Zappa’s opinion on prog
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Topic: Zappa’s opinion on prog
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Zappa’s opinion on prog
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 07:09
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Many people say that Frank Zappa didn't like Progressive Rock, and that he was not happy about his music being compared to Progressive Rock. Does anyone know what he really said, or where one can find information about the matter? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 07:21
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I have heard people say on Zappa.com zappas official homepage, wich i was a member of some time ago, well some people there said he liked Yes but dident lisen much to music he dident have the time, to much work with his own music. I dont realy know what he thought of prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 07:54
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I think Zappa belongs to select bunch of artist who became a genre unto
themselves along with (IMO) Elvis, The Beatles & Pink Floyd.
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 08:02
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100% agreed. |
sigod wrote:Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 08:19
Agreed 110% ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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, but what did he say about Prog rock?Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 08:21
He liked Gentle Giant and he asked Ian Anderson to visit him, just before he died. 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 08:25
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Ian Anderson is dead!!!!!!!!! Oh God!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 08:27
Smartarse !!!!!!!! 
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: zappa123
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 10:33
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WELL SAID,I THINK SO TOO. |
Posted By: zappa123
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 10:37
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iS THAT REALLY TRUE?Because I heard him said that Jethro tull is the worse group that he heard.Ian called him-he wanted to know why--but he newer got a response.Or I mixed up everything? My opinion is that he didn't like much progressive rock anyway. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 10:56
I reckon you're right. I cant imagine him liking the likes of Yes or Genesis to be honest. Too much pomposity, not enough humour and probably not enough musical innovation for him. When you consider the bizzare collaborations and way out projects Zappa worked on, something like Close to the Edge must have sounded as straight and predictable as the Stones to him. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 11:12
| Remember that Zappa always wanted to be a classical composer, but he just had a lot of rock roots. And yes, he loved Gentle Giant and Queen. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 11:15
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What a horrible thing to do, saying I hope you visit me soon, and than die ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 19:07
to me, jethro tull was always a bit lighthearted, similar to zappa in that respect. it seems like zappa and ian would have a lot to talk about then. zappa always took his music serously, but the music itself was often hardly serious. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 22:09
| I've read some of Frank's quotes on other artists and there not that many. But he's been known to do 180s on some opinions. He once quoted that while Sgt Pepper was ok, The Beatles didn't really appeal to him. Then he was quoted that I Feel Fine was one of the best pop songs ever done. He also said a few times that Lennon was the true genious of the group. He did the same thing on The Beach Boys as well. So go figure. |
Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 22:31
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People always say "we don't like that label." The Mars Volta is sure to say that every chance they get. I'd have no problem with esteemed label such as "progressive rock." I mean think of it...new ideas in music...what a sh*tty label!! ------------- ARTEMIA - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic L.i.E. - http://www.reverbnati |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 23:01
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i don't really think that these musicians have a beef with the label
"progressive rock", i think they have a problem with any label. As a
musician myself, I sympathize. Musicians of that kind of caliber are
trying to express themselves as individuals, not as part of some
subcategory. They want to have their own voice, a voice which defies
categorization.
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 23:18
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Well, progressive rock is not "new ideas in music" anymore, unfortunately. |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 00:20
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M: Did it hurt your feelings
in the late ’70s when all the punk bands were citing Jethro Tull
as the antithesis of rock ’n’ roll? Like, hey, why me? IA: It didn’t upset me particularly when Johnny Rotten lumped Jethro Tull together with a bunch of other things that he despised at the time. In recent years I’ve heard he says “Aqualung” is one of his all time favourite records, so who knows? It upset me more in the early ’70s when Frank Zappa said he didn’t like us. I was quite a fan of Zappa’s music, I admired and revered him as a contemporary, and yeah, having him turn around and suddenly slap us down obviously hurt a little bit. It made it that much more difficult a few years ago when I got a message from his son saying that Frank, who was terminally ill at the time, would really like me to call him and left me his home phone number. I sat and looked at this number, I even dialed it a few times and hung up, because I just didn’t know what you would say to a dying man, especially one who was on record as not liking my work. But I wanted to speak to him, I just found it really difficult. Then I heard on the news one day that he’d died. I felt a profound sense of loss and deep regret that I had never made that call. I would have liked to have spoken to him, just for a minute. ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 00:32
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TUXON : Smartarse vol 2
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