Large Capacity MP3 Players
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Topic: Large Capacity MP3 Players
Posted By: Kilgannon
Subject: Large Capacity MP3 Players
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 02:38
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I'm pretty sure the iPod 160GB, which I have, is as large as they come in terms of pure players, not Archos etc., but I figured a music appreciation site is as good a place to check as any.
Does anyone know if there are any bigger than the aforementioned iPod as mine is a couple GB off being full  ------------- 
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 02:43
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Kilgannon wrote:Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 03:33
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I'm currently using Audiogalaxy.com on my Android phone ... it streams music from my home computer, so I essentially have a 500+ GB music player. It's a free service, the sound quality is quite good - the only drawback is of course that if you listen to music a lot on the phone, you'll need a plan that includes a few GBs of mobile data traffic per month. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 03:41
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^Which means presumably that when you are out you must leave your Pc on? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Kilgannon
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 04:38
Yeah that would be my issue with that solution :/ -------------
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 05:23
Yes - that's the other drawback.  ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 05:37
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There's nowt wrong with an Archos.
Once you have a 250Gb harddrive and a lithium battery to power it you are looking at something approaching the same size as a Archos 5 anyway.
In fact my Archos-5 is actually smaller than my WD-250Gb Passport external harddrive. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 05:43
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Not the same as a portable player as such but I have a 1tb Verbatim bus-powered drive full of lossless music which I plug directly into my Oppo BluRay player and then play through my surround system. The Oppo is truly a thing of wonder. It plays flacs, DVD-A, SACD, MKV, Avi etc. In fact the only thing it won't play at the moment because of European licensing issues is MP3(!).
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 06:49
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Well, my computer is always on for other reasons, so I guess that puts me in a different position. I also think that it's simply extremely convenient when you really only need one gadget to carry around all the time. But what I could do is to get an old used netbook and use that as the always on computer at home ... it would consume much less power. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 06:53
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I feel your pain. My last two players got all full on me. I decided to rip at a lower bit rate and use the wma format which supposedly will make a 64 bit that sounds as good as 128 mp3. Then for the best quality listening experience I just play the originals on the home stereo.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 06:54
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 08:32
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^ Maybe. But I like the hazzle-free approach of AudioGalaxy. I have a big collection of files, all nicely tagged and with the correct album art. Even if there were affordable net drive services for 100+ GB of data, I wouldn't want to maintain such a collection in addition to the local collection. Maybe with some sort of automatic synchronization (like rsync), but I'm not aware of such a solution (remember, "affordable"). BTW: Another advantage of AudioGalaxy (and similar solutions) is that they automatically encode the audio for mobile bandwidth - and it sounds quite good. You can even have a multi terabyte collection of lossless audio, and it would still all be available on the smartphone. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 09:58
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I have read some nasty reviews on the archos 5, which is a shame because it sure has potential. what saddens me is that since most companies decided to go flash instead of harddrives, the capacities were reduced, bigest example: Zune, no more zune120 or upgrade, they replaced it with the zune touch, up to 32 (or 64?) GB.... I eager to see the day when flash drives reach 320 gb  as for now, if you want high capacity and not to deal with build quality issues, i believe the ipod 160gb is the safest bet. as for me I have a zune120 and im not getting a higher capacity one anytime soon. ------------- |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 11:15
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If you're jonesing for a better player, it pays to hold out as long as you can because something better will likely come along for cheaper.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 12:34
^ That surely pays, since it keeps you from ever buying anything. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:03
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I basically have the same setup as Mike, except I'm using Subsonic instead of Audiogalaxy. I have a very small, low-power Lenovo nettop running as the music server at home - it's basically running a Linux shell (no X-windows or any graphical programs running), I ssh into it from my Linux desktop for adding files and maintenance. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:06
| Archos 5 looks like a nice little device and gives you 500 GB. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:15
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:29
In the case of the Zune, nothing newer,better will be coming out. It would be nice if the price would drop to make them move affordable. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:50
Just be sure not to drop it in the toilet at the airport. My sister did that with a cell phone or something. May have been an ipod.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:55
Reading this with my common or garden Sony MP3 player (8gb capacity) on, I suddenly feel extremely inadequate ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Kilgannon
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 15:03
Do you have any more info on the Archos, i.e. good touch screen, smooth playback, easy to navigate? Basically does it have any major issues, I have no real problems with the Archos range it's just that they do appear somewhat large from pictures. If they turn out to be a reliable piece of hardware then in the long run getting the 500gb or even 250gb model would make portable music storage a whole lot easier; I'm sure I've seen some pretty good prices for them around... -------------
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 15:16
Nice. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 15:30
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I have a 2 GB iPod and I hook it up to my laptop once or twice a week and add the 12 or 15 albums that I think that I will want to listen to during the week. Works like a charm. ------------- 
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 15:32
| I agree...I don't need too much music with me mobile, because when I'm out it's usually to do something - I just need an album or two for the bus there and back. I don't see the point of bringing your entire music collection with you, as cool as it is. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 15:53
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^ that's the approach I use in the car - the headunit takes a standard USB pendrive - a 4Gb stick re-loaded with music every once in a while is far easier (and safer) than trying to navigate through 250G of files while driving. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 16:21
I'm fairly good about being able to manually change CDs while driving. My last truck's player had an auxiliary plug in, so I'd usually just shuffle on a playlist when I used that. I like the idea of a USB port though. Unfortunately that poses the problem of figuring out what the heck you want to listen to in advance which is why I came up with my randomizer method. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 17:24
Not sure if they will drop much, the latest ZuneHD's are flashdrive based and not HDD like original models. That and along with the Nvidia Tegra chip and OLED touchscreen keeps the cost up there, I have a ZuneHD 32GB and that's more than enough space......Every couple of months I will wipe the device clean and reload it from scratch. That forces me to relook at my collection regularly. They do make a ZuneHD 64GB...
Or you can get two iPod320Gb and duct tape them together.....  -------------   
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 17:34
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Posted By: Kilgannon
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 18:08
I don't see it as a matter of cool as much as utility. It's much easier for me to have all my music on one portable player as if I am out for the whole day, which I often am, my mood will often change unpredictably with regards to what music I want to listen and it is therefore more beneficial for me to have it all on me  -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 18:26
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 19:06
In that time I've never even had to do a hardware reset on it, unlike my old 4th Gen iPlod which would freeze and jam with alarming (and disapointing) regularity.
They've changed from resistive touch screens to capacitive since I bought mine I believe, not that there was anything wrong with the old one. It works - navigation is okay, but scrolling through 500+ artists using any touch screen on any media player is a pain in the bum.
WiFi connection is good - when at home I have HD dock for it that connects it to the TV so I can record broadcast programmes onto it or play back vids from it on to a big screen, (I recorded the BBC4 prog-friendly programmes on to it) or I can just browse the interwebs and watch YouToob - that dock also allows me to stream stuff from any PC on the home network to the Archos and thus onto the TV, which is cool.
My only complaint about it is the version of Opera mine has is incompatible with PA so I cannot post to the forum using it.
As to the size of it - yeah it is a little bulky compared to any other portable media player - then it contains a 250Gb harddrive that (as I mentioned earlier) limits how small it can be and it has a 5" screen which makes watching video actually possible (on a smaller screen it isn't really worth the effort) - it's 120mm x 80mm x 15mm which makes it 20mm wider and 20mm longer than an iPlod classic and 50% heavier (240g vs 160g).
Anyway, for those few times when size and weight is a problem, I bought its http://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCHOS-Vision-8GB-MP3-Player/dp/B003H74WKM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1301357119&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow - 1" baby brother .  ------------- What? |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 21:11
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I have a 240 gb ipod from http://www.ipodzens.com/" rel="nofollow - these guys that pretty much suits my needs. But it was refurbished and it doesn't look like they sell my kind anymore. It also has an improved sound chip so it's a pretty good deal. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 21:17
Thank you sir for that point....and a good one as I have already kept my eye on pricing as I would like to get a few extras, couple to use a 1-2 to keep for potential value increase.
I personally feel it is one of the best music media players on the market.....its very cool! -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 22:00
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 22:43
Why have 1 when you can have 240? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 08:46
That's still valid for me.  The best player I have is still the 500MB no-name I got back in 2006!  |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 05:04
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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Amazon-Cloud-Drive-Sony-Music-Cloud-Player-Amazon-MP3,news-10680.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Amazon-Cloud-Drive-Sony-Music-Cloud-Player-Amazon-MP3,news-10680.html What??? As far as I know "streaming" is included in copyright jurisdiction as a public broadcast, and listening to your MP3s that only you have access over the internet is hardly a public broadcast. |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 09:27
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^ depending on whom you give the password to ... or in other words, depending on how many people can access stored files simultaneously. But of course the music industry tries to throw a wrench in there regardless - their knee jerk reaction is "wait - isn't this something we should charge extra for?". ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 09:32
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^ Exactly. RE the password, I only paid for one CD in the case of each album I bought, but my girlfriend also hears them, and my guests too (when I have). Should I be chaged extra? |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:00
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I have a 120 GB iPod Classic and it's only about 2/3 full and I have trouble managing it in the car.
For those using streaming...is your phone reliable for that? For instance, on my phone when using last.fm, I'm fine in wifi but on 3G there are often enough delays to make it unusable. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:04
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:06
Depends on how good my 3G connection is, but I usually have no issues. Subsonic basically downloads all the songs in your queue to your phone while streaming, so once the downloads are complete you're basically not streaming anymore. I do sometimes like to have the first song buffered before playing so I don't have to deal with a data starvation scenario. Alternatively, if I'm headed out I'll quickly download an album over my home wifi as I'm out the door. The other nice thing is you can set a reasonably large cache size (I have mine set to 10 GB) so your downloaded albums are stored - when you want to listen to something again, it's there, no streaming needed. I also should mention there's a web interface for Subsonic such that I can access the server from my laptop at the office, and listen to all my music that way. My wife does the same at her job. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:24
I know, I was having that in mind. Which one of those would the cloud-streaming breach IYO? |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:30
AudioGalaxy is quite reliable - they also recode the audio for optimum performance. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:44
sorry, what was the question? ------------- What? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:47
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Thanks, I gathered what's your answer I see what you mean and I agree.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:48
| Jay, your avy is so EVAL! |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:53
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Devy or Anakin?
Darth Townsend. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 11:18
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 12:20
Nah ... Darth Ziltoid! ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 21:57
Thanks to your suggestion I’ve just brought an Archos 70 250gb and It’s perfect. Finally I have a device where I can fit all my music in it. I hate deleting albums from my iPod; it really has become a survival of the fittest with it. I’m living proof of natural selection! ------------- ''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.'' - Albert Camus |