Over the Ocean for Post Rock
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Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Over the Ocean for Post Rock
Posted By: Andy Webb
Subject: Over the Ocean for Post Rock
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 21:12
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http://www.myspace.com/overtheoceanband" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/overtheoceanband Another Post Rock band!!!! Over the Ocean is a shoegazeish post-rock rock band from the US. They're not pure post rock (they have an actual singer!  ), but they have a very atmospheric post rockish feel to their music. http://overtheocean.bandcamp.com/album/paper-house" rel="nofollow - http://overtheocean.bandcamp.com/album/paper-house Their album TECHNICALLY can be downloaded for free, but it's also not a "free download," so they're sorta "signed" in some way (note this was posted on PostRockIsAGenre's youtube channel! ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 09:16
| Thanks, we'll check them. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 07:41
| Where exactly is the purchasable release? I can't find it. |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 08:24
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i couldn't find buy option for the album, also. so this band for now is not eligible for addition on PA, although their album is professionally recorded, produced, mixed.. ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk 
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 15:44
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Well like I said TECHNICALLY you CAN download it for free, but you can also buy it. That's the "Buy Now.... name your price" option. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 09:02
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'NAME YOUR PRICE' option is not appropriate, there is no set price, it must be officially released to be considered as eligible for PA ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 16:43
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Well it was "officially" released, just not "money-purchaseably" released. The only example I can think of right now is Until Sunrise, but I know a few bands are here but offer free downloadable albums. And I just found it on Amazon, but it's not currently available, so they once upon a time sold it...? http://www.amazon.com/Paper-House-Over-Ocean/dp/B004D4YH6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299624007&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Paper-House-Over-Ocean/dp/B004D4YH6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299624007&sr=1-1 ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 16:53
| Until Sunrise sell their album on iTunes (we couldn't have had them other way). There has to be purchasable music in order for a band to be eligible for addition. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 05:26
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Aha! Didn't even think of that! http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/paper-house/id406897823" rel="nofollow - http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/paper-house/id406897823  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 09:29
well, in that case i think they are eligible for inclusion on PA, i will add them on our progfreak charts, and if they are approved you can write the bio, andyman1125  ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 11:34
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Thanks! ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 04:26
| I'm not sure about this, I'll have to ask for Admin advice. The same digital files being sold somewhere and given for free in another place is a confusing situation, in what the PA policies are concerned. Don't they have another album for sale? |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 15:21
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They have 1 album. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 21:43
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Any word? no votes have been cast at prog freak ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 19 2011 at 04:41
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hey Alex, did you contact the admins for this band ? and what is their decision ? Andyman, when we get the admins approval we will evaluate them ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 19 2011 at 08:22
alright, thanks  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 19 2011 at 11:19
| Sorry Andy, I didn't notice your link to Amazon a few posts back. If they used to sell their album on CD they're definitely signed according to PA policy, even if it's out of print now. So they're eligible. On to evaluating them now... |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 19 2011 at 12:46
Thanks!  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 18:32
And goodnight...!Over the Ocean
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(harmoniumro)Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 18:44
| It only took 1 rejection vote to settle it..? |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 19:45
If I remember correctly there were only the two of them in the team back then, and harmonium.ro was also in sole charge of the New Suggestions forum - a 'no' from him was definitely curtains!  But moving along from here - according to the rules, even in 4-man teams a single 'no' vote means that a candidate is automatically rejected (this was the situation in Crossover before I joined the team in January to make it 5), whereas 5-man teams can clear artists on a close-run 3-2 majority (as we do now in Crossover). No - I don't fully understand it either...  And don't EVER ask me to explain this: Anathema
(Don't worry - they were added in Experimental/Post Metal, and I think the band should have been 'removed' from Crossover rather than rejected, after three straight yeses! )For the record, here are the PA voting guidelines: 4. Bands being evaluated by a genre team will be accepted on a majority vote of the active team members
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Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 20:18
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If three out of four agree on a four man team, that's 75%, more than pretty much any presidential election has ever won by, nevermind any other kind of election conducted in a similar 'majority rules' manner. On a three person team, 3 votes is still a ghastly majority, with 66.666% for it. However, the requirement for the vote to be unanimous here is more understandable, but only just. For comparison, the percent ratio of 3:2 (Yes:No) on a five man team is 60:40, LESS than the ratio of both team compositions below it. I realize it doesn't strictly come down to numbers here, but...wait, yes, it actually does, since it is a voting system based around the number of team members and the number of votes. Further, the percent ratio on a six man team of 4:2 is 66:34, the EQUIVALENT of a non-passing vote in a 3-man team. Meanwhile, a seven man team with a vote of 4:3 is LESS than that, at 57:43, and it is allowed to pass? You may have to excuse my excessive number-crunching, but I feel it is appropriate in this circumstance. Perhaps the remedy lies in ensuring the teams are always at a good size, such as 5 or 6? The problem seems to lie in having too few members on a team, and not scaling the voting process effectively with larger teams. Perhaps I am being a bit nitpicky, and I realize these voting systems were likely carefully planned and well-intentioned, but a bit of the logic is lost on me. Also, as a sidenote, is there a contingency plan in place for if a subgenre rejects a band that should have gone to another sub, but forgets to reccomend the move? I understand the teams can get incredibly busy, and this idea vexes me for some reason.
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 20:22
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No contingency plan. I've catered for a couple of hundred such cases myself, don't know if anyone else have taken the time to check.
------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 20:43
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I've stumbled upon a few myself too - & there are doubtless plenty more lurking away somewhere...I expect most will probably get sorted out one way or another in the fullness of time, as fresh suggestions etc get posted for the bands/artists concerned. It's so easy for posts & 'move' recommendations to get 'lost' almost anywhere on the site if they aren't deat with promptly, and subsequently get buried by a load more fresh ones following swiftly on...But we are all only volunteers, with somewhat limited time - there's no easy solution, I'm afraid.
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Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 20:49
Perhaps they require someone who's full-time application is to that particular area, no..? *nudge nudge* 
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 20:51
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The easiest ones are the teams who use the progfreak system. A lot of teams don't though, and tracking what happened to their MOVE artists basically means scouring through tons and tons of forum posts...
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Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:08
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Scouring is my middle...uh, name, I guess, though that would be an interesting moniker, if not somewhat badass, haha. I understand the problem with it, and it makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason; when systems do not operate at peak efficiency, I have this compulsory need to rectify it in some manner.
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:12
If you really feel like digging - here are some of the bands voted MOVE from the psych team for the last few years. Happy hunting. Some will have been added, others need to be checked.
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Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:14
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I will actually quite happily jump all over that after I get back from a friend's birthday party. Thank you very much, Windhwak
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:22
Supplementing with the MOVE bands from Post:
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:22
and from Heavy:
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:23
and a few from RIO:
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 21:24
and Eclectic:
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 22:03
You lost me somewhere between DeMoivre's Theorem and Fourier Analysis, but a situation where 3-2 is ok, and 3-1 isn't does strike me as being somewhat barmy! And looking at those 'move' charts...Jeez - I've opened up a real can of worms here, haven't I...All because I did a search for 'The End Of The Ocean', and turned this thread up when I whittled it down to just 'Ocean' as a final check! Travis - if you want to spend a few hours delving away, then I'm sure everyone here would be eternally grateful to you for any 'unfinished business' you managed to turn up! Looking at it realistically though, only six teams currently use progfreak - Neo, Crossover, Psych/Space, Heavy, RIO/Avant and Prog Metal. Others have used it at various times in the past, and will show up in some artist's charts, but take the Eclectic 'move' chart on there for instance - all that happened at least three years ago - they haven't used progfreak since, and all recent 'moves' have been done solely via messages posted in the team threads in the collab zone, and their charts themselves are maintained within the team threads too. To be honest, without access to the collab zone you won't get far with your investigation at all. Even the teams that do use progfreak action their 'moves' via messages posted in each other's team threads, and without being able to check that these messages have actually been posted...and then responded to...you are up the creek without a paddle! Some evaluations you would be able to follow on progfreak to a certain extent, but eventually you would still have to resort to the team thread in the collab zone to find out exactly where it all went tits-up. Progfreak is an extremely useful tool for keeping tabs on an evaluation - the problem with it is that there are no 'back', 'undo', 'edit' or 'delete' buttons anywhere. Everything you do is recorded and kept - the only way to alter stuff in any way if you screw up is to email the site owner, Mike, and get him to fix it for you. I guess that's why some teams would rather avoid the site and keep their business where they are fully in control of it. On a more positive note - if you keep up the enthusiasm for the site you have demonstrated over the past few weeks, it shouldn't be all that long before you do join the ranks of the collaborators on here. |
CoolJimmi wrote:Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 05:28
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I am quite the purveyor of prog and other artful musics, and becoming a collab of any sort would be a great honor and personal goal of mine, but I shall preserve that for the future, eh? For now, I have a good deal of interesting music to evaluate and re-reccommend to the appropriate team(s), so I'll have to get back to you on that whole 'realistically' nonsense
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Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 05:52
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As for my first act, Alumbrados (the first band listed up there in Psych), while being psychedelic in nature, would most likely fit into either Avant-Prog or Prog Folk, given this here: An offshoot of Bardo Pond (a band currently in the Psyche sub), they experiment with free improvisation and droning, post-rockish folk, utilizing many, many ethnic and esoteric instruments. Their compositions are quite lengthy, their longest track clocking in at over 37 minutes long, making the fact that only 3 official studio releases are out a bit less biting, plus their very interesting 'Live from Constantinople' CD, featuring 3 'Untitled' songs, which are essentially post-psychedelic free folk jams - a moniker I would use to describe their overall sound. "Much different than the lumbering jams of another http://www.last.fm/music/Bardo+Pond" rel="nofollow - Bardo Pond ’s offshot http://www.last.fm/music/Alasehir" rel="nofollow - Alasehir are the drenched ethno-drones of Alumbrado. Featuring John & Michael Gibbons on guitar, sitar, cumbas and various percussive instruments as well as Michael Zanghi and Aaron Igler with additional electronics and percussion. Alumbrados is a beautiful, rhythmic and tremendously arranged psychedelic experience. “Alumbrados investigations are as thorough and as reliable as researches by material scientists, but not as easily demonstrable to the general public. Spiritual powers lie dormant within every human being, and when awakened, they compensate for both telescope and microscope, they enable their possessor to investigate, instanter, things beyond the veil of matter, but they are only developed by a patient application and continuance in well doing extended over years, and few are they who have faith to start upon the path to attainment to perseverance to go through with the ordeal.” - Michael Gibbons" Very interesting indeed, especially after taking this journey: Wish I could find a stream of their super long acid song, but all I can dig up are downloads In conclusion, I would send them over to the RIO/Avant team, but Prog Folk might also want a stab at them, though they are almost certainly too far removed from anything sane and practical to fit anywhere else but in RIO/Avant, where I do believe they should rightfully be taken. Before I continue my crusade, where shall I put these? Should I create a new thread in the "Submissions" forum to house all my investigations? One of the lounges? Somewhere else?
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 06:04
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Take them to a new suggest artist thread, each and every case ;-) That's the easiest way. ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 06:32
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But here is where this 'crusade' hits the buffers to a certain extent...There are several posts in the Psych team thread concerning the original Alumbrados suggestion.They were actually moved to Indo Prog/Raga Rock on 13th November 2009 (the sub has no thread of its own, but is dealt with within the Kraut team thread) where this comment was made: "I've just discovered a few pieces from this curious band. It sounds like a medley of buzzing static sitar sequences, abrasive electric noises punctuated by cinematic-acoustic minimal guitar leads within dreamy-like / ritual proportions. It's closed to the acid-droning folk side of the subgenre (a few bands are already included). I don't see any objection...we can add them." Obviously it would be wrong for me to say out here in full public view from whom the comment originally came, but suffice it to say the addition was never made. You really do need access to the collab zone threads to check up properly on these 'lost' bands and artists. Starting a fresh topic is all well and good, but in many cases (such as this one you) would be starting out from scratch again where it would probably be possible to sort the matter out once and for all with a simple 'bump' in the appropriate place within the collab zone. Am I making any sense? I would recommend that you be given access to the collab zone with immediate effect in order to carry out this quite important work that you have so kindly offered to do for us, but it isn't my call. Someone way above my own status would have to get this agreed for you with the admin dept. Edit: I have now 'bumped' the original suggestion in Kraut's team thread, so perhaps we should wait and see if anything transpires before actually creating a fresh thread for these guys?
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 07:04
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I'm in favor of giving this eager helper the possibility to help out with chores such as this one. Very much so, which is why I dished out some of the amount of work that needed doing in this department to monitor the reaction really :-) I'll kick this thread out to an admin, and while my voice doesn't carry that much weight it's a start. If others could chime in on the cause as well it would be nice. We're all in favor of people who like to haul a lot of weight around here after all :-) ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 07:10
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Nice one Olav! I agree 100% - we need to get guys like Travis on board asap.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 09:50
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Taking this on a stage further, Although Travis is fairly new here (somewhere just short of the 100 post mark at the present moment, although this number increasing rapidly all the time), he has clearly demonstrated a broad knowledge of prog and considerable enthusiasm for the site in those posts, and made a number of really well put together suggestions in the New Bands and Artists forum along the way. With Chris and Andy's blessing, I would like to propose that we offer him a role within the New Suggestions team as soon as he has made the 100 posts necessary for him to be moved up to Senior Member status. Chris could surely do with the help, since Andy has far too much on his plate with his Admin/Heavy/Math Rock roles to be able to help out there much these days, and by allowing Travis to post his suggestions directly in the team threads (as well as notifying the teams about suitable candidates posted by others that he had checked out in the New Bands forum) a large chunk of Chris's current workload would be taken off him, and Travis could also begin his crusade to mop up these old 'lost' suggestions with the freedom to roam the collab zone that I feel he would need to do this effectively. Just a thought...
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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 09:57
| I think that discussions about ''moves'' between genre teams and forum member promotions should be confined to the Collab Zone. Later. |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 10:13
Ooops, sorry - overstepped the mark... 
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 10:32
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I've opened a thread in the collab zone. Move your points to that one :-)
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 11:48
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Thanks Olav. Message to admin: If any of the stuff I have posted here is considered inappropriate for the public forums then please remove it. Sorry for any offence caused to anyone...I was just trying to help.
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Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 15:53
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I would be quite honored to be given the privilege of working with you guys, I of course love being a part of the site at all, but it has been a goal of mine to get an official position here at some point, as well. Hahaha, it did seem a bit odd that all this was getting posted on the rejected suggestion for some random post-rock band Here's hoping the deliberation comes out in my favor
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 16:13
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Well, a couple of interesting subjects came up just here and a couple of us collabs kind of used the opportunity for what it was worth *chuckles* Oh well, back to another unpaid obligation. 8 more tracks to take notes from on this creation... ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 16:19
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Hearing some interesting changing meters in that track, along with a few interesting musical changes. The songwriting is atleast a bit progressive. Anyway, thanks a lot for chatting with me, you and yam yam both
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 18:15
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Thanks. These days I'm in the position where http://www.facebook.com/notes/olav-martin-bj%C3%B8rnsen/forthcoming-cd-reviews/465841643761" rel="nofollow - luck isn't as important as time admittedly *laughs*
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 18 2013 at 18:52
I KNOW ALL YOUR SECRETS NOW ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 19 2013 at 14:34
Hahaha, indeed, and hopefully they won't have to keep them all from me soon, either
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 04:50
The team system is not like an electoral role or a referendum, nor is it like a parliament or house of representatives, therefore majority voting does not follow those models.
The teams are representative of the whole PA membership in that they make decisions on behalf of the PA, but they are not an elected body of representatives, they are a representative sample. Therefore sampling theory is more applicable to their voting, not majority voting.
Small teams chosen at random are statistically not very representative, for a 45,000+ membership we would need to have to have teams of 100s of people for that, which is impractical; for small teams (less than 100) we would ideally need unanimous voting to ensure their decisions represent the whole population, and that is also impractical. In sampling theory small sample sizes have a low confidence factor.
So we pre-select the team membership to be representative of the genre they are chosen for (we weight the sample), this means their "yes" vote is more representative of those people who would vote "yes" if put to a whole population referendum... it is not representative of the whole population. This means that any "no" vote represents a "no" from people who would have voted "yes" in the whole population, not of those who would have voted "no". (That is difficult concept to grasp if you try and relate it to majority voting - it's not if you relate it to sampling).
Unfortunately no one seems to understand this concept at all, so it was quietly swept under the carpet and majority rules are generally used regardless of what the guidelines say.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 05:19
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^ Yes, this is clearly an elusive concept to grasp but would repeated instances of a 'No' vote from a team member be indicative of their unsuitability as an objective arbiter for inclusion on PA? c/f unanimity of 'Yes' being inferred as consistent with the weighted representative sample? How can you be selected to be predisposed to exercise judgement? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 17:32
If, for example, we where to go back in time and ask the Symphonic Team to consider ELP's and Kraftwerk's suitability for Symphonic Prog then every team member would vote "Yes" for ELP and "No" for Kraftwerk. There should be no doubt or indecision on this and we are not looking for a majority vote - if the team is not unanimous in these two cases then any dissenters should reconsider their role on the team.
Sorry, I don't understand your last sentence. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 18:52
| reminds me a bit of the Electoral College in the US |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 21:10
OK thanks Dean, that's certainly helped me understand the sampling concept much better. All I meant by the last sentence was this: is there a possibility that team members are chosen/nominated because their opinions and judgements are known to be practically identical to those of the existing team members? i.e. the perfect candidate is the most malleable/supine candidate who will not rock the boat or show dissent etc? (this might not be the best thread to have this discussion in methinks) |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 21:20
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^ I don't know how things are currently, but when I was teaming the short answer is No; members were approached based on knowledge of both prog in general and special team needs. Chemistry was also an factor, but never was there any talk of preferring someone who might vote as I or We would. In fact that was the last thing I was interested in. |
Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 26 2013 at 13:40
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It is not a very difficult idea to understand, just one that is a bit 'out there.' By the way, are prospective Collabs singled out by other Collabs and suggested to the teams for deliberation, can anyone just 'ask' to be a member, or what is the process behind members becoming Collabs/Team Members?
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: May 26 2013 at 14:46
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Not a set rule in that department CJ. But usually an admin or the leader of a genre team will approach any candidates (through the PM system in the forum) if they would like to join a genre team once a team needs a new member and a potential candidate have been identified. ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: CoolJimmi
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 20:03
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So I guess I can't just waltz up in a couple months and request to be a member of the staff? Hahaha, only joking, of course...I plan on it  *distribute sarcasm as you see fit
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