don't think he does, but I will definitely check. And even if he does Mike Rutherford plays on Voyage of the Acolyte.
BUT....I suppose thechnically, as you say....it was released under the ELP banner. It is just my finnicky ways. I would never include it is all.
Plus..aren't the sides named? Like Side 1 Keith Emerson......Side 2 Greg Lake etc?
Plus having a big piccy of each of the lads ALONE adorning the sleeve artwork? OK it's a fair cop police sniffer dog and I will ban anyone permanently who dares list this song as one of their choices forthwith
That's the spirit!
Edit
Ok. Halowed Be Thy name was originally proposed for Brain Salad Surgery. Emerson does indeed play on it and from what I can divine, so does Palmer.
So it turns out to be more of an ELP song than I imagined.
TRILOGY is such a great album - Palmer sounds HUGE on it.........not one wasted second throughout.
Posted By: coupons
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 05:39
.Pirates (Works vol. 1) Tarkus (Tarkus) . The Great Gates of Kiev (Pictures at An Exhibition) .Trilogy (Trilogy) .Take A Pebble (Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Welcome Back My Friends) Black Moon (Black Moon) Watching Over You (Works, Vol. 2)
Posted By: wehpanzer
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 05:39
Karn Eval 9 (1st Impression)The Endless EnigmaStill...You Turn Me OnBrain Salad SurgeryPictures at an Exhibition
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 06:41
Endless Enigma (counting both parts and Fugue as 1 track)
Karn Evil 9
Take a Pebble (Welcome Back My Friends... version)
Aquatarkus (ditto)
The Sheriff (just to be different)
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 15:31
1.Karn Evil 9 2.Tarkus 3. The Endless Enigma Suite 4. Trilogy 5. From The Beginning or The Sheriff(why not)
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 23:53
1. Tarkus
2. The Barbarian
3. Take a Pebble
4. Karn Evil 9
5. The Three Fates
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 00:36
Out of the songs of theirs that I know:
1. Tarkus
2. Jerusalem
3. Karn Evil 9
4. Pirates
5. Take A Pebble
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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 02:48
1. Tarkus
2. Pictures at an Exhibition
3. Take a Pebble
4. Fanfare for the Common Man
5. Jerusalem
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:10
1) Karn Evil 9 (the entire suite)
2) Lucky Man
3) The Great Gates of Kiev
4) The Endless Enigma (the entire suite)
5) The Miracle
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 08:44
Take A Pebble
Karn Evil 9
Tarkus
Fanfare for Common Man
Black Moon
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 08:45
Are there any good songs on Works Vol 2?
I cant find any really
my review:
So bad it was made into a live concert!!!!
Works 1 was an appalling egotistical trip at the lowest level - there were 2 great tracks Pirates and Fanfare for the common man. Thus deserved at least 2 stars. I want to request that prog archives include a no stars option just for this album.
Works 2 is not progressive, more offensive!
Works 2 is another of the less memorable efforts from these brilliant symphonic prog pioneers. Works 1 was saved by the aforementioned tracks. However this second effort is a cousin to the abomination that causes desolation ........... appalling and too mainstream for my prog tastes.
Certainly its not half as bad as the dreadful 'Love Beach', an album that should be flushed down the nearest sewer, however 'Works 2' has nothing of note to recommend it. The Father Christmas song is kitsch beyond belief. It sounds like the Goodies parody of Christmas. But not as funny, more infuriating. The film clip is not much better. I have programmed my remote control to fast forward past it everytime it comes to that spot on the DVD.
Brain Salad Surgery is OK - the B side to Fanfare single. Barrelhouse Shake-Down is awful! Maple Leaf Rag is forgettable. Close But Not Touching is OK, Honky Tonk Train Blues is as bad as it sounds and Show Me The Way To Go Home was sung better by the drunken sailors in Spielberg's 'Jaws'!
I didn't mind some of the tracks on side 2, that kind of grow on you like a fungus, but at the time of this writing, I can't recommend one track. They range from OK, passable, to slap-your-grandmother godawful!
If you want to hear brilliant ELP check out the awesome trilogy of albums Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery and Trilogy. After listening to Works 2, it's difficult to imagine the same band was generating this dreadful material. Gone are the outstanding multi movement suites such as 'Karn Evil 9' and Tarkus, Lake's vocals sound tired, whimsical and sappy beyond belief. The virtuoso playing of the afore- mentioned 3 albums is sorely lacking, and it's all so safe and mainstream. What a mess.
For completists only, and then you will probably only play it once.
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Posted By: Neelus
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 09:05
1. Take a pebble 2. Trilogy 3. From the beginning 4. Tarkus 5. Tank
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 14:08
Works Vol 2 should never have been released as fully fledged album in its own right as it was really for fans and completionists and would have been better as bonus giveway to go with Works 2. Perhaps that was the original intention but the record co intervened?
I wouldn't be so so harsh on it though.
Lake's Christmas record is an absolute pleasure to me. Three verses - past ,present and future. The use of Prokoviev's 'Troika' theme was perfect.
Honky Tonk Train Blues. Love this and was a decent size hit at the time (1976). Also I think it has Jon Hiseman on drums but I've never been able to confirm that.
When The Apple Blossom Blooms - groovy!
So Far To Fall - naughty and nice jazzy track although Emerson's keyboards are mixed so ridiculously low its unreal.
Close But Not Touching - Carl Palmer and the Harry South Orchestra doing an alternative Sweeney theme tune maybe. I love this as well.
Brain Salad Surgery - probably the best track on the album and like When The Apple Blossom Blooms was from the BSS sessions
I think those are the tracks that rescue Works 2. The rest is okay to forgettable..
Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 14:56
Hard to choose... They are awesome enough for a Top 5... I think I will make some rules for myself to make this easier: only one song per album , full suites, and I will not list Pictures because it's a live record.
1 - Tarkus
2 - Karn Evil 9
3 - Living Sin
4 - The Barbarian
5 - Paper Blood
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 15:27
richardh wrote:
Works Vol 2 should never have been released as fully fledged album in its own right as it was really for fans and completionists and would have been better as bonus giveway to go with Works 2. Perhaps that was the original intention but the record co intervened?
I wouldn't be so so harsh on it though.
Lake's Christmas record is an absolute pleasure to me. Three verses - past ,present and future. The use of Prokoviev's 'Troika' theme was perfect.
Honky Tonk Train Blues. Love this and was a decent size hit at the time (1976). Also I think it has Jon Hiseman on drums but I've never been able to confirm that.
When The Apple Blossom Blooms - groovy!
So Far To Fall - naughty and nice jazzy track although Emerson's keyboards are mixed so ridiculously low its unreal.
Close But Not Touching - Carl Palmer and the Harry South Orchestra doing an alternative Sweeney theme tune maybe. I love this as well.
Brain Salad Surgery - probably the best track on the album and like When The Apple Blossom Blooms was from the BSS sessions
I think those are the tracks that rescue Works 2. The rest is okay to forgettable..
Fanfare was marked for release on vol2 but you are forgetting another BSS song, Tiger in the Spotlight. I actually totally disagree with the above review and abhor it.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 19:26
Barbarian
Take a Pebble
Knife Edge
Endless Enigma
Tarkus
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 01:02
Snow Dog wrote:
richardh wrote:
Works Vol 2 should never have been released as fully fledged album in its own right as it was really for fans and completionists and would have been better as bonus giveway to go with Works 2. Perhaps that was the original intention but the record co intervened?
I wouldn't be so so harsh on it though.
Lake's Christmas record is an absolute pleasure to me. Three verses - past ,present and future. The use of Prokoviev's 'Troika' theme was perfect.
Honky Tonk Train Blues. Love this and was a decent size hit at the time (1976). Also I think it has Jon Hiseman on drums but I've never been able to confirm that.
When The Apple Blossom Blooms - groovy!
So Far To Fall - naughty and nice jazzy track although Emerson's keyboards are mixed so ridiculously low its unreal.
Close But Not Touching - Carl Palmer and the Harry South Orchestra doing an alternative Sweeney theme tune maybe. I love this as well.
Brain Salad Surgery - probably the best track on the album and like When The Apple Blossom Blooms was from the BSS sessions
I think those are the tracks that rescue Works 2. The rest is okay to forgettable..
Fanfare was marked for release on vol2 but you are forgetting another BSS song, Tiger in the Spotlight. I actually totally disagree with the above review and abhor it.
I didn't realise that Tiger In A Spotlight was from the BSS sessions.It wasn't on the NME giveaway. Not a great track though so I'm not surprised they hid it for so long.
ACR is perfectly entitled to his opinion although I think its dangerous to write off large chunks of music. Some of the solo music on Vol One is of a very high standard. I love Carl Palmer's side and the Piano Concerto is excellent to me although I know very little about classical music. Lake's songs are quite okay but I would have preferred a bit more variation in style. Wouldn't have done him any harm to through a heavier track or two in.
My ratings
Vol 1 - 3 stars(not enough prog)
Vol 2 would be 2 stars - one for the fans.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 01:10
VOTOMS wrote:
Hard to choose... They are awesome enough for a Top 5... I think I will make some rules for myself to make this easier: only one song per album , full suites, and I will not list Pictures because it's a live record.
1 - Tarkus
2 - Karn Evil 9
3 - Living Sin
4 - The Barbarian
5 - Paper Blood
Living Sin and Paper Blood are interesting choices. You might not know but Paper Blood came originalyl from a short lived collaboration with Geoff Downes called 'Ride The Tiger' and was called Money Talks. You can find it on Lake's retrospective album 'From The Beginning'.
always thought Living Sin was ELP's attempt to be a bit edgy like The Doors. Partial success I think. Palmer lays down a nice groove and Lake reaches some low baritone register that is almost off the scale. Emerson rips up the organ as usual. I find it all a bit disjointed though
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 07:31
richardh wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
richardh wrote:
Works Vol 2 should never have been released as fully fledged album in its own right as it was really for fans and completionists and would have been better as bonus giveway to go with Works 2. Perhaps that was the original intention but the record co intervened?
I wouldn't be so so harsh on it though.
Lake's Christmas record is an absolute pleasure to me. Three verses - past ,present and future. The use of Prokoviev's 'Troika' theme was perfect.
Honky Tonk Train Blues. Love this and was a decent size hit at the time (1976). Also I think it has Jon Hiseman on drums but I've never been able to confirm that.
When The Apple Blossom Blooms - groovy!
So Far To Fall - naughty and nice jazzy track although Emerson's keyboards are mixed so ridiculously low its unreal.
Close But Not Touching - Carl Palmer and the Harry South Orchestra doing an alternative Sweeney theme tune maybe. I love this as well.
Brain Salad Surgery - probably the best track on the album and like When The Apple Blossom Blooms was from the BSS sessions
I think those are the tracks that rescue Works 2. The rest is okay to forgettable..
Fanfare was marked for release on vol2 but you are forgetting another BSS song, Tiger in the Spotlight. I actually totally disagree with the above review and abhor it.
I didn't realise that Tiger In A Spotlight was from the BSS sessions.It wasn't on the NME giveaway. Not a great track though so I'm not surprised they hid it for so long.
ACR is perfectly entitled to his opinion although I think its dangerous to write off large chunks of music. Some of the solo music on Vol One is of a very high standard. I love Carl Palmer's side and the Piano Concerto is excellent to me although I know very little about classical music. Lake's songs are quite okay but I would have preferred a bit more variation in style. Wouldn't have done him any harm to through a heavier track or two in.
My ratings
Vol 1 - 3 stars(not enough prog)
Vol 2 would be 2 stars - one for the fans.
For me Works Volume 2 was a decent but uninspired 3 star compilation album. Let's remember it was used as a means to stem the flow of losses suffered by a band
who were hemorrhaging huge amounts of cash during a crippling orchestral tour. There's very little on the record that is complete dross (although Close But Not Touching is perhaps the most unwittingly ironic track title of all time) Bullfrog is brilliant (albeit it's Palmer, Aspery and Hodgkinson from Back Door) The deflated version of I Believe in Father Christmas is far superior to the pompous and bloated orchestral single version in my book Watching Over You is an excellent Greg Lake acoustic song (with some nifty harmonica and upright bass to boot) So Far to Fall is brilliant, with very clever lyrics and an arrangement that rivals the very best of "Organ trio and big band" work produced by the late Jimmy Smith I even enjoy Show me the way to Go Home, as ELP were probably the only Prog giant that had sufficient cojones to carry this off with their signature swagger
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 08:56
Show Me The Way To Go Home suited their personalities well I thought. I can't agree on I Believe In Father Christmas as such although I like both versions (and also the third version that was included on the box set). Atlantic probably panicked a bit as the musical landscape was fast changing and they needed to get their pound of flesh out of ELP before it was too late. It was a very unfortunate time for them as a band. It seems to me that the long term fall out of this period in terms of their reputation and standing was much greater than the relatively small financial amounts recouped from 3 sub standard albums ( Works 2, Love Beach and In Concert).
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 10:06
^ that's a valid point, as their artistic reputation was probably damaged irreparably from the battering they took post '77. This antipathy is supported by both the younger generation on PA and a music press the former profess to abhor?. I think even now, despite the legacy of a body of work as unimpeachable as the first 5 albums, ELP are still attracting flak for the sorts of music they were only guilty of producing for maybe 3 years out of a 24 year career? After the rather ordinary In Concert, what recoveries they made with the very respectable ELPowell record and Black Moon/Albert Hall offerings were completely undone by the debacle of In the Hot Seat. No-one judges Manchester Utd as being second rate just because they were in the 2nd tier of English Football for a short while in the mid 70's, so why is it thus for ELP? (Five Cup Final victories cannot be erased by one relegation)
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 02:20
^ I was disappointed with the ELPowell record (Mars aside) but otherwise I totally agree. ELP made some exceptional music at their best and deserve credit for that.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 13:37
1. Brain Salad Surgery
2. From The Beginning
3. Take A Pebble
4. Trilogy
5. Touch and Go (nobody else will pick this song, haha)