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Topic: 'Thanks' option for good reviewsPosted By: NotAProghead
Subject: 'Thanks' option for good reviews
Date Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:42
It seems it was not discussed yet. I saw such feature in other forums.
Many of us write reviews, but in most cases we don't know are they helpful for site visitors or no. There are only options "Send comments" and "Report this review".
I propose to add 2 more options to each review, something like this:
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Thus every site visitor (perhaps it's worth to give this possibility to unregistered members too) can thank the author for good or helpful review.
Clicking on "Thanks received" should open the list of grateful users.
In my opinion it is a simple and good form of feedback from readers to writers.
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Replies: Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:45
I will send a PM to the reviewer if I think they did a good job.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:51
Do you think many do it too?
For example, I only send comments when I see something wrong.
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Posted By: Theriver
Date Posted: February 05 2011 at 22:09
A thanks button would be a good idea. A quick and simple way to show we liked the review. It will a bit like the a "I like" option on Facebook.
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: February 05 2011 at 23:02
I like this idea, I'm always looking for feedback on my reviews and rarely get it.
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 00:25
Like say for instance, this idea/thread would get a "thank you". Thank you.
Great idea! A wonderful positive little addition and a way to give weight to good reviewers. I wonder how difficult the code would be to add. Amazon uses something along these lines for user product reviews.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 04:06
Catcher10 wrote:
I will send a PM to the reviewer if I think they did a good job.
exactly...
I get a few of those every month
Actually since fairly recently, there is "feature button" at the bottom of the review that as soon as you click it, you have a PM with the review at hand in the subject... you can make a love or hate mail.... fortunately I get a lot of love mails
Other "visible for everyone" options in the style "I like" or little hearts or hates will transform these reviews into popularity polls and will get abused of by fanboys and rating skewers
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 04:35
I think I would prefer something like "Was this review helpful" like they have on some sites. Thank you seems a bit twee and non professional to me.
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 05:06
Snow Dog wrote:
I think I would prefer something like "Was this review helpful" like they have on some sites. Thank you seems a bit twee and non professional to me.
Yeah, I agree on the terminology. The problem, though, is if we have positive and negative possibilities, which is how the "Was this helpful?" system is set up, it would open an entire new avenue of abuse that someone here will have to waste time on. I think that would be less of a problem in the purely positive system that NAP is describing. However, user feedback is usually to separate and hide the waste of time crap from the decent stuff, so other people saying this review is really good doesn't really help you because you've already read it.
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 05:19
Henry Plainview wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I think I would prefer something like "Was this review helpful" like they have on some sites. Thank you seems a bit twee and non professional to me.
Yeah, I agree on the terminology. The problem, though, is if we have positive and negative possibilities, which is how the "Was this helpful?" system is set up, it would open an entire new avenue of abuse that someone here will have to waste time on. I think that would be less of a problem in the purely positive system that NAP is describing. However, user feedback is usually to separate and hide the waste of time crap from the decent stuff, so other people saying this review is really good doesn't really help you because you've already read it.
I was thinking it could be used if, maybe, you bought the CD on the strength of a review and enjoyed it, then you would click on the "was it helpful!" button. But I must admit on reflection that it is more probably useful for a site that actually sells CD's or downloads.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 05:23
I 'm one who will send a private message to someone who does a particularly good review of something I already know or if I get something I really like based on their review. I'd also like to add that I've had some good personal recommendations from folks on this site and have liked everything I've tried.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 08:47
Snow Dog wrote:
I was thinking it could be used if, maybe, you bought the CD on the strength of a review and enjoyed it, then you would click on the "was it helpful!" button.
Not necessarily only in this case. You can own an album but find in reviews some new things about it.
And I think it's worth to show in the list of rat race leaders most prolific reviewers the number of 'thanked' reviews too, something like this:
1. The Coolest Reviewer (10 599) (666)
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:08
I find the entire premise of rating reviews pointless. I think too many people on Amazon simply grade the writer's opinion, not their quality of writing/reviewing. If they agree The Wall is awesome, they'll vote positively, and if they disagree with even a well written opposing view, they'll vote negative accordingly. I never use these "stats" to decide if I wish to read someone's reviews, and I find the little "scores" above each review irritating.
And in a place like this where people know some of the people behind the reviews, I can see it becoming a popularity contest or a situation where people go after reviewers who don't share their taste, just like they go after bands they seek to "lower" in ratings by giving one star reviews to Haken or whatever. I can see a person who hates Kayo Dot just clicking the negative button any time they see a Coyote review on the main page.
I think this stuff is really silly and degrades, I hope Max sticks with his method of allowing people to send easy PMs to reviewers they feel compelled to comment on.
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:39
^ Initial suggestion was only "Thanks" button and the number of thanks, no place for negative reactions.
Jim, you've written lots of reviews. Aren't you curious do people like them and which ones?
About PMs. Only few people bother to write PMs while clicking the button is a simple way to say "Good job, buddy".
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:47
NotAProghead wrote:
^ Initial suggestion was only "Thanks" button and the number of thanks, no place for negative reactions.
Jim, you've written lots of reviews. Aren't you curious do people like them and which ones? No.
About PMs. Only few people bother to write PMs while clicking the button is a simple way to say "Good job, buddy". Only a few people bother, but it is that "bothering" and the personal nature of it that makes it valuable. Drive by clappies or disses mean nothing to me as a reviewer, again, I think its a popularity thing based more on what the readers would think of the A)band and B) agreement with reviewer opinion, not quality.
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 10:08
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 13:01
NotAProghead wrote:
Do you think many do it too?
For example, I only send comments when I see something wrong.
Well...just like a "review" its only my opinion if I think someone did a good job.....I really don't care if others see if I think a reviewer did a good job...Its between the reviewer and I.
To me that is more genuine appreciation.
If I fail at sending a PM its probably because I immediately went out looking for the album I just read a review on...which is a good thing.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 13:30
How 'bout two buttons:
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 13:33
Tuzvihar wrote:
How 'bout two buttons:
Very nice.
And the reviewer can have a button like in reply .
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 13:34
I think second button is not necessary, we have "Reviews discussion" and "Reviews reporting" threads for this.
I explain why. If you click "Thanks" you either like the review or at least share author's point of view. Negative reaction should be explained.
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 13:50
From my experience as a reviewer, there should be a button that generates an automatic PM along the lines of:
"I registered with this site just to tell you how retarded you are. It's unbelievable that you are a five star member of this site, because you're a disgrace. I hope you go deaf because you obviously can't appreciate good music. Bye."
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 13:54
Epignosis wrote:
From my experience as a reviewer, there should be a button that generates an automatic PM along the lines of:
"I registered with this site just to tell you how retarded you are. It's unbelievable that you are a five star member of this site, because you're a disgrace. I hope you go deaf because you obviously can't appreciate good music. Bye."
At least that would save some people the effort.
As usual....Mr Skeletor is spot on......do you mind if I copy/paste your comment in future PMs?...of course I will pay you a royalty for each usage of say US$14million per post.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 14:10
I like the idea of a postive response option only much more than a like/don't like option.
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 14:18
^yes.
Lets not turn the intention of the OP on its ear. If there is one thing the site/forum/members could use is an infusion of positivity. Many of the responses in this thread are further evidence of that.
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 14:32
I love this idea. I agree that there should be no "dislike" option... for the same reasons facebook dosn't have one so that we can stay positive and not cause problems
------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 14:45
Proletariat wrote:
I agree that there should be no "dislike" option... for the same reasons facebook dosn't have one so that we can stay positive and not cause problems
I really wish Facebook had a dislike button.
But I'm a loon.
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 16:30
Henry Plainview wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
I agree that there should be no "dislike" option... for the same reasons facebook dosn't have one so that we can stay positive and not cause problems
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 16:43
Snow Dog wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
I agree that there should be no "dislike" option... for the same reasons facebook dosn't have one so that we can stay positive and not cause problems
I really wish Facebook had a dislike button.
But I'm a loon.
Gosh, so do I.
The lack of "dislike" on facebook makes one have to decide if somthing is disliked enough to write out a witty trolling comment rather than simply mark it as bad. Besides if it gets too bad you always can unfriend
------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 07 2011 at 03:26
Snow Dog wrote:
Tuzvihar wrote:
How 'bout two buttons:
Very nice.
And the reviewer can have a button like in reply .
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 07 2011 at 06:24
Sean Trane wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Tuzvihar wrote:
How 'bout two buttons:
Very nice.
And the reviewer can have a button like in reply .
In all serious this is a great idea - just a green button indicating - 'i read the review and enjoyed it'. No negative options please as you could get inundated by them and thats not helpful.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: February 07 2011 at 06:49
I think the existing "Send Comments to" link is more then ok.
I don't see the point of getting thumbs up messages without any comment in them. That's just spam. Not that I would be expecting much thumbs up
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 19:15
NotAProghead wrote:
It seems it was not discussed yet. I saw such feature in other forums.
Many of us write reviews, but in most cases we don't know are they helpful for site visitors or no. There are only options "Send comments" and "Report this review".
I would prefer that we concentrated on cleaning up what is considered a "review" on the stuff that we have, since a lot of the things attached to many albums are NOT a review and should not be there at all.
In general, if any of us has something to say about a review, we will send something to the reviewer anyway, so I imagine that a link for this or that is not necessary and might in the end, just flood the board with un-necessary stuff, specially if someone is going to object to something, and the Admins can not see what is going on underneath it. In this case keeping it above board would be better and more visible than a bunch of slurs and private insults.
Best keep things above board and in the open.
I have made many suggestions, none of which have ever been even discussed in good faith ... so I am not sure that it matters what we say here.
I would have liked, and would devote a bit more time to it is need be, instead of World of Warcraft, but I doubt that many of the folks here want an old fart like me, and I gave up looking for that one blonde some 40 years ago ... she wasn't worth the price of admission!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 19:23
Epignosis wrote:
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"I registered with this site just to tell you how retarded you are. It's unbelievable that you are a five star member of this site, because you're a disgrace. I hope you go deaf because you obviously can't appreciate good music. Bye."
Bull pucky ...
Ep ... it should say ... I registered with this site and read about Rush and am qualified to discuss KC after a few beers and Kiss after a few vodkas (that's what they called girls then!) ... and I find your review as revolting as ....
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 13:56
Bonnek wrote:
I think the existing "Send Comments to" link is more then ok. ...
Agreed.
In the end, the thumbs thing ends up getting us spam as you mention, and sometimes ... 1234565442 thumbs down and 3 thumbs up ... does that mean we should remove it from PA?
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com