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Topic: Moody Blues or ELP
Posted By: Misomex777
Subject: Moody Blues or ELP
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 16:15
Which do you prefer?Star



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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 17:16
Emerson Lake & Palmer.
 
By the way, why didn´t you extend this shortcut in one case leastways?


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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:26
Neither are among my favorite bands, but I slightly prefer the Moody Blues.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 18:27
Neither are even remotely close to my favorite bands, but I choose ELP. 

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 19:18
ELP for me.  Although I do have all of the Moodies first era except for the debut.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 19:25
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Neither are even remotely close to my favorite bands, but I choose ELP. 


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 19:47
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Neither are among my favorite bands, but I slightly prefer the Moody Blues.

I was going to say that.


Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 19:56
I guess it depends:
 
Do you prefer somnolent bordering on narcoleptic music, with hippy-dippy lyrics?
 
Or do you prefer aggressive, bombastic music, with hippy-dippy lyrics?
 
I vote for the latter, any time, except when I want to chill.
 
 


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Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 20:08
I love ELP!

Just listen to Tarkus and you'll see that it tops anything ever produced by The Moody Blues... If you add to that the entire Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery albums, the choice is obvious (at least for me)....

I would like to add that The Moody Blues is a great band...

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 20:51
The Moody Blues, particularly their remarkable output from '67 to  '72.

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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 21:27
ELP, on the strength of Tarkus and Trilogy.


Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 22:17
The Moodies.  Though I never really listen to either band anymore I must say they are much better.  I used to absolutely LOVE ELP's S/T and Pictures, and still do, however the Moody Blue's have WAY more good albums as well as more feel.  Sometimes ELP was too showy and emotionally lacking for my tastes and I only like those two albums, plus the SONG Tarkus.  Whereas ELP has Days of Future Passed, In Search of the Lost Chord, Seventh Sojourn,  On the Threshold, To Our Children's Children, Every Good Boy Deserves Favor, and others, as well as the John Lodge and Ray Thomas collaboration Blue Jay.  

Just listen to Seventh Sojourn or In Search of the Lost Chord and you'll see that it tops everything ELP ever released.  


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Posted By: MoodyRush
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 22:29
if I could vote... you can tell my choice from my username! Wink

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 23:25
EP&P, Tarkus and Trilogy are all 5 star albums for me. Brian Salad Surgery starts the descent into self indulgence so one star taken off for me.
On the other hand the early Moody Blues albums are a mixture of syrupy 60's pop with a bit of psychedelic pop thrown in for good measure. I like Days of Future Passed but the full orchestra makes it a bit like listening to Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf. The Moody's best album for me is Seventh Sojourn but it's not in the same class as any of the first four ELP recordings.  


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 00:20
ELP

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 01:43
ELP are my favourite band.
 
The only Moody Blues album I own is Question and I never manage to get very far past the opening track. I used to have Days Of Future Passed which is a very important seminal work but not nowadays a favourite of mine.
btw Justin Hayward is from my home town of Swindon along with Rick Davies of Supertramp and the new wave band XTC. Just thought I would throw that in!


Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 01:46
Two bands I think are OK, but not very high on my lists of favourites. ELP by a thin margin. Must however credit the Moody Blues to be among the first few prog recordings I discovered (in search of the lost chord).

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Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 06:26
LOLThe only obvious reason I can think of that someone would ask for their preference between these 2 band's is the entirely completely disticntive styles between them.One is usually very hard-core, complex and classically oriented while the other is soft,simple and folksong like oriented.Most of The Moody Blues fame rests on it's ground-breaking Days of Future Past coming out in 1967 which clearly was far superior to Emerson's 1st album of that same year,The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack.Otherwise,I think a person would be hard-pressed to find any other band in history that could stand up to album's like Tarkus,Trilogy,Brain Salad Surgery,etc.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 06:39
The moody blues!They are less technical.

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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 06:55
Like em both but it has to be ELP for me...

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 06:58
I suppose everyone knows that ELP are one of my favourite bands by now. Were my very favourite in the seventies.

I love the Moodies too. But not as much. Nowhere near as much actually.


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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 07:39
What a strange poll, these two bands are so much different, love both but the moodies did more good albums IMO, anyway i would never think comparing Emerson and Mike Pinder Confused


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 07:41
I'm going to vote for ELP. They are more varied, more fun and in the last couple of years I've really warmed to them, and listen to them a lot more than the Moody Blues.

I much prefer Justin Hayward as a singer to Greg Lake though. To our childrens, childrens, children is my fave MB album, and probably the only one I consider as good as my top ELP choice which would be Trilogy.

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Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 08:32
SleepyIf that's your reason,I think you'd be more comfortable listening to country/western than to prog.Progressive:(definition)-advocating progress,as in technology(2)progressing;advancing;improving.
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

The moody blues!They are less technical.


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 09:12
I love the Moodies....  but  I love ELP  much more

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 10:37
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP are my favourite band.
 
The only Moody Blues album I own is Question and I never manage to get very far past the opening track. I used to have Days Of Future Passed which is a very important seminal work but not nowadays a favourite of mine.
btw Justin Hayward is from my home town of Swindon along with Rick Davies of Supertramp and the new wave band XTC. Just thought I would throw that in!
 
I know what you mean about Question of Balance - brilliant opening track then it goes into this silly one that I forget the name of and it's all downhill from there.
 
Days of Future Passed and In Search of the Lost Chord are both excellent, but overall I prefer ELP.


Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 11:29
Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

LOLThe only obvious reason I can think of that someone would ask for their preference between these 2 band's is the entirely completely disticntive styles between them.One is usually very hard-core, complex and classically oriented while the other is soft,simple and folksong like oriented.Most of The Moody Blues fame rests on it's ground-breaking Days of Future Past coming out in 1967 which clearly was far superior to Emerson's 1st album of that same year,The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack.Otherwise,I think a person would be hard-pressed to find any other band in history that could stand up to album's like Tarkus,Trilogy,Brain Salad Surgery,etc.
 
Angry (Just kidding! Wink)
 
 
Well I'm obviously going to disagree with your assessment of The Moody Blues' music... ''soft, simple and folksong''? I would say that The Moodies' fame rests not on DOFP alone, but on the series of the core seven albums they released between 1967-72. The Moodies were a major influence on King Crimson, Mike Pinder revolutionised the Mellotron (its technology and its techniques), Ray Thomas likewise was a pathfinder for the flute in rock music. The Moodies also took the concept of the concept album to new heights. But enough already.
 
Now, are you saying that traditional music is in some way inferior to classical music. Interesting. That would be a good subject for a thread of its own. What about Western Art music that is based on traditional folk music? Tchaikovsky, Smetena, Sibelius, Grieg, Dvorak, Bartok (one of Emerson's favourites) among others all made use of traditional music.     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 11:40
Originally posted by MoodyRush MoodyRush wrote:

 *snip*  you can tell my choice from my username! Wink
 
Ditto, although Pictures At An Exhibition was actually the first prog album I bought with my own money as a spotty teen. Still remember venturing into the big smoke (well, Glasgow city centre) to get it and BJH's Early Morning Onwards for the cost of one full-price album. Happy days! Before that it was T.Rex for me... and I always wanted corkscrew hair. Never did get that chopper either. UnhappyTongue   


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 11:45
^^^ Honorable mention for the Seventh Sojourn album. I think it's their second best after 'To our childrens...'

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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 11:50
Yes, I'm torn between those two myself. Thumbs Up


Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 13:10
WinkOf course I own the 7 core albums of The Moodies.I just listened to Seventh Sojourn about an hour ago,great album.I also own their 1st for it's historical importance and Long Diostance Voyager,a good comeback album.I am thinking of checking out Octave because Moraz being on it.I'll tell you what I think might make another great thread:just how incredibly many bands have a core of 7 studio albums.
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

LOLThe only obvious reason I can think of that someone would ask for their preference between these 2 band's is the entirely completely disticntive styles between them.One is usually very hard-core, complex and classically oriented while the other is soft,simple and folksong like oriented.Most of The Moody Blues fame rests on it's ground-breaking Days of Future Past coming out in 1967 which clearly was far superior to Emerson's 1st album of that same year,The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack.Otherwise,I think a person would be hard-pressed to find any other band in history that could stand up to album's like Tarkus,Trilogy,Brain Salad Surgery,etc.
 
Angry (Just kidding! Wink)
 
 
Well I'm obviously going to disagree with your assessment of The Moody Blues' music... ''soft, simple and folksong''? I would say that The Moodies' fame rests not on DOFP alone, but on the series of the core seven albums they released between 1967-72. The Moodies were a major influence on King Crimson, Mike Pinder revolutionised the Mellotron (its technology and its techniques), Ray Thomas likewise was a pathfinder for the flute in rock music. The Moodies also took the concept of the concept album to new heights. But enough already.
 
Now, are you saying that traditional music is in some way inferior to classical music. Interesting. That would be a good subject for a thread of its own. What about Western Art music that is based on traditional folk music? Tchaikovsky, Smetena, Sibelius, Grieg, Dvorak, Bartok (one of Emerson's favourites) among others all made use of traditional music.     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 13:12
^Patrick Moraz isn't on Octave.

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Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 13:18
ApproveThanx.
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Patrick Moraz isn't on Octave.


Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 14:01
ShockedI guess I can" try" to understand if you think ELP are too showy(virtuoso)for your own personal tastes,but lacking emotion???Now I've heard everything! Which of their albums fails to take you through the entire gamut of human emotions to the utter most extreme?
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

The Moodies.  Though I never really listen to either band anymore I must say they are much better.  I used to absolutely LOVE ELP's S/T and Pictures, and still do, however the Moody Blue's have WAY more good albums as well as more feel.  Sometimes ELP was too showy and emotionally lacking for my tastes and I only like those two albums, plus the SONG Tarkus.  Whereas ELP has Days of Future Passed, In Search of the Lost Chord, Seventh Sojourn,  On the Threshold, To Our Children's Children, Every Good Boy Deserves Favor, and others, as well as the John Lodge and Ray Thomas collaboration Blue Jay.  

Just listen to Seventh Sojourn or In Search of the Lost Chord and you'll see that it tops everything ELP ever released.  


Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 14:18
Mmmmm, it's hard. I really like both bands, but I choose MB.

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Posted By: LateralMe
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 14:25
I like both of them, but im gonna have to vote ELP.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 14:34
Hi,
 
It's not a hard choice.
 
Moody Blues ... because ELP, by the time they hit the road, already were representing a part of the rock music world that became ugly, and was about the excesses and the abuses, rather than the music itself.
 
Granted, it was the time for abuses, excesses, drugs and what not ... but I'm not sure that it was necessary all around, and while a few of the pieces by ELP are very nice and meaningful, in the end, with the exception of a piece or two in each album, some of the stuff was not as enjoyable or as good for me. And in this sense, I thought that the Moody Blues were a bit more serious about their music and work, albeit I would agree that they tried to get "poetically cute" to get more attention ... but their first album is, in many ways, a much more important listen when it comes to the histroy of rock music ... because it really showed that young folks that played rock music could do some very nice and important things that were far more than just a radio song!
 
ELP, and I like and have the first several albums, is very nice ... and the "violence" they tend to do some things is very clear and a valid point and attitude in music and its expression ... however, after one kill ... it's a game?


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 14:41
No it isn't a game. It's a band making music. Some may like it some may not. It was never a game.

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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 14:45
Close call, neither are my favorites, but I really enjoy both. Funny thing is, I haven't been listening for any of these bands for like 6 months, and then I put on an album by both of them yesterday. After my recent experience, I'll say Moody Blues, but it could be ELP tomorrow.


Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 15:07
ConfusedWe don't listen to ELP 40 years later because Emerson stabbed his organ with knives,or he spun around on a grand piano while playing from a death-defying distance at the top of a coliseum,we listen to it today for it's music only which has stood the test of time very well.Sure ELP knew that it would unfortunately take more than their serious music to make it to the top of the Rock heap,but on their 1977 tour they went bankrupt ,lost their own record company,Manticore,and everything trying to take a full hand-picked orchestra on the road with them for their music's sake.Very few bands have taken their music more seriously,Emerson composing a serious Piano Concerto,which included using a 12-tone tone row in part of the composition because he wanted his composition to be taken seriously by classical composers as well and atonal music was still the style for classical composers at the time and almost a prerequisite back then.
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
It's not a hard choice.
 
Moody Blues ... because ELP, by the time they hit the road, already were representing a part of the rock music world that became ugly, and was about the excesses and the abuses, rather than the music itself.
 
Granted, it was the time for abuses, excesses, drugs and what not ... but I'm not sure that it was necessary all around, and while a few of the pieces by ELP are very nice and meaningful, in the end, with the exception of a piece or two in each album, some of the stuff was not as enjoyable or as good for me. And in this sense, I thought that the Moody Blues were a bit more serious about their music and work, albeit I would agree that they tried to get "poetically cute" to get more attention ... but their first album is, in many ways, a much more important listen when it comes to the histroy of rock music ... because it really showed that young folks that played rock music could do some very nice and important things that were far more than just a radio song!
 
ELP, and I like and have the first several albums, is very nice ... and the "violence" they tend to do some things is very clear and a valid point and attitude in music and its expression ... however, after one kill ... it's a game?


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 16:14
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No it isn't a game. It's a band making music. Some may like it some may not. It was never a game.
 
I would like to suggest that you are mis-reading the wording.
 
I always thought that ELP was very good ... no question there ... but with the fun songs and what not -- with which they got a lot more radio attention, than otherwise ... it took a certain amount of the beauty and the seriousness of the work ... at the end of the day ... it was all just a fun radio song and who cares about serious stuff or better music ...
 
The "violence" and the way I used the words was relative to their ... out front ... style, which is ok ... and even the lyrics, which are often quite strong ... "don't tell me lies!" (punch, punch,accent -- how much more affirmative can that be? in music? )  ... kinda of thing ... it was not meant as the typical hollywood screamer 3 or 4 or 39 that everyone thinks is so cool. There is a place in music for that expression as there is in art and such ... and I would never suggest otherwise ... and you should know/understand that about me by now!
 
For me, music is life. Life is music ... so "a band making music" ... has no meaning whatsoever, btw ... it's all an art form related to our expressions ... and I do not think that music, is any different than anything else. Your words and work and reviews is no different in totality for me, than a "band" making music! ... you are making music of the work you love!
 
Quite different way of seeing things than .... you are used to, I'm sure!


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Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 17:58
ConfusedI get the feeling that I'm supposed to take a stab at answering this one.O.K.,but there's going to be a small price to pay for this seemingly unsurmountable task.When I 1st read this I thought this makes no sense at all.But after I read it a 2nd time,I think it started to actually make some sense(.More likely I'm losing it).ELP didn't have many radio hits.Back then,even though the market was becoming album oriented,every band still wanted a radio hit to help sell the album and to become more widely known to a larger audience.Emerson's idea for their 1st hit was Knife-Edge to show people the complexity of their music.The song has absolutely no AM radio potential,so Lake put in his song that he wrote when he was 12,Lucky Man,behind Emerson's back.Having obvious commercial appeal,it did chart,but even though it eventually became a famous "anthem" of theirs,it charted at a very low position at the time.The next 2 albums were concept albums(Tarkus,Pictures)and there were no possible "hits",but they did start to play a few "fun" songs that you were complaining about(i.e. Jeremy Bender,Are You Ready Eddy,Nutrocker).On their next album,Trilogy,they finally got a solid Top 40 hit with From the Beginning,but it was a very serious artistic song,and the only "fun" song was The Sheriff.On Brain Salad,it was Benny The Bouncer.Then in England,they would later have 2 big hit songs in Father Christmas and Fanfare.So out of 9 albums,they had only 4 hit songs and 5 "fun" songs,hardly enough to get much radio play that you are claiming or enough to sacrifice any of the beauty of their music.(Moodies had 7 core studio albums,as did ELP,King Crimson,Renaissance,Rush,Deep Purple,and many others.Yes(8),Genesis(6).
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No it isn't a game. It's a band making music. Some may like it some may not. It was never a game.
 
I would like to suggest that you are mis-reading the wording.
 
I always thought that ELP was very good ... no question there ... but with the fun songs and what not -- with which they got a lot more radio attention, than otherwise ... it took a certain amount of the beauty and the seriousness of the work ... at the end of the day ... it was all just a fun radio song and who cares about serious stuff or better music ...
 
The "violence" and the way I used the words was relative to their ... out front ... style, which is ok ... and even the lyrics, which are often quite strong ... "don't tell me lies!" (punch, punch,accent -- how much more affirmative can that be? in music? )  ... kinda of thing ... it was not meant as the typical hollywood screamer 3 or 4 or 39 that everyone thinks is so cool. There is a place in music for that expression as there is in art and such ... and I would never suggest otherwise ... and you should know/understand that about me by now!
 
For me, music is life. Life is music ... so "a band making music" ... has no meaning whatsoever, btw ... it's all an art form related to our expressions ... and I do not think that music, is any different than anything else. Your words and work and reviews is no different in totality for me, than a "band" making music! ... you are making music of the work you love!
 
Quite different way of seeing things than .... you are used to, I'm sure!


Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 18:35
I love ELP, but The Moodies mean a lot more to me, emotionally. I spent more time listening to their first five albums (not counting the pre-Hayward/Lodge album) than to the entire discography of the rest of the early progressive bands together.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 18:37
happy to read such about the Moody blues, i tried a poll about  them a few weeks ago but it didn't get so many answers, I know what to do next time , moody blues versus Motorhead LOLBeer


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 18:54
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

I love ELP, but The Moodies mean a lot more to me, emotionally. I spent more time listening to their first five albums (not counting the pre-Hayward/Lodge album) than to the entire discography of the rest of the early progressive bands together.
                                             for me the first seven albums from days of future to seven sojourn, but it needs several listenings ,it's the way it worked for me at the time,


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 18:59
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Angry (Just kidding! Wink)
 
 
I would say that The Moodies' fame rests not on DOFP alone, but on the series of the core seven albums they released between 1967-72. The Moodies were a major influence on King Crimson, Mike Pinder revolutionised the Mellotron (its technology and its techniques), Ray Thomas likewise was a pathfinder for the flute in rock music. The Moodies also took the concept of the concept album to new heights. But enough already.
 
     
 
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Sorry but can't see the connection between the Moodies and King Crimson other than both bands feature Mellotron. Did Fripp ever claim that the Moodies were a major influence on King Crimson's music?


Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 19:02
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

happy to read such about the Moody blues, i tried a poll about  them a few weeks ago but it didn't get so many answers, I know what to do next time , moody blues versus Motorhead LOLBeer


LOL Don't count on it.

Seriously, I was in my early teens when the first Moody Blues albums came out and to me they were pure magic. They had a formidable impact on the direction my musical interest headed afterwards. I don't think I would've gone on to listen to ELP (or any of the other prog greats) at all if it weren't for The Moodies ploughing the way.


Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 00:58
ELP much more.


Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 02:33
Moody Blues here. I love the vocals. I can find several songs on nearly every album that wow me. ELP, though I love the keys they don't give me the
"FEELING" the Moodies give.


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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 02:42
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

 

Sorry but can't see the connection between the Moodies and King Crimson other than both bands feature Mellotron. Did Fripp ever claim that the Moodies were a major influence on King Crimson's music?
 
 


Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 02:54
Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

ConfusedWe don't listen to ELP 40 years later because Emerson stabbed his organ with knives,or he spun around on a grand piano while playing from a death-defying distance at the top of a coliseum,we listen to it today for it's music only which has stood the test of time very well.Sure ELP knew that it would unfortunately take more than their serious music to make it to the top of the Rock heap,but on their 1977 tour they went bankrupt ,lost their own record company,Manticore,and everything trying to take a full hand-picked orchestra on the road with them for their music's sake.Very few bands have taken their music more seriously,Emerson composing a serious Piano Concerto,which included using a 12-tone tone row in part of the composition because he wanted his composition to be taken seriously by classical composers as well and atonal music was still the style for classical composers at the time and almost a prerequisite back then.
Originally posted by moshkito
<DIV>Rick Wakeman put out an album (strictly piano) It is called Country Airs. I thought it was very nice, nothing fancy, just pretty piano. I personally asked Rick about this album, you know his reply? (refering to your Emerson going classical) I needed the money. (Yes, my brother and I had about a 20 minute 2 on 1 with Mr. Wakeman.</DIV>
<DIV> moshkito
Rick Wakeman put out an album (strictly piano) It is called Country Airs. I thought it was very nice, nothing fancy, just pretty piano. I personally asked Rick about this album, you know his reply? (refering to your Emerson going classical) I needed the money. (Yes, my brother and I had about a 20 minute 2 on 1 with Mr. Wakeman.
wrote:

Hi,
 
It's not a hard choice.
 
Moody Blues ... because ELP, by the time they hit the road, already were representing a part of the rock music world that became ugly, and was about the excesses and the abuses, rather than the music itself.
 
Granted, it was the time for abuses, excesses, drugs and what not ... but I'm not sure that it was necessary all around, and while a few of the pieces by ELP are very nice and meaningful, in the end, with the exception of a piece or two in each album, some of the stuff was not as enjoyable or as good for me. And in this sense, I thought that the Moody Blues were a bit more serious about their music and work, albeit I would agree that they tried to get "poetically cute" to get more attention ... but their first album is, in many ways, a much more important listen when it comes to the histroy of rock music ... because it really showed that young folks that played rock music could do some very nice and important things that were far more than just a radio song!
 
ELP, and I like and have the first several albums, is very nice ... and the "violence" they tend to do some things is very clear and a valid point and attitude in music and its expression ... however, after one kill ... it's a game?


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Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 03:14
Originally posted by Steven Brodziak Steven Brodziak wrote:

Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

ConfusedWe don't listen to ELP 40 years later because Emerson stabbed his organ with knives,or he spun around on a grand piano while playing from a death-defying distance at the top of a coliseum,we listen to it today for it's music only which has stood the test of time very well.Sure ELP knew that it would unfortunately take more than their serious music to make it to the top of the Rock heap,but on their 1977 tour they went bankrupt ,lost their own record company,Manticore,and everything trying to take a full hand-picked orchestra on the road with them for their music's sake.Very few bands have taken their music more seriously,Emerson composing a serious Piano Concerto,which included using a 12-tone tone row in part of the composition because he wanted his composition to be taken seriously by classical composers as well and atonal music was still the style for classical composers at the time and almost a prerequisite back then.
Originally posted by moshkito 
<DIV>Rick Wakeman put out an album (strictly piano) It is called Country Airs. I thought it was very nice, nothing fancy, just pretty piano. I personally asked Rick about this album, you know his reply? (refering to your Emerson going classical) I needed the money. (Yes, my brother and I had about a 20 minute 2 on 1 with Mr. Wakeman.<img src=http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif height=17 width=17 border=0 alt=Unhappy title=Unhappy />You were most fortunate to have this conversation and Wakeman be so candid with you.Thanks for sharing this story with me sincerely.</DIV>
<DIV> moshkito
Rick Wakeman put out an album (strictly piano) It is called Country Airs. I thought it was very nice, nothing fancy, just pretty piano. I personally asked Rick about this album, you know his reply? (refering to your Emerson going classical) I needed the money. (Yes, my brother and I had about a 20 minute 2 on 1 with Mr. Wakeman.UnhappyYou were most fortunate to have this conversation and Wakeman be so candid with you.Thanks for sharing this story with me sincerely.
wrote:

Hi,
 
It's not a hard choice.
 
Moody Blues ... because ELP, by the time they hit the road, already were representing a part of the rock music world that became ugly, and was about the excesses and the abuses, rather than the music itself.
 
Granted, it was the time for abuses, excesses, drugs and what not ... but I'm not sure that it was necessary all around, and while a few of the pieces by ELP are very nice and meaningful, in the end, with the exception of a piece or two in each album, some of the stuff was not as enjoyable or as good for me. And in this sense, I thought that the Moody Blues were a bit more serious about their music and work, albeit I would agree that they tried to get "poetically cute" to get more attention ... but their first album is, in many ways, a much more important listen when it comes to the histroy of rock music ... because it really showed that young folks that played rock music could do some very nice and important things that were far more than just a radio song!
 
ELP, and I like and have the first several albums, is very nice ... and the "violence" they tend to do some things is very clear and a valid point and attitude in music and its expression ... however, after one kill ... it's a game?


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 03:57
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

Originally posted by MoodyRush MoodyRush wrote:

 *snip*  you can tell my choice from my username! Wink
 
Ditto, although Pictures At An Exhibition was actually the first prog album I bought with my own money as a spotty teen. Still remember venturing into the big smoke (well, Glasgow city centre) to get it and BJH's Early Morning Onwards for the cost of one full-price album. Happy days! Before that it was T.Rex for me... and I always wanted corkscrew hair. Never did get that chopper either. UnhappyTongue   
 
oddly that was the same for me. Back in 1976 Pictures cost Ł2 as a 'budget album' so was all I could afford. Then I played it and wondered 'what the f**k is this??'. Anyway I did eventually get Tarkus ,Trilogy etc which are much better.
 
 
 


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 04:04
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No it isn't a game. It's a band making music. Some may like it some may not. It was never a game.
 
I would like to suggest that you are mis-reading the wording.
 
I always thought that ELP was very good ... no question there ... but with the fun songs and what not -- with which they got a lot more radio attention, than otherwise ... it took a certain amount of the beauty and the seriousness of the work ... at the end of the day ... it was all just a fun radio song and who cares about serious stuff or better music ...
 
The "violence" and the way I used the words was relative to their ... out front ... style, which is ok ... and even the lyrics, which are often quite strong ... "don't tell me lies!" (punch, punch,accent -- how much more affirmative can that be? in music? )  ... kinda of thing ... it was not meant as the typical hollywood screamer 3 or 4 or 39 that everyone thinks is so cool. There is a place in music for that expression as there is in art and such ... and I would never suggest otherwise ... and you should know/understand that about me by now!
 
For me, music is life. Life is music ... so "a band making music" ... has no meaning whatsoever, btw ... it's all an art form related to our expressions ... and I do not think that music, is any different than anything else. Your words and work and reviews is no different in totality for me, than a "band" making music! ... you are making music of the work you love!
 
Quite different way of seeing things than .... you are used to, I'm sure!

I disagree with the first paragraph and the rest I don't get.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 04:07
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
It's not a hard choice.
 
Moody Blues ... because ELP, by the time they hit the road, already were representing a part of the rock music world that became ugly, and was about the excesses and the abuses, rather than the music itself.
 
Granted, it was the time for abuses, excesses, drugs and what not ... but I'm not sure that it was necessary all around, and while a few of the pieces by ELP are very nice and meaningful, in the end, with the exception of a piece or two in each album, some of the stuff was not as enjoyable or as good for me. And in this sense, I thought that the Moody Blues were a bit more serious about their music and work, albeit I would agree that they tried to get "poetically cute" to get more attention ... but their first album is, in many ways, a much more important listen when it comes to the histroy of rock music ... because it really showed that young folks that played rock music could do some very nice and important things that were far more than just a radio song!
 
ELP, and I like and have the first several albums, is very nice ... and the "violence" they tend to do some things is very clear and a valid point and attitude in music and its expression ... however, after one kill ... it's a game?
 
ELP always had a much more rock n roll atittude than other prog bands. They enjoyed all the trappings of being rock stars. Then they settled down, Emerson developed a bad drug habit that he had to shake and they became very boring post 1977.
Prog is not all about serious studied college geek types reinventing classical music. It can be good fun. ELP were fun and at their best were probably the best live band in the world (1974 especially). The 'fun songs' you refer to were just shorter tracks. They could never be that serious all the time. For someone who seems very forgiving of many bands little quirks and personality traites you are actually very hard on ELP's.It was all part of what they were. Yin and yang and all that.


Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 04:20
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No it isn't a game. It's a band making music. Some may like it some may not. It was never a game.
 
I would like to suggest that you are mis-reading the wording.
 
I always thought that ELP was very good ... no question there ... but with the fun songs and what not -- with which they got a lot more radio attention, than otherwise ... it took a certain amount of the beauty and the seriousness of the work ... at the end of the day ... it was all just a fun radio song and who cares about serious stuff or better music ...
 
The "violence" and the way I used the words was relative to their ... out front ... style, which is ok ... and even the lyrics, which are often quite strong ... "don't tell me lies!" (punch, punch,accent -- how much more affirmative can that be? in music? )  ... kinda of thing ... it was not meant as the typical hollywood screamer 3 or 4 or 39 that everyone thinks is so cool. There is a place in music for that expression as there is in art and such ... and I would never suggest otherwise ... and you should know/understand that about me by now!
 
For me, music is life. Life is music ... so "a band making music" ... has no meaning whatsoever, btw ... it's all an art form related to our expressions ... and I do not think that music, is any different than anything else. Your words and work and reviews is no different in totality for me, than a "band" making music! ... you are making music of the work you love!
 
Quite different way of seeing things than .... you are used to, I'm sure!

I disagree with the first paragraph and the rest I don't get.
 
I really haven't a scooby either, but what I take out of it is that for the forty or so minutes I'm listening to Seventh Sojourn... I am Mike Pinder. Big smile
 
And yes, I don't half talk a load of old cobblers sometimes!


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 04:28
^Funnily Seventh Sojurn is my least favourite of the Moodies albums up to their forst break up. (not including the debut) I(t alweays eemed more of a normal rock album to me rather than anything extraordinary. Must give it another spin.

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 04:38
ELP quite comfortably.  


Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 07:05
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

 

Sorry but can't see the connection between the Moodies and King Crimson other than both bands feature Mellotron. Did Fripp ever claim that the Moodies were a major influence on King Crimson's music?
 
 


Thanks for posting that interview. Thumbs Up

To me, the Moody Blues influence was obvious when I first heard In the Court. It was actually the reason why I liked it so much.


Posted By: rematpac
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 07:26
Originally posted by Steven Brodziak Steven Brodziak wrote:

Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

ConfusedWe don't listen to ELP 40 years later because Emerson stabbed his organ with knives,or he spun around on a grand piano while playing from a death-defying distance at the top of a coliseum,we listen to it today for it's music only which has stood the test of time very well.Sure ELP knew that it would unfortunately take more than their serious music to make it to the top of the Rock heap,but on their 1977 tour they went bankrupt ,lost their own record company,Manticore,and everything trying to take a full hand-picked orchestra on the road with them for their music's sake.Very few bands have taken their music more seriously,Emerson composing a serious Piano Concerto,which included using a 12-tone tone row in part of the composition because he wanted his composition to be taken seriously by classical composers as well and atonal music was still the style for classical composers at the time and almost a prerequisite back then.
Originally posted by moshkito 
<DIV>Rick Wakeman put out an album (strictly piano) It is called Country Airs. I thought it was very nice, nothing fancy, just pretty piano. I personally asked Rick about this album, you know his reply? (refering to your Emerson going classical) I needed the money. (Yes, my brother and I had about a 20 minute 2 on 1 with Mr. Wakeman<img src=http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif height=17 width=17 border=0 alt=Smile title=Smile />Wakeman is just not the same as Emerson,other than they both had problems with alcohol for a time.Wakeman has put out about 100 solo cd's.But when you go to any cd shop,what do you find in the Wakeman section,maybe a Wakeman's greatest hits cd and his 1st 2 solo albums at most.Most all of those solo albums remained obscure and unknown and most have been out-of-print for a long time.Wakeman plays a much more pop style than Emerson,much of it he considered New Age,which Emerson won't touch.Every band or artist has a dominant creative period that usually lasts from 5 to 7 years where they put out their best work.Emerson's was a little longer starting with the Ars Longa album and ending with his Piano Concerto on Works vol.1(1968-1977) .On his 1977 Pirates Tour ,he took the orch. on the road with him stating that people should be able to hear the same music they hear on the album.The orch. was exclusively for the benefit of the music and paying their saleries is what bankrupted him,never to fully recover.He could have toured without the orch. and made a profit,but he was a musical idealist.Audiences got to hear works like Pictures at an Exhibition with a full orchestra making some of the music so full,rich,and emotional,it could put tingles up your spine witnessed by the recording of it on Works Live(1st released as the album ELP Live in 1979),a far cry from the 1st Pictures album recorded in 1970 using crude synthesizers that had just barely been invented.After Works vol.1,they could not afford to go back into the studio and record vol.2.There was no studio ,as they had lost everything from the financial debacle of the Pirates Tour and instead released an album using old already recorded reject tracks that weren't good enough to make it on any of their previous albums(Father Christmas the 1 exception).Then to further help pay for the debt. they had incurred,they made a contractual album with their former record company Atlantic,Love Beach,an album all 3 members confessed to hating.After disbanding Emerson went on to a successful career writing movie scores,the 1st being the movie track to Inferno and the 2nd being the highly sucessful movie Nighthawks among others.Then in 1992,Emerson decided to enlist the aid of his former band members on the movie soundtrack he was writing for,but instead they produced the comeback album Black Moon and a highly successful world tour followed.After this Emerson developed nerve damage in his right hand and has been unable to play up to his par since,but has yet continued a successful solo carreer and also periodically reunited with his former band and even recorded a triple cd set with The Nice.So you see ,Emerson and ELP are 1st rate phenominal musicians,not showy entertainers.</DIV>
<DIV> moshkito
Rick Wakeman put out an album (strictly piano) It is called Country Airs. I thought it was very nice, nothing fancy, just pretty piano. I personally asked Rick about this album, you know his reply? (refering to your Emerson going classical) I needed the money. (Yes, my brother and I had about a 20 minute 2 on 1 with Mr. WakemanSmileWakeman is just not the same as Emerson,other than they both had problems with alcohol for a time.Wakeman has put out about 100 solo cd's.But when you go to any cd shop,what do you find in the Wakeman section,maybe a Wakeman's greatest hits cd and his 1st 2 solo albums at most.Most all of those solo albums remained obscure and unknown and most have been out-of-print for a long time.Wakeman plays a much more pop style than Emerson,much of it he considered New Age,which Emerson won't touch.Every band or artist has a dominant creative period that usually lasts from 5 to 7 years where they put out their best work.Emerson's was a little longer starting with the Ars Longa album and ending with his Piano Concerto on Works vol.1(1968-1977) .On his 1977 Pirates Tour ,he took the orch. on the road with him stating that people should be able to hear the same music they hear on the album.The orch. was exclusively for the benefit of the music and paying their saleries is what bankrupted him,never to fully recover.He could have toured without the orch. and made a profit,but he was a musical idealist.Audiences got to hear works like Pictures at an Exhibition with a full orchestra making some of the music so full,rich,and emotional,it could put tingles up your spine witnessed by the recording of it on Works Live(1st released as the album ELP Live in 1979),a far cry from the 1st Pictures album recorded in 1970 using crude synthesizers that had just barely been invented.After Works vol.1,they could not afford to go back into the studio and record vol.2.There was no studio ,as they had lost everything from the financial debacle of the Pirates Tour and instead released an album using old already recorded reject tracks that weren't good enough to make it on any of their previous albums(Father Christmas the 1 exception).Then to further help pay for the debt. they had incurred,they made a contractual album with their former record company Atlantic,Love Beach,an album all 3 members confessed to hating.After disbanding Emerson went on to a successful career writing movie scores,the 1st being the movie track to Inferno and the 2nd being the highly sucessful movie Nighthawks among others.Then in 1992,Emerson decided to enlist the aid of his former band members on the movie soundtrack he was writing for,but instead they produced the comeback album Black Moon and a highly successful world tour followed.After this Emerson developed nerve damage in his right hand and has been unable to play up to his par since,but has yet continued a successful solo carreer and also periodically reunited with his former band and even recorded a triple cd set with The Nice.So you see ,Emerson and ELP are 1st rate phenominal musicians,not showy entertainers.
wrote:

Hi,
 
It's not a hard choice.
 
Moody Blues ... because ELP, by the time they hit the road, already were representing a part of the rock music world that became ugly, and was about the excesses and the abuses, rather than the music itself.
 
Granted, it was the time for abuses, excesses, drugs and what not ... but I'm not sure that it was necessary all around, and while a few of the pieces by ELP are very nice and meaningful, in the end, with the exception of a piece or two in each album, some of the stuff was not as enjoyable or as good for me. And in this sense, I thought that the Moody Blues were a bit more serious about their music and work, albeit I would agree that they tried to get "poetically cute" to get more attention ... but their first album is, in many ways, a much more important listen when it comes to the histroy of rock music ... because it really showed that young folks that played rock music could do some very nice and important things that were far more than just a radio song!
 
ELP, and I like and have the first several albums, is very nice ... and the "violence" they tend to do some things is very clear and a valid point and attitude in music and its expression ... however, after one kill ... it's a game?


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 07:40
Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

SleepyIf that's your reason,I think you'd be more comfortable listening to country/western than to prog.Progressive:(definition)-advocating progress,as in technology(2)progressing;advancing;improving.
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

The moody blues!They are less technical.
 
Paul. The method of replying you are using here is technically called " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting" rel="nofollow - Top Posting " - while there is nothing inherently wrong in doing this, you may have noticed that no one around here does that - we all " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting" rel="nofollow - Bottom Post ". Top-posting is okay in emails and PMs, but in forum posts it's confusing since we read threads from the top of the page to the bottom, and the same for each post - we read the quote, then the reply from top to bottom just as you would read paragraphs in book.
 
Now, as I said, there is nothing inherently wrong with this, and as a means of stamping your individuality it's fine by me, but it does mean that anyone replying to your post is going to Bottom-post their response which will result in a right royal bloody mess and it does fly against convention and standard PA posting etiquette.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 07:50
In other words Paul, you do this....

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

SleepyIf that's your reason,I think you'd be more comfortable listening to country/western than to prog.Progressive:(definition)-advocating progress,as in technology(2)progressing;advancing;improving.
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

The moody blues!They are less technical.
 
Paul. The method of replying you are using here is technically called " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting" rel="nofollow - Top Posting " - while there is nothing inherently wrong in doing this, you may have noticed that no one around here does that - we all " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting" rel="nofollow - Bottom Post ". Top-posting is okay in emails and PMs, but in forum posts it's confusing since we read threads from the top of the page to the bottom, and the same for each post - we read the quote, then the reply from top to bottom just as you would read paragraphs in book.
 
Now, as I said, there is nothing inherently wrong with this, and as a means of stamping your individuality it's fine by me, but it does mean that anyone replying to your post is going to Bottom-post their response which will result in a right royal bloody mess and it does fly against convention and standard PA posting etiquette.

.....when it is better if you do this!!!Smile


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 07:53
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

In other words Paul, you do this....

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rematpac rematpac wrote:

SleepyIf that's your reason,I think you'd be more comfortable listening to country/western than to prog.Progressive:(definition)-advocating progress,as in technology(2)progressing;advancing;improving.
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

The moody blues!They are less technical.
 
Paul. The method of replying you are using here is technically called " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting" rel="nofollow - Top Posting " - while there is nothing inherently wrong in doing this, you may have noticed that no one around here does that - we all " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting" rel="nofollow - Bottom Post ". Top-posting is okay in emails and PMs, but in forum posts it's confusing since we read threads from the top of the page to the bottom, and the same for each post - we read the quote, then the reply from top to bottom just as you would read paragraphs in book.
 
Now, as I said, there is nothing inherently wrong with this, and as a means of stamping your individuality it's fine by me, but it does mean that anyone replying to your post is going to Bottom-post their response which will result in a right royal bloody mess and it does fly against convention and standard PA posting etiquette.

.....when it is better if you do this!!!Smile
...as opposed to this http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77532&PID=4132332#4132332" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77532&PID=4132332#4132332  which is my definition of a right royal bloody mess. Wink

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 08:02
^Totally agree, damn near impossible to follow.

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Posted By: Mista-Gordie
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 08:57
The Moody blues


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 11:47
ELP fan here.

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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 12:36
I love how many responses go along the lines of-"Definitely ELP, I heard this one part of this Moody Blues album once and can say definitely ELP."

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 12:45
I can understand that,the moodies were not virtuosos as are Keith or Carl but......love the Moodies, they belong to my childhood, and i still love ELP.......


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 06:19
ELP

both bands went downhill (IMO), MB after 1972 and ELP after 1973. 

ELP got my vote because I just listen to them more :)


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 08:11
Both bands I don’t have much love for, but Emerson, Lake & Palmer won here on the strength of their self-titled debut and Brain Salad Surgery.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 09:40
ELP, by far.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 11:30
the Moody Blues


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 13:30
Love them both but...
...ELP.


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 16:01
ELP by a country mile....

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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 17:22
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

ELP, by far.




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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 19:03
Moody Blues for me but I like both a lot and both are in my top 15 or so. Unfortunately I've never seen ELP(just Keith and Greg, Keith solo once and CP solo once). The Moody Blues I have seen but only once unfortunately(1988 on the Sur La Mer tour).


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 04 2018 at 19:24
Moody Blues...their first 7 are all good imo and in the old days we played them far more than ELP  ,and I only really like the first 4 ELP....the debut still being my favorite.
I have a lot more fond memories of those nights listening to In Search of or Children's Children.


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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 05 2018 at 01:22
The Moodies. I don't even like ELP that much.

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Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: June 05 2018 at 10:27
Magnificent Moodies, bruh. Infinitely better songwriting.

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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 11:26
ELP were amazing, but I will always have a very big, soft spot in my heart for the Moodies.  And nothing will ever top Days of Future Passed.  


Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: August 20 2018 at 01:12
The Magnificent Moodies....


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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: August 20 2018 at 08:13
Emerson Lake & Palmer have a lunacy I found Moody Blues too restrained but pleasant enough for.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 21 2018 at 11:09
The Moody Blues by a very thin margin. Their music just resonates with me more and they had more really good albums. ELP were great but apart from their first four studio albums they didn't put out a whole lot of really good material(imo).


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 21 2018 at 11:32
^Yes..it always pissed me off that ELP only did 4 solid albums....5 if you count Pictures....they were obviously capable of much more than they offered up.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: August 21 2018 at 15:53
ELP! I do have respect for those who have followed the Moodies and they were real prog pioneers, but I've generally found them a touch mellow

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Posted By: TiddK
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 11:23
That was an easy choice, as I can't stand ELP !


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 13:47
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The Moody Blues by a very thin margin. Their music just resonates with me more and they had more really good albums. ELP were great but apart from their first four studio albums they didn't put out a whole lot of really good material(imo).
 

They accomplished a lot in a short window of time. We also got some terrific live albums and the two Works volumes (new and previously recorded material) before they called it a day for a few years.

Count me as a fan of Emerson, Lake & Powell, though!


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 14:51
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Yes..it always pissed me off that ELP only did 4 solid albums....5 if you count Pictures....they were obviously capable of much more than they offered up.

I totally agree. I think ELPowell was quite good though and even Black Moon is at least halfway decent. WOrks volume 2 has some good stuff on it as well. Volume one I've never heard but apparently it's really bloated and makes tales from topographic oceans sound coherent and concise. 


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 15:05
I like Works Volume 1 - but you've got to treat it as 3 solo sides and a group side. Really like Keith's Concerto and Greg's side has some good stuff (although some dodgy stuff too). Carl's side is a bit all over the place, but quite enjoyable overall. The album stands or falls on the last side and whether you like the melodrama of Pirates or not, following Fanfare.

However, even as a fan, they really needed to follow up Brain Salad Surgery after their hiatus with a solid Trilogy/Tarkus-style album, and they didn't. I do think it affected their legacy (along with the patchy nature of what followed) and I understand why those who didn't live through their tenure find them less compelling and don't rate them as highly amongst the Big Six. C'est La Vie!


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 27 2018 at 23:38
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP are my favourite band.
 
The only Moody Blues album I own is Question and I never manage to get very far past the opening track. I used to have Days Of Future Passed which is a very important seminal work but not nowadays a favourite of mine.
btw Justin Hayward is from my home town of Swindon along with Rick Davies of Supertramp and the new wave band XTC. Just thought I would throw that in!

Well said!  This Yank used to live and work in Devon UK, and I've been through Swindon.  I miss your land! 

I also said ELP on the strength of the talent of the individual band members, but the Moodies made huge contributions to prog.  


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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: August 28 2018 at 03:14
I suppose it's just amazing coincidence that I recently picked up both of their Isle Of Wight DVD sets. It's quite fun seeing the footage they share.

Like the Moodies; when great they are magnificent and may even be better song writers. ELP hardly did songs as such - they made epic classical rock even more epic. From The Beginning is a magnificent song and Lake would have done well had he been in the Moodies.



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 28 2018 at 03:57
My persepctive has changed over time and since I cast my original vote in this poll, years ago. I'd vote for the Moody Blues these days, but still like ELP.

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Posted By: Ian Stuart
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 23:10
I can't imagine life without either of these Incomparable bands ... but by a tiny margin, the Moody Blues.



Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: October 05 2018 at 01:19
The Moodies, no doubt. I can't remember the last time I listened to ELP.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 20 2018 at 02:22
I enjoy both, but ELP does it a bit more for me these days.

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 12:12
ELP

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 04:51
bump! 


Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 05:26
ELP were the most exciting and talented of all the prog bands and often produced 'difficult' and challenging music.
The Moody Blues - also pioneering and creative but had that tendency to sound like a pop group at times (that's just me)


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 06:45
How did I miss this poll over the last 10 years. LOL
A resounding...
ELP


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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: October 27 2021 at 04:18
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The Moody Blues by a very thin margin. Their music just resonates with me more and they had more really good albums. ELP were great but apart from their first four studio albums they didn't put out a whole lot of really good material(imo).
I struggle to find one decent Moody Blues album. ELP on the other hand have their first four albums which are masterpieces of the genre. They lost it with Works and never really got it back but that doesn't diminish what they achieved with those first four albums.



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