Blind Guardian - prog metal?
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Topic: Blind Guardian - prog metal?
Posted By: Aaron
Subject: Blind Guardian - prog metal?
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 12:29
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Would you consider Blind Guardian's most recent
albums prog metal? i was originally going to say yes, but then, considering their live performances, i guess i would say no i guess it depends, there studio albums are prog to me anyways Aaron |
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 12:35
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I would say NO in ANY case...
I was listening to them some years ago when I didn't know what Prog could be (shame on me) and I was mainly listening to Metal and Classic Rock (Led Zep, Deep Purple and Uriah Heep)...I sold all their albums on eBay or gave them to my brother...
I consider them to be Heavy Metal not more...no prog...there are even people who don't consider Dream Theater as prog and I wonder why but it's the same for me with BG...no prog for me...
edit: and especially because their main formula for success are the bombastic refrains, there's no song without a refrain and all songs sound nearly the same, normal metal... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 17:15
Give me a break! I would say B.G. is a fusion of Power Metal and Symphonic Metal, which I'll argue all day is a subgenre of Progressive Metal! Standard or "normal" Heavy Metal artists would include Metallica, Megadeth, Rage, Monster Magnet etc. Don't sound like B.G. to me! ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
diddy wrote:
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 15 2004 at 13:47
Now YOU give ME a break, diddy! |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 15 2004 at 14:16
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Hmmm...Guys...I wasn't this accurate...with "normal Metal" I just meant that it is NO Prog for me, I meant all other metal sub-genres except prog metal, that's it, I don't want to argue wich band plays wich sub-genre...that's unnecessary...
BTW, did I hurt someone by saying that BG is not prog for me or why do you use this emoticon  ??? ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 04:44
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me? just because you said MM was normal metal.. and you used the emoticon too.. I was just joking For Blind Guardian.. I don't know their music.. I remember downloading a track and finding it boring. That's all |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 08:02
No, please look, I did't use the emoticon, I did't say that MM is normal metal, I don't even KNOW MM...It was semismart (who also quoted me)...Why do you think I said all this, I don't know MM or Therion, it wasn't me...
I'm totally confused now
 is this an error?------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 08:37
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I don't know why some people consider bands like therion and nightwish as progmetal in the first place.. -------------  
Reed's failed joke counter: ||||| R.I.P. You could have reached infinity.... |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 09:04
yes, that was an error, I should've taunted semismart (you pigdogs! whatever... |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 09:04
Olookatourfemaleleadsingerinherbigdress LOL! sounds familiar! |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 09:46
Now I really breathe a sigh of relief
 I don't know MM or Therion. I heard of Nightwish and Within Tamptation (My brother loves these "Olookatourfemaleleadsingerinherbigdress-Bands") But NEVER considered them to be prog...isn't this genre called Gothic Metal? No Idea!
I was listening to Blind Guardian, Manowar (yes, shame on me), My Dying Bride, Savatage (also often considered to be prog), Iron Maiden, Anathema and Opeth in my "Pre-Prog-Era" (amongst the whole Classic Rock Led Zep Uriah Hepp Stuff of course)...Opeth and some Savatage is all that survived the change...and Opeth is still one of my favorite bands... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 13:45
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Yes, Savatage is in the archives...
and, of course ManOwaR should be added soon! OTHER BANDS PLAY, MANOWAR KILL! |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 13:50
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You are right Joren!! let's turn it to derision! ------------- 
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 14:09
you won't believe it, I really HATE them now...I can't stand them anymore...yes some years ago I liked them, but I was young and had no Idea ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 22:33
Well as an fellow Ayreon fan I must respectfully disagree. There must be two Monster Magnets! The one I'm talking about is nothing but guitars(metal) and drums.
------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
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Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 22:40
Hey Partner, That was me Semismart, short for Semismartass. I used the emo symbol as strong disagreement! that doesn't mean I want to fight or anything. Everybody, is entitled to their own opinion. Ciao, OMM (Old Man Metal) ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 17 2004 at 05:54
 ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 17 2004 at 06:32
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Semismart, you should really check out Monster Magnet's self-titled debut EP. There's some great psychedelic rock on there. Mix between Hawkiwind and Black Sabbath I think! And, diddy, I have two albums by Manowar, I used to like them, especially their debut.. but I don't listen to metal very often now.. |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: May 17 2004 at 18:10
Thanks I'll do that. By the way, I am in awe of BG's fifteen minute song And Then There Was Silence. I Think BG sounds a lot like Queen on this and other songs. Anybody agree? ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
