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Topic: Pre-89 Music is DeadPosted By: Earendil
Subject: Pre-89 Music is Dead
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 17:36
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Replies: Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 17:40
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 17:41
I agree.
The simple fact is that all music recorded on magnetic tape is terrible. As a matter of fact, if the artist composed the music thinking he would have to put it onto tape, or anything non-digital, then the music is inherently flawed and not even re-recording it digitally can save it from being the foulest kind of "art" imaginable.
Face it, all music before the advent of affordable project studios with software workstations isn't really music at all, just clanging nonsense made by proto-humans.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 17:56
Pre-89 music is awful, they didn't have digital pitch adjusters for the vocalists in post-production so you know all the vocals are horribly out of tune, also studios only had 16 tracks or fewer, music done with less than 32 tracks cannot compete in todays competitive music market.
Most great music is on digital files. LPs, 8-tracks and cassettes are rubbish, they sound like garbage or trash.
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:00
Easy Money wrote:
Pre-89 music is awful, they didn't have digital pitch adjusters for the vocalists in post-production so you know all the vocals are horribly out of tune, also studios only had 16 tracks or fewer, music done with less than 32 tracks cannot compete in todays competitive music market.
Most great music is on digital files. LPs, 8-tracks and cassettes are rubbish, they sound like garbage or trash.
I know, right? How can someone sound great without autotune?
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:00
By inverting Truth, you merely highlight its absolute infallibility.
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:03
Say no to Pre-2011 music.
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:05
This thread is a trolling thread obviously.
With the classic prog album of the 70s, the golden era of prog, the argument does not exist. 70s prog paved the way for the prog era we have now. No 70s prog = no pre 89 prog at all.
End of discussion.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:05
I once listened to a record by a pre-89 band. I couldn't believe they once called this "music" - or even "art" - what we have now is miles above!
Any band that released music during or before 1989 isn't even worth mentioning in the burgeoning new art form known only as true music!
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:06
You're being a bit generous. I'd say Post-83 music is sh*t
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:52
This thread is ripe for a Just For Fun relocation.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 18:57
TheGazzardian wrote:
I once listened to a record by a pre-89 band.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 19:06
Whoah, how did this thread get here? Was it something I said?
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 19:42
Curse you Slartibartfast and your ability to predict the future!
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 20:31
That's a horrible song, though
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 20:44
Yeah. If your going to try to convince us that music doesn't suck, it's a bad idea to start with Yes.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 00:28
The problem with all that pre-1990 garbage is that it came out before Nancy Reagen won the war on drugs. All that hipster duffus cacophony was born of marijuana cigarettes and absinthe.
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:12
zappaholic wrote:
ALL MUSIC IS CRAP.
I honestly agree with this, I don't know why people have such trouble accepting it.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:33
The Zenith of prog creativity has to be
ELP - In The Hot Seat
Genesis - The Way We Walk
Yes - Magnification
they were all messing around before then
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:36
Tapfret wrote:
Everything sucked before and after this ------------------>
Oh true.
1967 + St Anger
Those were the only times music was good. Ever.
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 03:32
These days I only really listen to music recorded in the last week or so. After 7 days an artist becomes a parody of themselves, and totally prediciable and therefore artistically irrelvant to anything.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 05:04
Easy Money wrote:
Pre-89 music is awful, they didn't have digital pitch adjusters for the vocalists in post-production so you know all the vocals are horribly out of tune, also studios only had 16 tracks or fewer, music done with less than 32 tracks cannot compete in todays competitive music market.
Most great music is on digital files. LPs, 8-tracks and cassettes are rubbish, they sound like garbage or trash.
If Fripp knew we'd have mixers with unlimited numbers of channels, he would have waited 30 years to record ITCOCK.
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 07:42
I am glad this is in JUST FOR FUN now - To take any of this seriously would be a serious misjudgement of sanity.
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 12:08
i never understand the post-89/pre-89 arguments music changed way more between 1979 and 1980 than it did between 1989 and 1990
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 12:15
IMO the most important revolutionary moments in the history of modern pop music are: 1) 1955, birth of rock'n'roll 2) 1965, Bob Dylan goes electric, classic rock can come 3) 1977, punk lives a very short life but it gives us alternative rock, which is still with us today.
This leaves out all forms of metal and electronic music, but IMO they've had an organic evolution, they didn't go against what was before. Their history has "landmark" moments rather than "revolutionary" ones.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 12:51
topographicbroadways wrote:
i never understand the post-89/pre-89 arguments music changed way more between 1979 and 1980 than it did between 1989 and 1990
This is because your name is not Walter.
This is a good thing
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:06
Pre-89 music is not dead. It is not even undead, it is immortal.
In PA's studio album top 100, there are 71 pre-89 albums, of which the first one is encountered on #13.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:20
I only listen to ancient Greek music, which vibrations had been recorded on old ceramics discs.
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:21
someone_else wrote:
Pre-89 music is not dead. It is not even undead, it is immortal.
In PA's studio album top 100, there are 71 pre-89 albums, of which the first one is encountered on #13.
Just a wild guess, but I don't think you were supposed to take this thread seriously...
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:42
Padraic wrote:
someone_else wrote:
Pre-89 music is not dead. It is not even undead, it is immortal.
In PA's studio album top 100, there are 71 pre-89 albums, of which the first one is encountered on #13.
Just a wild guess, but I don't think you were supposed to take this thread seriously...
You are obviously right, my answer was too serious (but while doing some research I detected a possible error in the WR calculation, used for the ordering).
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:19
I have no time for your retrograde buffoonery.
Accept creativity, refute the ramblings of extinct species.
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:30
The only real music was released in April 1983.
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Posted By: Baggra
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:48
Okay, I realize your all not being serious on this thread, but Id like to say:
for myself the turning point, the most important period in "modern" music is '60-'64*, when artists began to put out their OWN work and not just mirror previous success/fad.
* even though the music was rather shoite.
And you know what? Im not being serious here either.
Devil's advocate, like.
Recall its the Baggman who previously claimed he LIKES shameless copyists - new bands imitating the 70s prog.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 20:12
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Even I will not be that mean to Walter.
Sorry, but I personally feel that the post is mis-guided, ethnocentric and disrespectful to a lot of music ... you might as well stretch your point to say that Beethoven is stupid, Mozart sux and Bach is a flippin idiot! ... and that today's music makes all of them look like white punks on dope ... actually, I would like to suggest the opposite, and I am not trying to tube down a band!
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 20:35
No music, as long as it is listened to and appreciated, is dead, regardless of what any "fashion", or "in vogue" period would dictate heck, i listen to and appreciate music recordings from before 1900, let alone 1989, and they work wonders for me the worst thing that anybody can do is to dictate what has value and what does not All music is not crap, it is all good -to whomever likes it
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 21:20
Clearly the socio-economic, societal, and cultural climate of the pre-1989 era precludes any music made in the centuries of human existence before 1989 from being good. Only a moron would attempt to argue this point.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 21:22
$ART_FORM that was created [before/after] $DATE is obviously terrible
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 22 2010 at 03:03
"Just for Fun"
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 22 2010 at 03:51
I think all of 1989 music on PA should be put in the section proto-progressive.
Or, no, all music before 1969 should become proto-proto-progressive, no?
Or maybe Procol Harum was proto-proto-proto-progressive, Gabriel era Genesis proto-proto-progressive, Fish era Marillion proto-progressive and 1989 was where it all really began with Dream Theater's When Dream And Day Unite and Marillion's Season's End
I think neo will start in 2015
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 13:46
Don't you mean "Post Neo"?
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 13:56
CPicard wrote:
Don't you mean "Post Neo"?
No, that will only start in 2025
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 16:33
presdoug wrote:
No music, as long as it is listened to and appreciated, is dead, regardless of what any "fashion", or "in vogue" period would dictate heck, i listen to and appreciate music recordings from before 1900, let alone 1989, and they work wonders for me the worst thing that anybody can do is to dictate what has value and what does not All music is not crap, it is all good -to whomever likes it
Shhhhh!!!
That is way too musically literate to be posted here and everyone will think you are being stubborn like Mosh!
Actually there is a good point to that ... as an "experiential" art, it dies the moment after it passes, and it is your mind that recreates something of that moment that is not necessarily a part of it.
Recordings and such, allow for us to "relive" that moment and feeling, and even that is hardly the original feeling from that one specific moment in time ... and thus, when it changes so much, eventually most of us will get bored with it.
I live for those moments, and the only music that stands up in my ears and mind is the music that ... opens up that incredible array of images and thoughts and everything else you can think of ... and the day it came from, has absolutely nothing to do with it at all ... not one iota.
I do think that Walter's comment has a lot more to do with the commercial crap than it does the music itself. It has a tendency to make the music appear to look better when so few people around you have the patience or the ability to even sit through 5 minutes of what you and I can listen to.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 16:53
Moogtron III wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Don't you mean "Post Neo"?
No, that will only start in 2025
This timing seems right to me, but the name Post Neo will only be used in France and Québec, and maybe in some other French-speaking territories which may become acquainted with prog in the meantime.
In the rest of the world, this genre will be known as "Neo-Post".
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 17:01
im began a King Crimson marathon of all the studio albums, (particularly for the 70s output, we'll see what happens after Red ). I'm up to In The Wake of Poseidon and all i can say is...
"I DISAGREE"
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 17:26
moshkito wrote:
presdoug wrote:
No music, as long as it is listened to and appreciated, is dead, regardless of what any "fashion", or "in vogue" period would dictate heck, i listen to and appreciate music recordings from before 1900, let alone 1989, and they work wonders for me the worst thing that anybody can do is to dictate what has value and what does not All music is not crap, it is all good -to whomever likes it
Shhhhh!!!
That is way too musically literate to be posted here and everyone will think you are being stubborn like Mosh!
Actually there is a good point to that ... as an "experiential" art, it dies the moment after it passes, and it is your mind that recreates something of that moment that is not necessarily a part of it.
Recordings and such, allow for us to "relive" that moment and feeling, and even that is hardly the original feeling from that one specific moment in time ... and thus, when it changes so much, eventually most of us will get bored with it.
I live for those moments, and the only music that stands up in my ears and mind is the music that ... opens up that incredible array of images and thoughts and everything else you can think of ... and the day it came from, has absolutely nothing to do with it at all ... not one iota.
I do think that Walter's comment has a lot more to do with the commercial crap than it does the music itself. It has a tendency to make the music appear to look better when so few people around you have the patience or the ability to even sit through 5 minutes of what you and I can listen to.
Hi, Mosh, I like and relate to your concept of "reliving" a moment and feeling with a recording-man, it is like true time travel! In some ways, for myself, the further back in time, the greater the thrill! But , like you say, the feeling does change in a way over time-i guess where we may differ is that the date of a recording does have something to do with it, for me. Not in a sort of "classification" way, but as a sort of historical study, you might say (part of my background is historical research, archaeology, museum work), so dates mean something,but not in a pretentious, "show me" kind of way-my next project is to find the recordings from the pianist Hoffmann that were made literally days from Edison's cylinder machine invention (1888) Now, talk about a blast from the past!
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 17:58
someone_else wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Don't you mean "Post Neo"?
No, that will only start in 2025
This timing seems right to me, but the name Post Neo will only be used in France and Québec, and maybe in some other French-speaking territories which may become acquainted with prog in the meantime.
In the rest of the world, this genre will be known as "Neo-Post".
I'm pretty sure all the Latin people will use "Post Neo" (Spain, Portugal, Brasil, Mejico, etc.). It makes more sense in these linguas.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 06:14
^You're right, I guess...
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 09:50
Anyway, couldn't we consider that any composer born before 1989 is to be rejected?
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 11:14
CPicard wrote:
Anyway, couldn't we consider that any composer born before 1889 is to be rejected?
FTFY
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 12:08
CPicard wrote:
I'm pretty sure all the Latin people will use "Post Neo" (Spain, Portugal, Brasil, Mejico, etc.). It makes more sense in these linguas.
The analytical study of the arts is more valuable and important in those areas (and languages) than it is in English ... in both America and England, too much is centered on the commercial side of things (how imperialistic of them, hey???) and to appreciate and study the arts and make sure they are recognized, is not important ... and the result is ... you get a board like this that tries to make it better, but "fans" tend to trash any literary or intelligent discussion.
My own father was a well known name in Portuguese Literature ... and since his death, to give you an idea, between my mom and many others almost twice as much as my dad had published in his own lifetime has been done since 1979 ... and mom is still going strong ... !!! that says something for the studies of the language and the arts ... which is not being done with a lot of this music. And when I try, and do, it gets criticized as not important or conjecture ... what the heck are all those studies about?
And this has been something that I really would love to see this board be able to handle better ... but I am not sure it can happen until the leadership sets their mind and attention to it ... or add people that can think in those literary terms ... which we do not have enough of. But if the literary and educational side of it is not there, it won't happen. While I can appreciate a Snow Dog and Walter Digs Tunes just fine, in the end, folks that reply the way they do, is not going to help the "analysis" ... but it will help proliferate the post counts! There is a small side to that ana;ysis, but then, not everyone thinks that academic studies are important. I just think that some are out of line and counter-productive to the process and improvement of the art and its place in time ... but I am not sure those people care, of think about that ... they are kids having fun, right? ... just like you and I?
The terminology is not as important as the work itself ... but simply a way to explain some of the trends in it ... and yes, it might become termed that in the future ... but "post neo" will eventually lose its tracking, since every new form of any art is almost always "neo-post" ... which means the term is not flexible or capable of describing the art correctly. Compare that to "romantic era" in the arts ... which is about 75 years long and is well represented in the major arts ... and all of a sudden a lot of the terms used in the progressive area are really bad, and not descriptive of the work at all ... just it's sound ... and the "art" needs to be bigger than just its sound.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 19:05
harmonium.ro wrote:
IMO the most important revolutionary moments in the history of modern pop music are: 1) 1955, birth of rock'n'roll 2) 1965, Bob Dylan goes electric, classic rock can come 3) 1977, punk lives a very short life but it gives us alternative rock, which is still with us today.
This leaves out all forms of metal and electronic music, but IMO they've had an organic evolution, they didn't go against what was before. Their history has "landmark" moments rather than "revolutionary" ones.
Interesting. I would say : 1955 rock 'n' roll; 1969 post Sgt. Pepper/In The Court improved multi-channel recordings; 1983-86 Yamaha DX7 and the appearance of the digital sound; 1992 Nirvana's Nevermind bring back the electric guitar and alternative rock to the fore.
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 20:09
presdoug wrote:
No music, as long as it is listened to and appreciated, is dead, regardless of what any "fashion", or "in vogue" period would dictate heck, i listen to and appreciate music recordings from before 1900, let alone 1989, and they work wonders for me the worst thing that anybody can do is to dictate what has value and what does not All music is not crap, it is all good -to whomever likes it
......You just had to go an make this all serious? Er, please tell me you didn't think this thread was serious.
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 20:50
I do not mean to "make" anything more serious than it is, not really my intention, but when someone starts off by saying that music pre-89 is dead and has no value-man,that gets me going in a serious way,you bet! I guess my own perspective on music appreciation is serious,but i don't mean to make it that way for anybody else that doesn't feel comfortable with that-what i am trying to say is that this topic should be as serious as an individual person feels it should, and some will be more intent and serious about it than others i do not mean to "dictate seriousness", is what i am trying to say
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 20:52
presdoug wrote:
I do not mean to "make" anything more serious than it is, not really my intention, but when someone starts off by saying that music pre-89 is dead and has no value-man,that gets me going in a serious way,you bet! I guess my own perspective on music appreciation is serious,but i don't mean to make it that way for anybody else that doesn't feel comfortable with that-what i am trying to say is that this topic should be as serious as an individual person feels it should, and some will be more intent and serious about it than others i do not mean to "dictate seriousness", is what i am trying to say
But, the whole pre-89 music is dead thing was a blatant joke.....
Whatevs.
CLASSICAL MUSIC OR NOTHING
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 21:00
JJLehto wrote:
presdoug wrote:
I do not mean to "make" anything more serious than it is, not really my intention, but when someone starts off by saying that music pre-89 is dead and has no value-man,that gets me going in a serious way,you bet! I guess my own perspective on music appreciation is serious,but i don't mean to make it that way for anybody else that doesn't feel comfortable with that-what i am trying to say is that this topic should be as serious as an individual person feels it should, and some will be more intent and serious about it than others i do not mean to "dictate seriousness", is what i am trying to say
But, the whole pre-89 music is dead thing was a blatant joke.....
Whatevs.
CLASSICAL MUSIC OR NOTHING
I understand the concept of "kidding around is kidding around", anyway, no hard feelings on this, and am sorry if i came across a bit heavy sounding
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 22:08
moshkito wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Even I will not be that mean to Walter.
Sorry, but I personally feel that the post is mis-guided, ethnocentric and disrespectful to a lot of music ... you might as well stretch your point to say that Beethoven is stupid, Mozart sux and Bach is a flippin idiot! ... and that today's music makes all of them look like white punks on dope ... actually, I would like to suggest the opposite, and I am not trying to tube down a band!
You have trouble with the concept of sarcasm, don't you?
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 08:11
Say no to post-Christmas posts, for I fear that they will be fueled by booze, liquor, cheap chocolate and various gastric problems.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 12:05
clarke2001 wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
IMO the most important revolutionary moments in the history of modern pop music are: 1) 1955, birth of rock'n'roll 2) 1965, Bob Dylan goes electric, classic rock can come 3) 1977, punk lives a very short life but it gives us alternative rock, which is still with us today.
This leaves out all forms of metal and electronic music, but IMO they've had an organic evolution, they didn't go against what was before. Their history has "landmark" moments rather than "revolutionary" ones.
Interesting. I would say : 1955 rock 'n' roll; 1969 post Sgt. Pepper/In The Court improved multi-channel recordings; 1983-86 Yamaha DX7 and the appearance of the digital sound; 1992 Nirvana's Nevermind bring back the electric guitar and alternative rock to the fore.
Yours is an interesting view too. But I just saw Synth Brittannia on BBC and apparently the 80s synth sound is a creation of the late 70s... Stylistically of course, I have no idea about music technology.
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 12:17
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 12:36
CCVP wrote:
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 13:27
Starhammer wrote:
CCVP wrote:
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 16:00
1337 speak Caio?
Gah....soooo 2004
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 17:33
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 07:13
clarke2001 wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
Say NO to post-2200 BC ziggurats!
Say NO to post-3000 BC dolmens!
Say YES to post-4000 BC dinosaurs!
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 17:42
JJLehto wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
^ Say no to pre-2005 internet languages
And I wasn't even the one using it?
Say NO to people who make little sense!
U |>1|>|\|'7 Uz|> |>4 1|\|73r|\|375 |3-4 2005?
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 18:36
SAY no TO VIOLENTS
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 04:41
Say something.
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 09:17
CPicard wrote:
Say something.
something.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 19:45
Roland113 wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Even I will not be that mean to Walter.
Sorry, but I personally feel that the post is mis-guided, ethnocentric and disrespectful to a lot of music ... you might as well stretch your point to say that Beethoven is stupid, Mozart sux and Bach is a flippin idiot! ... and that today's music makes all of them look like white punks on dope ... actually, I would like to suggest the opposite, and I am not trying to tube down a band!
You have trouble with the concept of sarcasm, don't you?
You really should look in the mirror sometime!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 20:51
CPicard wrote:
Say something.
No.
------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
Posted By: Rockjf1
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 15:14
Is there someone in this forum who's ever listen to the beatles? pre-89 music is not sh*t what is music to you mainstream bullsh*t common, those people who played music back then paved the way for us they did miracles with crappy sound recording systems I totally disagree with this forum.
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 15:18
Rockjf1 wrote:
Is there someone in this forum who's ever listen to the beatles? pre-89 music is not sh*t what is music to you mainstream bullsh*t common, those people who played music back then paved the way for us they did miracles with crappy sound recording systems I totally disagree with this forum.
This thread is a joke aimed at a forum member who is severely against post-89 music.
Posted By: Rockjf1
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 15:47
Alright music is an art in all forms well almost all forms:P I just don't believe that pre-89 music is sh*t to me 89 reminds of Def Leppard and that my friend is crap:P
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 17:52
Your friend is crap?
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 19:32
Rockjf1 wrote:
Is there someone in this forum who's ever listen to the beatles? pre-89 music is not sh*t what is music to you mainstream bullsh*t common, those people who played music back then paved the way for us they did miracles with crappy sound recording systems I totally disagree with this forum.
Had Beatles in our house in Brazil before you were born ... we're talking 1964 and 1965 ... we already could sing "She Loves You" yeah, yeah, yeah!
The point is not that music before 89 was better, or worse ... I really think that the point was that music has become a very commenrcial excuse for creating music, and that tends to dilute the ability to tell what is better or worse, or listenable. And when new "sub-genre's" are created for neo-CDshops, that will never be selling that stuff anyway ... gotta love the irony there! ... it makes it look like some of the music since then is better, because it is more widely seen because of the internet.
The date basically says ... before Internet ... After internet. And 45 years ago, there was no Internet ... and hearing things like the Beatles, or Rolling Stones was amazing and totally different ... and original and creative -- because there was nothing else out there that was visible, or heard! Today, that is not an issue!
And with the internet, everyone can have their website and everyone can sell and everyone is a star! ... and I really think that is what the whole hooplah is about. It is a very valid comment ... but also one that is going to be mis-represented and mis-understood because everyone says something ... in their own language and no one is interested in anyone else's point, except to trash them ... how post 89 that is, btw!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 18:32
Hi,
This is the "Just for Fun" section. This thread is here because it is
"Just for Fun". Please, if you post in this section with the intention
of seriousness or any other activity that is not "Just for Fun", you are
in clear violation of the "Just for Fun" by-laws. It should also be
noted, that as a "Just for Fun" poster, I realize that this post is
"Just for Fun" and should not at all be taken seriously, unless the end
result is more non-"Just for Fun" replies. In which case this post
should be taken very seriously and discussed somewhere outside of "Just
for Fun". Like one of the many sections of the forum hierarchy above
"Just for Fun" in which all posts must be taken very seriously and
debated with only clean, pressed culottes while the dogs rest quietly in
front of the hearth, refraining from any activity that might be
construed as "Just for Fun".
That being said, thank you to Zappaholic and CPicard for their commitment to "Just for Fun".
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 21:45
Rockjf1 wrote:
Is there someone in this forum who's ever listen to the beatles? pre-89 music is not sh*t what is music to you mainstream bullsh*t common, those people who played music back then paved the way for us they did miracles with crappy sound recording systems I totally disagree with this forum.
The Beatles are terrible, the bands after 1989 improved their music and made it easier to dance to, we don't have to listen and be bored with old music, no one likes all that old music for old people. After 1989 we forget the Beatles and have much better music and everyone agrees.
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 13:34
Pre-1989 music is soooo 2010.
Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 14:11
Are you kidding me! The 70s were the greatest era for music of all time and probably always will be. Prog or not late 60s and 70s were and still are amazing. Back then good recordings weren't necessary because many bands had talent! Now I'm not saying the prog of recent time is bad. Their are many great bands like PT and Moon Safari, but nothing can beat the classics- Pink Floyd, Genesis, Camel, Gentle Giant, VDGG, and Yes. All amazing bands!
But I do agree with you on one thing. The 80's were terrible. With the exception of Bacamarte.
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 14:13
^ I know something you don't know.
------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 17:02
CPicard wrote:
Pre-1989 music is soooo 2010.
I still liked it when the Backstreet Boys were an underground band.
Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: January 01 2011 at 19:02
Hipsters everywhere lol
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: January 01 2011 at 19:10
^ Better to be a Hipster than a wookie.
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 08:01
crimhead wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Pre-1989 music is soooo 2010.
I still liked it when the Backstreet Boys were an underground band.
But how could they be underground if they were already in the backstreet?
Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 10:59
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Yes but the Post-Post-Post-Retro guys will like the 70's prog in 2035.
------------- Language is a virus from outer space.
-William S. Burroughs
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 13:45
Rottenhat wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Yes but the Post-Post-Post-Retro guys will like the 70's prog in 2035.
What about the Post-Post-Post-Neo-Retro-Neo-Post-Revival guys?
Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 14:04
CPicard wrote:
Rottenhat wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present!
Yes but the Post-Post-Post-Retro guys will like the 70's prog in 2035.
What about the Post-Post-Post-Neo-Retro-Neo-Post-Revival guys?
The Post-Post-Post-Neo-Retro-Neo-Post-Revival guys are not allowed to have opinions about music. They must listen to the state-supported electro-vintage-fusion-agit prop-heavy-postpunkpopmusic or the chip they have implanted in their brainstem will terminate their life support. :)
------------- Language is a virus from outer space.
-William S. Burroughs
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 14:05