Radiohead vs. Muse vs. Porcupine Tree
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Topic: Radiohead vs. Muse vs. Porcupine Tree
Posted By: adace1
Subject: Radiohead vs. Muse vs. Porcupine Tree
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 17:38
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3 of the most epic bands in the universe. Please discuss.
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Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 17:45
Oh crap. I messed up the poll.  Sincerest apologies. You can just ignore the poll if you want and just discuss. Sorry!
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 17:57
where is Radiohead in the poll  -------------  
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Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 17:59
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I sure wish this site let you edit posts/topics like others do...
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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 18:06
| muse above all. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 18:53
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adace1 wrote:Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 19:38
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^oh ok, I see where you can edit the post and change the poll options but how would I add Radiohead as another option?
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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 19:39
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Radiohead > Porcupine Tree >>>> Muse But I'm a big fan of all three. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:06
Replace the "All equally" option? Anyway, Radiohead would get my vote. The others haven't released anything as good as OK Computer or Kid A.
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Posted By: The Tourist
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:32
| I would love to vote for Radiohead if I could, haha. Actually PT and Radiohead are on about equal level for me. Don't care very much for Muse. |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:44
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Porcupine Tree by a long margin over Radiohead a long margin over Muse. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:52
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Funny thing about Radiohead, is that in their documentary Meeting People is Easy, someone asked them "Was the new album [OK Computer] at all inspired by bands like Genesis or Jethro Tull?" and someone (I think Collin) said, "No, we all HATE progressive rock music." It's funny because they were recently on the cover of Prog Rock Magazine, and they're constantly affiliated with that scene. Plus all of the synths and mellotron and whatever on their albums, it would make sense that they like prog. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: anoblesoul
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:54
| My wife likes Muse, but I haven't really gotten into them. I am probably one of three people not to have heard Radiohead. I do have some PT. Perhaps I'll have to borrow one of my wife's Muse CD's. |
Posted By: mEP
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 21:14
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 21:27
My thoughts exactly. MUSE just doesn't do it for me for some reason.I like RADIOHEAD a lot but PT is a top three band for me,so no contest. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 21:42
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Ok everyone, it's finally fixed! The one person who liked them equally has now voted for Radiohead lol. Thanks for the help! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/adace/?chartstyle=lastfmblue">
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Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:09
| I'll go with the majority on this one. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:39
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Something weird, checked this thread and people who know me must be aware I would vote for none of the three. Nevertheless, appears as if I had voted. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 23:22
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Radiohead slightly over PT. Muse is pretty good too. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 23:27
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 23:31
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Apples and Oranges and Bananas....PT for me. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 01:41
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3 of my favourite bands of the last 10 years
Of all the albums released I would take Muse - Absolution and Radiohead - Kid A over anything that Porcupine Tree have done. However if you take the whole catologue of releases then Porcupine Tree by a long margin over Radiohead with Muse a distant third.
(voted PT)
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 01:57
Great joke  !
Not a fan of all three, but PT at least have few good prog rock albums. Radiohead are hardly prog, but some their releases are interesting as well. Muse was interesting MTV heavy wing's hero, anyway they are better than Nickelback . |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 02:03
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My favorite band vs. one of my top favorites vs. a band I used to like a whole lot more than I do now. Radiohead, all the time. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 02:14
No, not at all. If I didn't think they were all incredibly good, I wouldn't have made a poll comparing them. I will agree that Radiohead is not prog in the strictest sense but they're pretty experimental. Oh and Muse is better than most bands out there including, obviously, Nickelback. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/adace/?chartstyle=lastfmblue">
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 04:36
They're incredibily pretentious, and probably consider themselves above classification, 
It was even more cool in the 90's to distsnce yourself from prog than it is now. Radiohead were at a pivotal point in their their career when they did OK Computer. The last thing they wanted was for the music press to start making comparisons to prog rock. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 04:37
Exactly. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 04:45
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Porcupine Tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radiohead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muse. I love Porcupine Tree, only like 1 Radiohead album and can't stand the rest of their releases, and can't stand Muse. ------------- 
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 05:08
Ditto. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 05:33
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Radiohead easily. Don't like the other two at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 05:55
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PT , BY FAR OF BEETHOVEN & PF ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 06:34
none of the three, epic bands??? Am I missing something here in this poll
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Posted By: Darklord55
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 07:26
Have, like and listen to all three. Porcupine Tree is the best by 29, 029 feet. Imho. 
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 08:33
| Porcupine Tree. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 09:00
| PT easy |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 11:43
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Porcupine Tree is only one Prog band here. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 11:46
May be not very diplomatic and a bit too straight, but possibly not too far from truth?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 11:51
Truth?
 Is this carved in stone tablets and archived away in some hallowed temple of musicological academia somewhere? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 11:55
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1-Porcupine Tree
2-Muse
3-Radiohead
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 12:01
Even looking formally Muse is tagged as prog-related on PA (what means NOT PROG), Radiohead are slightly different case, formally tagged as Crossover Prog (what in case of very inclusive PA Crossover term means often almost the same). Interesting "truth" description BTW 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 12:45
Porcupine Tree began in Psyche/Space based upon their first three albums, then were moved into Heavy (mainly because of Absentia/Deadwing/Blank Planet). Radiohead were added into the PA as Art Rock before the formation of the Crossover category - at that time there was no claim of inclusivity or ambiguity implied in their addition and additions made prior to the split cannot be judged by latter additions after the split.
If we were to evaluate all three artists based solely upon their last albums (The Incident, The Resistance and In Rainbows) then their "prog" hierarchy would be reordered - quite how far that goes is (again) subjective and how much each album is "prog" is pure conjecture since there are no empirical rules that can be applied to quaitify "progness" in any pragmatic way. Using some arbitary "standard" of Prog could place the order as Exogenesis --------- > Weird Fishes ------> Time Flies. ------------- What? |
Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 13:17
I was just about to write something similar but then noticed that Gandalff already had done the business.
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Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 13:45
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Does it matter who's actually prog and who's not? The genre doesn't matter here. Only the music. As long as it's a band listed on this site, it's fair game.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 14:28
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Radiohead - the only truly revolutionary band on the list.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 14:43
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Though not a big fan of either, two months ago I was listening to a lot of Porcupine Tree, a great band, they're even in my Top 3 Last.fm charts! lol!
Muse I really don't like, while Radiohead has Kid A and Amnesiac as great albums for me but I'm not often in the mood for them.
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Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 15:07
You asked us to discuss, we're discussing.
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Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 15:18
I know. I'm just participating in the discussion myself. My opinion doesn't matter any more than anyone else's. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/adace/?chartstyle=lastfmblue">
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Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 15:22
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Neither does mine - it's just that I always think I'm right.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 19:39
And what's not prog about Paranoid Android? I haven't heard all the stuff Wilson released before he became this 'prog saviour' but that song is as progressive (if not more than) as anything he has released on the albums from Lightbulb Sun onwards, which is mostly extended alt rock/metal songs anyway.
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 21:36
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Radiohead ------------- 
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 21:53
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PT by a thousand percent.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 02:41
I think it´s important if we´re just on Prog Rock site. But I comprehend your reasons and respect it. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 02:48
I agree about Paranoid Android being a prog song, but one song does not make them a prog band. Most of their music is great and unique, but prog? nah. -------------
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 11:10
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PTree easily!
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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 11:13
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Radiohead
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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 11:15
They shouldn't be on this forum, They are not prog at all. -------------
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Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 11:37
I have to agree with that -
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Posted By: StrangerByTheMinute
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 13:07
| The progressive one. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 16:25
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Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 17:37
'fraid not.
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Posted By: Elderflower Man
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 09:42
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Muse and Radiohead didn't write Anesthetize. ------------- All your hearts now seem so far from me, It hardly seems to matter now. |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 10:25
^^^ Indeed. ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 14:41
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I don't know the Muse and the other two are almost neck and neck but I will climb up the tree.
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Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 16:41
Anesthetize is indeed a masterpiece but Radiohead also made some prog masterpieces like Paranoid Android and Pyramid Song and Muse made prog masterpieces like New Born and Citizen Erased. I'm a big fan of Porcupine Tree. Don't get me wrong but compared to Muse and Radiohead, they just don't have as much diversity in their music. But I guess that's because PT is more traditional prog whereas Muse and Radiohead are "new-prog" or "prog-lite". ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/adace/?chartstyle=lastfmblue">
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 19:24
Thankfully. It quite lives up to its name.
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Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 15:00
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This is a tough one. I freakin love P-Tree. But I think I love Radiohead just a hairs breath more. Two amazing bands. It stands to reason that P-Tree would get more votes on a Prog site, because theyr'e more Proggy than Radiohead. But Radiohead still qualifies.
I really want to like Muse (because I want to like as many modern Prog'ish bands as I can). But I can't connect with them. The songs sound "samey" and not nearly as adventurous as the two bands. I literally can't figure out why they're so big...what are others hearing that I'm not? I mean I don't care for Iron Maiden much either, but I can "hear" why some people might dig them a lot. I don't get Muse.
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Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 17:49
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Three of my favorite bands in the modern era. I can't decide....
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Posted By: parapet
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 01:39
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i see there is no need to vote i can't anyway  PT |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 01:42
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Posted By: parapet
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 01:43
hahaha, and this is great!!! no one will ever write anesthetize  |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 02:35
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PT by miles and miles. Since I really like PT and I really dislike Muse and Radiohead But Muse moreso. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: December 04 2010 at 02:26
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I heard some Muse and thought they will be just the thing for those who have not heard Queen or Rush... Radiohead, well, they were so worried about being labelled (by theuK press and they know very well that a label can be a millstone in a fashion / ephemeral type world) as a prog band 'cause of punk negative connotations (stil!!) that when an OK PC/Mac song finishes it sounds like an edit to me. As if they were afraid to develop their music instrumentally. DIsappointing ways to finish some good ideas... Kid A has some good moments - all thanks to the totally under-publicised European RIO /Avant scene. Still there's some hope for progressive rock in the mainstream. P Tree. Thought the Incident was a non-Incident. Very disappointed. Mind you I was also the one person who didn't like his solo album either. Still, with shed loads of great albums and lots of live issues/ DVDs/ oddities to fleece, er, I mean contribute to the fanbase's music collections P Tree get this still every which way. But it's good to know bands try on many fronts to develop rock music. In fact with the music biz in it's 65% loss of $$$ in 10 years, artistic rock may be the ony way to go. |
Posted By: ceccobebi
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 09:52
| porcupine tree,posssibly with tom york |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:32
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OK, I was channel surfing and just caught the last half of a fairly recent Muse concert. I liked them. I'm thinking for this poll you should have put in The Pineapple Thief instead of Porcupine Tree and you'd have three bands with a similar sound.
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Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:49
| Porcupine Tree for the win! |
Posted By: steppenfloyd
Date Posted: January 01 2011 at 13:38
| Porcupine Tree |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:06
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I'm fan of all three. Some of my favourite British alt rock. Don't care if they're prog or not, I like it.
My order of preference is
Porcupine Tree
Radiohead
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:11
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Porcupine Tree, no contest at all. Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape > Anesthetize
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:31
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1. Muse
2. Radiohead
3. Porcupine Tree ------------- 
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:43
This man has good tase in his PTree. |
Posted By: Mista-Gordie
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:57
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hahahahahaahahaahhahahaha good one! Porcupine Tree. Muse is a decent band and Radiohead is a good one, but nothing compared to PT
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 20:15
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Porcupine Tree... easily Muse is alright. Radiohead =  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: davidk
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 10:27
| Definitely Porcupine Tree! Steve Wilson is a genius! Radiohead is great in their own way, Muse kind of sounds like a copy of Radiohead in some cases, but they are alright. |
Posted By: Timmo
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 18:23
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Probably my three favorite bands at this point. If you'd asked me two years ago, it would have been PT, hands down, no contest, by a country mile. But then SW released a truly forgettable navel-gazing solo album, followed up with a meandering PT album that never found its groove. When I first heard The Incident I gave it 2 out of 10 stars, and after many listens and four live shows, I give it 7 on a good day. Muse is a fantastic live show. I've now seen them three times. The music itself on the studio releases is kinda cheesy and OTT, but they are AMAZING live. I've never seen Radiohead live, but I had the amazing experience of seeing PT and Muse live on the same day at Coachella 2010, and then Thom Yorke's Atoms for Peace band the following night. A short daytime festival set did not show PT off at their best, but I've seen them over 20 times, and know how good they are live. Muse ruled, and Thom Yorke KILLED. He did the entire Eraser album, which is a very unfinished affair in its studio release, and nailed it, plus a bunch of stuff like Feeling Pulled Apart by Horses, Airbag, EiiRP, and Give up the Ghost (ended up on King of Limbs). It was a nearly religious experience. I'd have to say Radiohead at this point. The new album is killer, particularly Codex, and I've been obsessively playing Kid A, Amnesiac, OK Computer and In Rainbows for the past months. Can't wait to finally see them live, whenever it is that they tour. |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 18:29
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Muse. "The Resistance" is brilliant. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 19:37
Muse = one of the most epic bands in the universe? lololol I went with PT ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Mia
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 23:19
| I like all three but without a doubt Porcupine Tree, Steven Wilson is a genius!! |
Posted By: Mia
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 23:21
Really, I hated The Resistance... I liked Black Holes and Revelations way better. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 23:58
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Can't really choose between Radiohead and Porcupine Tree. Two of my favorite bands ever. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: sayon
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 02:03
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Radiohead? Revolutionary? Are you kidding? They are VERY derivative and haven't really done anything but synthesis, and not in a best way. Simple and primitive enough to get understood by masses, but slightly different from most other bands, enough for "Oh my god that is so Experimental and Unique!". Is the case with most of RH fans I know in real life, unfortunately. It even goes to extent of naming "Kid A" the best electronic album ever, lol PT is just a good prog band, their music is more fine and complex. IMO, PT >>> RH > Muse |
Posted By: JonV
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 04:17
| Radiohead, in my opinion... I've probably listened to "OK Computer" more times than any other album (cassette FTW). |
Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 01:07
| Surely Radiohead? |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 06:44
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PT
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Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 10:47
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I think it would be better to have PT vs Radiohead ------------- Once upon a time there was some writing on the wall we all ignored, until the time that there was war and feasts of famine at our door |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:25
You nuts? Calling Radiohead derivative and Porcupine Tree not? ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:34
Gobdamn it, Kid A IS the best electronic album ever. Well, that and Vangelis' Blade Runner Soundtrack.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:54
| Not much love for Radiohead or Muse on this poll. |
Posted By: sayon
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 14:50
No, sir, as you might see, i called PT "just a good prog band".
Sorry to ask, but how many electronic bands have you ever listened to? |
Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 15:53
| Radiohead! |
Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: May 24 2011 at 08:20
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I chose Radiohead for Kid A and Amnesiac. They're are some of the greatest albums I ever heard. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |