To Keep From Crying
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Topic: To Keep From Crying
Posted By: Alitare
Subject: To Keep From Crying
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 12:34
| So I'm back after another mass, near-year long hiatus, spitting out more than 20 reviews I had saved in my 'vaults' today, and I must say that one of them was for the Comus sophomore effort 'To Keep From Crying', which I absolutely fawned over. Jeepers though, I was reading some of the reviews (including what apparently is in no way an unbiased biography. I didn't know opinions counted as dictated and intrinsic facts these days) and see that folks hate this album something fierce. I was just wondering why. Sure it's simpler, sure it's not got no ten minute epics, and sure it's got a more poppy sound, but the melodies are so darn fine, yes they is. So Long Supernova...Anybody else up in here listened to the album? If so, whaddaya think, holmes? |
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 13:03
What for there are countless question-marks in your reviews?  Only few examples: "Long Live Rock and Roll ? 1978 (4.2/5) 12 ?" "... the solo is ridiculous ? the guitar..." "Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow ? 1975 Best (4.3/5) 12 ? "
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 13:15
| I kind of like it. It's obviously not nearly as good as First Utterance, and that disappointment is reflected is the ratings. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 14:18
Welocme back Alitare, good to see you cathcing up on the reviews!
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 14:51
| The question marks are obnoxious, I know. It happens when I copy from Microsoft Word. I'm too lazy to weed them out. I've also realized that, though I have the capacity and ability to readily maintain my status as a 'prog reviewer', I don't have the will to write reviews that are not slanderous, vulgar, 'stream-of consciousness'-ridden, and all that derivative Mark Prindleesque shizz. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 14:52
Question marks indicate invalid characters, such as when one copies and pastes from Word. For example, if you type an ellipsis in Word, it converts it to a single character. This character is unreadable when published on the site, so it becomes a question mark. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
NotAProghead wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 15:05
I genuinely like it -- not nearly as much as First Utterance, nor as much as tracks Comus has released as bonus tracks, but I do like it. I agree with you. If First Utterance hadn't been so great then those that know To Keep From Crying would be kinder to it. Incidentally, Magma's Merci is another I think good which gets such a bad rap becuase it's seen as so much poorer than former releases (and because some never get past the first track), but had a band such as Asia released it, I think it would get higher ratings (at least amongst Zeuhl heads). |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 15:20
| I was shocked by some of the songs. I recently obtained the Songs to Comus compilation, and fell in love with it. One of my favorite collections. I think it's crazy-cool that Wooton and Co wrote songs that wouldn't seem far off an old Carole King album. Hey... Carole King for prog related! :P |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 15:35
Do these invalid symbols add any pleasure for reading?  ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 15:47
| Sure, they make every sentence an inquiry. Turns me into the rhetorical machination. Jethro Tull's Heavy Horses is his best in years? Led Zeppelin is terrible? It makes me seem less of an a****le. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 16:03
I heard a new Iron Maiden is in the works 
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 16:35
Visit a political forum sometime and you'll see it's true.  ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 17:05
I Like it to think its a damn fine album 
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 11:15
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Iron Maiden's working on a new album? Oh Christ! I'd rather Overkill release something. At least I never had any respect for Overkill. Let me guess, it'll be about horses with guns in space fighting Hitler, the songs will all be nine minutes long, Bruce will be mid-range yelping, the guitars will 'gallop' and it'll have a cover inspired by either a war, a comic book, or a monster. I've also realized that I have little tolerance for early 1960's jukebox rock (like the first few Stones/Beatles albums). England's Newest Hitmakers, my ass!
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 11:45
I haven't heard it recently, but I remember that I really enjoyed it and gave it a big thumbs up.  Too bad even the band members hate it. But artists are not always the best judges of their own work. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 16:24
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Average at best.
But then again, poppiness is never a way to win favor from me. Sure, it has some good stuff, but overall...average. And I suppose from a prog perspective not too great. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 20:02
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I remember it being pretty good, but it should be obvious why prog fans don't care for it especially after First Utterance. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 21:21
| Which is why I will never be a prog 'fan'. Man, if I didn't like simpler (technically) music, I'd never care for Cat Stevens' Father and Son, which is one of the few songs to ever make me cry. No prog song has done that to me. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 01:23
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For the question marks, you know there's such a thing as find/replace, right?
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 07:40
You're overtly critical of me, lately. I don't care enough about the presentation of my reviews to make any changes during transfer.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 07:59
I always present the exact amount of criticism that is necessary. If you don't care about the presentation of your reviews I am not sure why you are writing them. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 08:34
| That seems subjective. How can you objectively tell which criticism is 'necessary'? Do you have a magic machine? |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 08:48
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I can tell you without magic machine that presentation of your reviews is a complete disrespect to readers. If you don't understand that PA is not a garbage collector I hope admins will explain you this in better words. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 08:55
| And who is to say my reviews are 'garbage', question marks or not? |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 08:58
I am the metric by which all reality is measured. If you disagree, well, you probably aren't even real. Deal with it. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 09:03
That makes perfect sense in every plausible realm of thought. What created the universe, oh Metrician?
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 09:04
Perhaps they are great, but with these question marks they look like garbage. If you like it don't give up and keep on going this way. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 09:11
I did. It was a fan fiction project that got out of control. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 09:14
Does free will exist, or are we just predetermined cogs in the big ol' universal cuckoo clock?
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