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Topic: Tony or Chris?Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Tony or Chris?
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 05:34
Second part of contest between generally respected Prog bass guitarists, highly placed in my previous polls. Let´s say 2nd Semifinal...
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Replies: Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 05:53
Not fair! My 2 favorite players of all time! They are different but so good. For this poll, Chris by the slightest of margins, mainly because I was into Yes before I heard Levin play with Peter Gabriel. Can't go wrong either way.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 05:53
Tony Levin is a bass-playing Cyborg while Chris Squire is a bass-playing Wizard, Tony is more technical while Chris is more intuative and natural, both have good sound and are solid back-bones on any bands, Squire is more innovative while Tony is more flexible, since he is mainly a session bass-player he is better to switch mentality from easy playing to technical playing and also are aquierd to restraind if needed, while Squire is a lead figure in one band and does not need to hide his signature style. while Tony for his bass jobs needs to be able both to be subtle but also loud and technical, be abel to play any given genres to satisfy his wallet. Chris has only a handfull of bands to focus on have Tony 1000nds of bands. that gives the liberty for Chris to be more distinct to evolve and develop his signature sound, while Tonys "job" needs more flexibilaty and musical knowledge.
like comparing Lukather to Fripp or Hackett, a sesson musician to a guitarist who can develop hes own nieche and sound sticked to his self interest, while Robert and Steve H, can develop their techniques according to their own bands, and solo-interest, Luke have to always addapt new styles, be up to date technically to be in his jobb, he must be abel to play country if needed (note for note), jazz (same), samba, rock, metal, pop, funk, blues. Robert and Hackett can choose to and have chosen and intuned their own style sound into their music,. Fripp has chosed to never use blues scales into his playing and avoids pentatonics, though Luke have basics lies in Jazz rather then Blues his phrasings and playing is closer to Fripps then Hakcets, who are classical/blues styled, Luke is Jazz styled and chromatic scaled based, rearøy do we se Lukather play pentatonic scales or blues scales,
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 06:58
I give Chris Squire the lead (although I like Tony Levin almost as much...).
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 07:16
Tony Levin!
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 07:22
Levin is probably more eclectic while Squire has a very personal style. Two of the greatest bassists ever. I can't vote.
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Posted By: glenn_ecko
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 08:13
Chris is on my Top 5 list - Tony is on my Top 10.
Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 09:53
Both but prefer Chris as a composer
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 10:58
Chris Squire.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 11:10
Squire for me
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 11:45
Chrissy Poo
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 11:55
Equally share the level of bass proficiency, innovation and style....... so I'll vote based on them as a person.
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 22:15
Mister Christopher Squire!
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 20:45
Tony Levin
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 21:00
akaBona wrote:
absolutelu no competition here. there's no way Squire can compete re all the fantastic work Levin has done.
Good point! I voted for Squire out of habit, but considering Levin's amazing catalog (including amazing work with John Lennon on "Double Fantasy," with Fripp and the Roche sisters, ABWH etc.) I'm waffling.
I just loved Squire's innovation in the early 70's, when he helped lead the development of the "lead Rick bass" technique. He still has chops, so he got my vote. Very close.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 22:15
Squire for me.
Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 01:28
Love them both, but Chris for me!
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Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 02:38
Chris Squire, my fave bass player - enough said!
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 03:05
According to one previous post, I prefer Wizard over Cyborg. Thus - Chris.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 05:29
Levin by a very long way.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 06:17
I'm sure Levin is a genius on his bass, but I happen to love Squire's style, and Squire is good at what he does, too, so Squire it is.
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 06:25
For a second I was wondering whether there was a reason to choose between Tony R and Chris S.
Anyway, these guys can't be compared - there two completely different bass players who would both fail if playing outside their own 'frame' and succeed very well within. Their both great, so no need to choose here.
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 11 2011 at 10:11
Both are great! (Voted Squire because I was forced to...)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 01:15
Chris Squire
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 02:12
I'm a bass player, and I always look at it like this:
Chris Squire is the best rock/prog bass player (pick using style) of all time for me, no questions.
Someone like Tony Levin might be better finger style/traditionally. They are each masters of their own take on the instrument, and it really is apples and oranges after a certain point.
Would you compare Les Claypool to Ray Shulman? Very diverse styles, and I'd argue that even though Claypool might be a premier player, Shulman has written many of the best, most creative bass lines on par wit Squire using a pick.
I love them all in their own way! Squire on this one, though!
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 02:17
I really respect both, but it´s Chris to me, much more same kind of style of bass playing as I have also.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 02:28
Mortte wrote:
I really respect both, but it´s Chris to me, much more same kind of style of bass playing as I have also.
Likewise, and good to hear! Another pick-playing player here?
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 07:59
Tony was probably the better player technically , but there was something special about Chris, especially on stage. He was like no other, so Chris gets my vote.
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 08:31
Tony's great but c'mon now. Stop the madness!!! Chris Squire!!!!!!!! Forever.
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 09:21
They don't play the same instrument.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 09:37
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
I'm a bass player, and I always look at it like this:
Chris Squire is the best rock/prog bass player (pick using style) of all time for me, no questions.
Someone like Tony Levin might be better finger style/traditionally. They are each masters of their own take on the instrument, and it really is apples and oranges after a certain point.
Would you compare Les Claypool to Ray Shulman? Very diverse styles, and I'd argue that even though Claypool might be a premier player, Shulman has written many of the best, most creative bass lines on par wit Squire using a pick.
I love them all in their own way! Squire on this one, though!
Chris Squire is one of the titans of rock bass. I do love the fact he played with a pick. Tony Franklin's another excellent player who can switch between finger style and pick at will, so there's another example of why bassists shouldn't avoid using the pick. That's how you get a nice plucky attack that cuts through the mix.
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 11:22
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Mortte wrote:
I really respect both, but it´s Chris to me, much more same kind of style of bass playing as I have also.
Likewise, and good to hear! Another pick-playing player here?
I have played both in fingers and with pick, started pick-playing and yes, there is something much more greater with pick-playing!
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 12:02
Squire. I saw Levin live with Crimso' in '81, and he was a little all over the place (an attractive attribute to many bloggers here, I'm sure). Squire held that steady bass line while adding substantial melodic flourishes along the way.
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 15:29
Two superb bass players - but I also prefer Chris's style
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 17:51
Chris Squire... sovereign !!!
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 20:16
Both are beasts but I have to go with Squire
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 18 2018 at 21:29
Oh fudge !! I’m not even gonna bother. Two equal talents, gold vs. gold.
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: April 19 2018 at 15:45
Chris
Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: April 22 2018 at 12:10
Rednight wrote:
Squire. I saw Levin live with Crimso' in '81, and he was a little all over the place (an attractive attribute to many bloggers here, I'm sure). Squire held that steady bass line while adding substantial melodic flourishes along the way.
And I saw KC a couple years ago, and there were three drummers and one bassist. And Mr.Levin I believe is one of a few bassist that can hold that position. He wasn't what I'd call "all over the place".
Angelo wrote:
Anyway, these guys can't be compared - there two completely different
bass players who would both fail if playing outside their own 'frame'
and succeed very well within.
What? Tony has proven he can pretty much play with anyone. What would you consider his "fame" to be? To me his "fame" is being a premier session bassist, so whats on the outside of that exactly?
I love both these guys but for me Levin takes this poll. Squires got chops for sure, but I'd still put him behind Levin,The Ox, and Wetton. Well maybe tied with Wetton, maybe...
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 22 2018 at 12:18
As Tom said above...both excellent players.....I prefer the classic Yes albums Squire was on over the KC period when Levin played ( I preferred the Wetton bass playing era)......but that's about musical direction and not bass playing.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 02:28
gentle bump!
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 04:04
Chris Squire
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 04:12
Yes to Chris Squire!
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 06:11
Chris Squire, I love his bass playing on The Album, CttE and not least Fragile
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 07:29
Chris by a tad and I admit a big part of that is because I have always been a big Yes fan.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 07:45
I like both, but it's hard to overlook the diversity of playing styles Tony can do. So, Tony gets my vote. I couldn't see Chris performing half the stuff Tony does.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 15:49
Both are very good, no vote
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 15:58
Levin is a better player technically, but not as good of a singer and songwriter as Squire. After all, it's Chris Squire who created Fish out of Water (one of my favorite albums of all time), not Tony Levin.
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Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 17:34
Tony Levin
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 23:17
Apples and Oranges. Chris Squire taste wise but I've seen Levin play live with Crimson and PG and he was great and I also love the Liquid Tension Experiment albums.
Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 17:15
love both and for me kind of an unfair choice....that said
tony > chris
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 17:57
Since I am sitting in the theater waiting for Beat to play, I voted for Tony. 😆
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 21:21
Here's a shot from tonight's show.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 23:47