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Topic: "Jazz Metal" bands
Posted By: NecronCommander
Subject: "Jazz Metal" bands
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:16
All these prog metal bands are noted for incorporating a heavy amount of jazz and/or jazz fusion elements into their distinctive style.  Which one is your favorite?

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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:19
Gah!

AAL/Cynic/Atheist/Meshuggah

Can't choose.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:21
I admittedly haven't heard all of them.  I like all the ones I have except for Cynic.

I'll go with Yakuza, just over Zu, Meshuggah, Intronaut, Special Defects, and AAL


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:24
Where's Blotted Science? Tongue We need such, uh, heavy post-bop bands in this poll.


Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:24

I must admit that the metal - jazz combination doesn't always work very well for me.
But luckily you didn't add Liquid Tension Experiment, those are really SickTongue

Yakuza and (earlier before they 'sang') Intronaut are the top for me.







Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:27
Oh wow, I didn't even include any Ron Jarzombek projects.  Failure on my part.

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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:28
Where's Death in this poll? Their later stuff is jazzy as hell. especially the Human/Individual Thought Patterns/Symbolic trilogy.

Hell I'd rank ITP as one of my favorite jazz albums ever. Chuck was writing stuff on par with guys like Herbie Hancock in my opinion.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:30
Anyway, Jonas Hellborg's Art Metal > all. 


Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:34
I was debating putting Art Metal up there but AFAIK that's his only really "heavy" release.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:34
Zu is prog metal?  Hmm, I wouldn't place them there.  

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:36
I guess Meshuggah from the list  (I'd add Counter-World Experience)




Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:36
The majority of Jonas Hellborg is not metal at all, though it's awesome stuff.

Gotta choose the masters - Cynic. Though this may be my favorite genre, love all of it.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:39
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Zu is prog metal?  Hmm, I wouldn't place them there.  


We have them under avant-metal on MMA.


Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:07
Planet X, Sherinian's solo albums, that sort of sruff ... Not a massive fan of the more extreme ones in Jazz terms, they don't seem to gel for me. I do have The Painter's Pallette, Traced In Air and Animals As Leaders ... Not bad :)

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:10
Meshuggah followed by Atheist.

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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:10
Dysrhythmia, Endl.Sproadic, Exivious, Behold The Arct. etc. the instru ones

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:12
Cynic!

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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:16
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Zu is prog metal?  Hmm, I wouldn't place them there.  


I'd say they're not really metal at all based on the vast majority of their work. I might be able to see it for the last album, but even then I'd say not.

ANYWAY, from the list I'd pick Cynic just over Meshuggah and Zu.


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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:46
Cynic of course, atheist a distant second though. 


Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:20
Zu by only the slightest margin over Shining.
 
Cynic and Athiest are great but seem more influenced by 70s jazz fusion than by the 60s jazz that I prefer.
 
I see that Yakuza is included here... After seeing them live I don't know thats what I would call them. Apart from having a sax in the band there really isn't anything jazzy about them. Structurally their music takes more from world music traditions than it does from jazz. While Jazz is incorperated into the music to some extent it seems to be more on a surface level than many of the other bands listed. However I have not heard their most recent work so maybe they are more jazz informed now? If so I might be inclined to buy a CD.


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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:21
EXIVIOUSSSSS

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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:39

Oh, also have you all heard of the band Alarum? They play a Jazz/Fusion-Metal style similar to Cynic or Athiest. Personally I think they are a great undiscovered jem in this style.



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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:40
this album is brain tilt/moshy jazz metal,
 


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:42
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

this album is brain tilt/moshy jazz metal,
 
 


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Posted By: Bantam19
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 22:29
Intronaut, slightly over Cynic.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 22:48

I don't see Zu as metal so I'm not going to vote for them.

Ephel Duath on the other hand...I will vote for.



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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 00:43
Finaly a poll not with PT or DTSmile Strictly from the list An Endless Sporadic for me, a young and very talented band, but are a lot more bands coming from this side of jazz metal, just check out Xtreme Measures from 2004 selftitled, just simply amazing or canadians Grey Matter - http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/grey_matter/long_distance_singer___/" rel="nofollow - Long Distance Singer...   - 2000 among others


Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 01:49
Wow, a poll with quite a number of bands of which I don't know  a singel one!


Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 01:56
Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

Wow, a poll with quite a number of bands of which I don't know  a singel one!


Better get some more tech metal then!


Posted By: anoblesoul
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 09:33
To-Mera, who was unlisted.


Posted By: Lima96
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 11:19
How about 7 for 4? Those germans are excellent!


Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 11:40
Originally posted by Lima96 Lima96 wrote:

How about 7 for 4? Those germans are excellent!
 
^^^My fav with Blotted Science and Canvas Solaris. From the list Exivious and Aghora.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 17:08
Intronaut, just ahead of Cynic and Yakuza.

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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 21:58
Definitely felt conflicted between Cynic and Atheist, but decided on Cynic because the new Atheist album was a regression to their older thrash based sound. 

Cynic's Traced in Air was incredible.

If Atheist had released an album that was better and even latin-jazzier than Elements... man. I'd be one happy dude.


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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 13:26
Swinging on the ride cymbal during slow parts and adding fusion w**kery to songs once in a while won't make a metal band a jazz metal band. I doubt more than a handful true examples of the subgenre even exist.


Of those in the list, Fredrik's SD, Shining, and Zu are the only ones I'd consider jazz metal.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 16:29
Originally posted by anoblesoul anoblesoul wrote:

To-Mera, who was unlisted.

They would have got my vote as well.


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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 13:11
Naked City could have been a very good additional choice Thumbs Up




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