Yes and Styx on tour....is this progressive?
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Topic: Yes and Styx on tour....is this progressive?
Posted By: cstack3
Subject: Yes and Styx on tour....is this progressive?
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 12:55
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http://yesworld.com/ywpr_summertour.html" rel="nofollow - http://yesworld.com/ywpr_summertour.html
Seems more regressive than progressive to me! Is this just a bald-faced move to pry open the wallets of us 50-something fans?? Pardon my cynicism, when Jon Anderson's acoustic tour tickets came up, I jumped on them & scored front-row/center in Chicago!
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 13:00
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Noted. Wednesday July 20th. I'll be there. I think. I'll have to sell my Tigers' tickets for that day, but that can be done. ------------- 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 13:53
Not even coming anywhere near me. 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 14:01
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Come on up to Detroit...and bring cake. -------------
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 14:51
Feel free to post the dates in the gigs section.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 16:43
| I guess they hate Canada. I remember the Vancouver gig getting canceled a couple of years ago and now they're not even going to revisit it. Boo-urns. |
Posted By: irregardlessly
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 19:26
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I have no interest in a Deyoung-less Styx. Drama is one of my favorite Yes albums and I would be excited to see a lot of those songs live. Loved seeing Machine Messiah and Tempus Fugit on the last tour. Would love to see Into the Lens as well. Downes is good but it is somewhat odd the way Oliver Wakeman seems to have been elbowed out of the band.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 19:29
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If Yes had Jon Anderson and Styx wasn't Styx then this would be interesting but, sadly..... -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 19:52
That was really disappointing when that happened, I had everything booked to see that one.
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King By-Tor wrote:Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 20:09
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I had tickets to the Yes show cancelled in Seattle......2006 I think? Anyhow if this comes around the Emerald City I will go. I mean why not, some of these bands are gonna start hanging it up for good soon, then what are we gonna do?
Is Styx still not able to perform songs like Come Sail Away? Dennis DeYoung still blocking some songs I suppose.
Just checked.....we get two shows in WA and both at wineries....Whoo-hoo!!!! -------------   
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Posted By: prog4ever
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 21:14
| sad indeed yes not coming to MTL a prog music hot bed . Allez benoit un peu d'effort pour ta ville natale |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 21:23
This for sure.
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 00:00
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It says co-headlining, but are Styx or Yes playing first? I imagine we'll see a lot of people leaving fashionably early or arriving fashionably late. ------------- 
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 01:08
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Hi, For people that have never seen YES, this is a good thing. It is a chance to re-connect with a band that did do a lot of nice things, albeit, at this point, I am not sure that I would want to hear the hits again, which are overplayed and overheard and ... I'm bored with! I can not comment on Oliver and what happened to him. I can imagine, however, that he is probably too young and not as well versed in the arts of the keyboard to be able to do things well enough and consistently ... but that is a supposition and not necessarily a reality. He really came into an impossible situation ... but might lack the compositional skills that would naturally help the band do something new? ... who knows ... I wish them good luck, and hope for the best ... I saw them perform one of the greatest things ever done in rock music at the Long Beach Arena with Tales from Topographic Oceans ... and I still remember the insults in the audience with a couple of kids totally stoned out screaming "rock'n'roll" and one other that screamed "roundabout" as Yes was playing through Part 3 of their opus ... In the end ... it's not times change ... it's ... we go back and redo our hits yet again. It's the newwave-prog, haven't you heard? ... the old days are coming around ... Buffalo Springfield, and some of those oldies ... and that means that one day we will see Yes do Tales again ... after we're dead, probably! But I have a feeling that's one piece that Chris doesn't like ... because it means he is not a special rock'n'roll bassist anymore? I think I would rather have tea and a nice and quiet evening with Jon ... I think that we old mountain goats might have a bit more to talk about than some esoteric discussion about proto-prog or some bs-prog ... ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 07:03
| ARe Styx really "the cutting edge of prog-rock in America"? |
Posted By: davidk
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 08:53
I agree I would like to see them, but I would rather not here stuff like Owner of a Lonely Heart it would be so much better if they tried doing something like their Symphonic Tour again now those songs they chose were perfect! and of course I like Drama, but I would never really want to actually see Yes without Jon.
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Posted By: davidk
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 08:58
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 09:20
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Styx are not a prog band, they're a rock band who dipped their toe in "art rock/crossover prog". They made a few great albums but would never compare themselves to the English giants as far as being prog. They were pretty humble about their place in the food chain, and despite all the venomous and petty press they received, their fans gave them the last laugh. I consider them irrelevant without DeYoung but then I consider Yes irrelevant after Drama. Both bands are casino fare these days. |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 10:22
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Styx w/o DeYoung.
Yes w/o Anderson.
...There's a hidden message here...
I lost interest in Styx post-DeYoung. Wonder about post-Anderson Yes.
Yes should be touring with the future of prog, not the past.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 11:24
If you check out the Yes website under Tour, I think it details which cities that Yes is the opening act. -------------
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 21:41
I don't think Oliver is any younger than Rick was when Yes recorded Fragile, CttE, and TfTO, nor younger than Rick was when he recorded 6 Wives of Henry the VIII. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 09 2011 at 00:42
How about Styx, Yes and Puppet Show?  |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:40
This. |
Posted By: ShipOfFools
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 14:23
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Yes is my favorite band, hands down. I love everything they've ever done. I did see them live last year, and they were brilliant. Shame that Oliver had to go, because he was as good as his dad. That being said, I am a fan of the Drama lineup (have a few boots from that tour), so I'm glad to see Geoff back in the band. Wish Jon was back in, but maybe he'll be in for the next album and tour! And I will definitely be purchasing Fly From Here. ------------- 
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 19:05
Oliver is the first son of Rick Wakeman, but his parents divorced when he was young.
I'm thinking that your information ... is not as good. Oliver would have been a baby during that time with Rick, or just a few years old.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 06:59
I'm thinking that you've misunderstood what he was trying to say.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 21:35
Indeed, I believe I was misunderstood. Moshkito had stated before that he thought Oliver was too young to be able to prove himself within Yes. However, Oliver's age right now is surely older than his father's age (as well as the rest of the band member's age) when Yes recorder their best accepted albums. I mean, surely right now Oliver is older than 30, perhaps even close to 40. On the other side, all of Yes were in their early 20's while the band was in it's prime, so I don't think Oliver's age has anything to do with whether he is able to prove himself within Yes or not. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 21:42
I couldn't ever be arsed to see Styx, but I will say I've seen some great Yes gigs in the "recent" past, there was a stunning one I saw in DC a number of years ago (8 years? It's all becoming a blur). I think they had Khoroshev on keys and performed Gates of Delirium and I was shocked at how good it was. Although that might have been the last time I saw them. I don't know how I'd feel about this Benoit David fronted Yes though. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 00:11
Styx hails from these parts (Chicago suburbs), they used to play at the local youth center when I was in high school! I didn't see them until 1973, they were reasonably good (this was the era of their hit single "Lady"), but I never really got into them. They were played to death on local FM radio, I grew mighty sick of "Sail Away" and "Mr. Roboto"...ugh! There are so many other promising tours going on this summer, it is hard to keep up with them! Peter Gabriel, Asia, Jon Anderson, and many other prog war-horses are hitting the trail as well as this version of Yes. I already voted with my wallet & have front-row tickets to Jon Anderson's acoustic gig.
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Posted By: Scizoidman94
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 00:06
| Styx is a decent live show right now, even without DeYoung. I saw them along with Kansas last year. Kansas was better of course but Styx was pretty good. I'm not interested at all in Yes without Jon Anderson, but I might give the new album a listen when it comes. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 00:11
I agree. If this clip is typical of Benoit David's stage presence, then I am very glad I bought my tickets for Jon Anderson's acoustic show! I mean, what a dork! I used to wear clothes like that in high school (40 years ago). Nice white tamborine thingy also. |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 04:39
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cstack3 the Jon Anderson's acoustic show is just an amazing concert ,i saw it last december in LA and was just amazing .it is worth it. ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Scizoidman94
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 17:20
Its rare for prog and fashion to go hand in hand.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 01:47
Hah! Yeah, I'd noticed back in the 1970's! Still, there are some wonderful stage-fashions that evolved....Squire was always one of my favorite Prog war-clothes-horses!! Lovely purple cape (and fantastic song by the way) |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 05:17
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I bought tickets to Yes concert, Helsinki in December. After watching Yours I No Disgrace clip above I have big doubts about how enjoyable that will be. Mainly thinking of that dull impersonator ... Have Mercy! |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 16:52
Hah! I wouldn't worry about it, just go and have a good time watching & listening to Squire and Howe. They won't be touring forever. And, they should have new material, so perhaps that will fit this lineup better. !
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 17:10
Don't mangle my words. Styx is terrible and always has been terrible, DeYoung or no DeYoung. ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 17:12
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I'm revisiting classic era Styx by listening to their Grand Illusion - Paradise Theater albums. With apologies to those who hate Styx these are great freakin' albums in my book. Wonderful art-rock, entertaining as hell, great hooks, they rock, and there are lots of great vocal harmonies and interesting arrangements. Sure they have some ballads on the sappy side, so what? Most of the great prog bands had some embarrassing songs. My opinion of Styx is way up after re-connecting with these albums and giving them some thorough listens again. Not that I want to see any codger-rock reunions. Styx should have hung it up with Paradise and never looked back. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 20:05
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The best rock concert of my life was seeing Styx on The Grand Illusion tour in the spring of 1977 at the Ottawa Civic Center, Ottawa, Canada, with opening act Prism.We had about the best seats in the house. Saw them again in the fall of 1979 at the same venue, but they were nowhere near as good. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 21:17
^ Wow, I would have loved to see any of those late 70s tours!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 06:53
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I recommend sailing away as fast as you can.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 23:07
Hah! Or just stay in port! I've already bought Jon Anderson tickets, he's playing at a lovely, small theater just up the road from my house. I already passed on B. David's Yes when they performed at Chicago House of Blues, what a letdown from the 35th Anniversary Tour (sold out at one of our largest venues, the Allstate Arena!). How the mighty have fallen.....Puppet Show, Styx, Yes....not necessarily in that order. I saw Styx in 1974, they were okay, but not as good as some of the other local bands (Starcastle, Head East etc.) I shudder to think about what this mess will look like on tour! By the way, I've heard that Frank Gambale and Chick Corea's Electrick band are going on tour, with Zappa Plays Zappa as backup! I'll gladly buy tickets for that one, thanks!! ZPZ is outstanding, highly recommended. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 15:56
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I personally think this is a great double bill, both acts are great live. I always liked Styx, they managed to straddle the rock and prog worlds more successfully than most. JY and Tommy Shaw are great guitarists, who most on this site don't give their due!! I also like the addition of Gowan from my country:) Any band would kill to have one good vocalist nevermind three!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 15:59
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They are playing here tonight. I decided today not to go though. I love both bands in whatever their makeup, but the temperature is exceeding 95 degrees today and that is just too damn hot for anything. -------------
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 23:20
Probably a wise choice, although from reviews, it is a somewhat brief show, considering two bands! This video is from Jon Anderson's acoustic performance last night, I think his voice is in perfect form!! Seek this one out if you can, I'm seeing him in Illinois on Aug. 5th at a nice, indoor (air-conditioned) theater! |
Posted By: GypsyJoker
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 00:01
The guy's almost 67 and he still sounds that good. Dang.
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 06:33
very impessive singing! |
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 11:43
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 13:31
Agreed! However, Benoit David is still smelling up the stage on this tour! Check this performance out...he is painfully off-key! Also, I like how he turns his back to the audience! Why doesn't he check his watch while he's at it? And, he still has those cool dance moves! I like the one comment posted onto Youtube, "Deficiente GD". |
Posted By: GypsyJoker
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 16:44
Question is, was he this bad on the previous tour(s)? If not, why now?
They've succeeded in finding the one singer in the entire world who makes Jon Anderson look like Rambo.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 17:39
The video of Starship Trooper is even more hilarious. He doesn't know what to do with the guitar they gave him during the song. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 17:49
Those lucky people in Los Angeles that got to see that. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 18:37
Haw! Thanks, Crimhead! For comparison, check this out.....here's a Yes vocalist who knows how to sling a guitar onstage!! (I saw this tour twice, could have seen it three times but missed out, grrrrr! It was GREAT!!) |
Posted By: GypsyJoker
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 20:17
And here's a Yes singer who knows how to sling a bass guitar! ;)
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 21:49
MAKE IT STOP!!! God, how did Yes manage to turn up these Buggles in the first place??? If they needed production, they could have turned to Brian Eno, or Todd Rundgren, or ANYONE!! Hell, Frank Zappa would have been cool!! Here's an upbeat look at FFH and the Buggles: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/14/yes-fly-from-here-review" rel="nofollow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/14/yes-fly-from-here-review |
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 19:54
| I saw it in the Bay Area. It was a great show. The only thing I don't get is why Styx was the headliner. |
Posted By: Zombiezilla
Date Posted: December 09 2011 at 22:57
I took my daughter to the show when they played Red Rocks this summer. She's 14 and it was her first concert. So yeah, my daughter (named Kayleigh) went to her very first concert at Red Rocks (we live in the Chicago area), and it was Yes and Styx. Ya gotta admit that is pretty cool. Even cooler? She is now a Yes fan. Know what is even cooler? She's angry with me because I am deciding to buy the new Discipline album over the Glass Hammer one. So, whether or not the new version of Yes is as good as the old is a bit of a moot point for some, as it is converting some kids. 
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