The worst of the worst
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Topic: The worst of the worst
Posted By: octopus-4
Subject: The worst of the worst
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 03:31
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Each band has its worst. Which is the worst of the black list above ? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 03:50
Ouch! Another negative poll! I´ve been beaten by another members latterly for Genesis negative poll! 
Good luck!
By the way, my choice is Camel, this album is even weaker than Final Crap. Other albums I don´t know, I´m not a masochist namely.
Opening option "Others" is like proverbal opening of Pandora´s box. Especially the 80´s were literally hotbed of terrible music, not only in Prog. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 03:58
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I think that Crimson will win this poll hands down.....
in a good way (the least vote for it)
But Genesis 's worst is Invisible Touch, while Tull's worst is certainly not dot com, but Under Wraps, and Floyd's worst is Momentary Lapse Of Reason
Soooooo my choice is "others" to protest on your lack of correct taste  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:03
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After Abacab I didn't try anything else by Genesis...sorry. Almost the same about Tull, I don't have so much money to waste wiith worst. The list is based on albums that I own. I should have based it on PA ratings instead. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:07
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1. I don't see why The Final Cut is placed on this list.
2. Abacab is the only of these albums I have heard. I agree that it is Genesis' worst
(Note: I have not heard Calling All Stations). 3. I vote for "Others": the poorest album made by one of the major prog bands, as far as I have heard, is:
Roll the Bones - Rush
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:11
1) Personally I don't think it's a poor album but it's considered the worst of Pink Floyd (see other polls). 3) I don't have any Rush album, this is why I have added a "other" choice. Of course there are surely things poorer than those listed, but this is intended about "bigs" only. My definition of big depends on the numbers of ratings that's an indicator of the number of fans even when the rating is negative. Of course this applies to Rush, VDGG and all the bigs that I didn't add to the list because I'm not "expert" enough of their music. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
someone_else wrote:Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:47
TFC always gets an unfair trial, IMHO
I'd say most people hate this album, because it's seen as the one Waters forced on the band
and ultimately broke Floyd..... but most of these TFC "unfans" don't actuallyt know the album per se... they just ignore it....
Musically it's not great, but it's still fairly good (much better than that atricious MLOR album), vocals and lyrically speaking it's all Waters ....which is what Floyd fanboys hate about it and won't give it its chance
If this was a Waters solo album, it would rank as his second best (after amused To Death) , edging slightly Pros & Cons
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:50
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I totally agree. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:53
| The Final Cut and Dot Com don't belong here. |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:56
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from the list my vote goes to Genesis! |
Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:02
| I agree with the consensus that TFC doesn't belong on here. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:08
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:09
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Again to clarify: TFC is here as worst of Pink Floyd, not because it's a bad album. The "bad" rating comes mainly from the recent poll about "Battle of PF albums". I like TFC. (well, to be honest I like everything Pink Floyd did with or without Waters) ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:50
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None of the albums that I know here are really bad in my opinion, but I haven't heard them all Love Beach (why should one?), and Big Generator maybe once. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:53
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All on the list that I know I like. So no vote until I can think of a "other" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:54
| Love Beach I think is a strong candidate. Not all others are really bad IMO |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:58
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I'm surprised to see that Merci has still with no votes....It's just my opinion, but I think that is really bad... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 06:01
| Dot Com is a funny pick too. Consensus is that worst Tull album is Under Wraps. (Though it's actually A in my personal opinion.) |
Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 06:13
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Pink Floyd - The Final Cut is wonderful! Tear down them walls you losers!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 06:19
I'm wondering...you didn't just vote for it by any chance did you? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 08:07
| Dot Com is for me a great album! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 08:10
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So not the worst in the list that's what this poll is about. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 08:42
Poll Question: Which of those worst albums is the worst ?  TFC has earned its spot in this list by popular demand, imo. but there are far worst albums than that one, love beach if so bad, but so bad, soooooooooooo baaaaaaad ... even the band member are actually ashamed of it ------------- |
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 08:50
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Voted for Love Beach, because really, how couldn't I? It's the dreadful album that every prog fan loves to hate. I do listen to it on occasion, though; even have a vinyl copy. As for the debate over The Final Cut...I wholeheartedly support its inclusion on this poll. It has very staunch defenders, but an equally devoted cult of rabid haters. I happen to belong to this latter group...just a wretched, navel-gazing affair all around. However, Love Belch really is objectively worse. ------------- Certified Obscure Prog Fart. http://scottjcouturier.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Loose Palace of Exile - My first novel, The Mask of Tamrel, now available on Amazon and Kindle |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:21
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this poll should be named "the worst of the best" since they are bad album by good bands, most album are bad but because that specific band got us used to good albums, like floyd, first a lot of really good psychedellic prog until ummagumma and then from TDSotM to the wall are all comercially acclaimed albums often considered masterpieces of prog. But then they did TFC which didnt do well or got very mixed comments, TFC actually might have been anothers band masterpiece, but it was too low to meet floyd's fans expectations. ------------- |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:29
Typing error or your intention?  ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:38
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The only one from this list I think is truly awful is Love Beach. Of the others, there are some very good tracks and redeeming features, and I shudder to think why The final Cut is included. Sorry, but I really can't see the point of these negative polls. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:41
| Accidentally voted The Final Cut because my instinct picked the best... The Final Cut is an amazing album. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:42
I´ve warned him. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:46
This is true of Love Beach also. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:02
Just like positive polls, but inverted ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:31
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Btw, positive polls have already been done. What's the sense of starting a poll with Selling England By The Pound, In The Court of Crimson King, The Dark Side Of The Moon, Close to The Edge end so on ? A possible meaning of this one ? Which bands are able to do good even when bad ? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:37
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Not sure what criteria you are using to call these the worst. Yes's lowest rated studio album isn't Big Generator, it's Open Your Eyes (although in my opinion their worst is Union). ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:37
No...the poll is unambiguous......vote for the worst it says clearly. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:38
The criteria is the authors own opinion. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:41
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I have already explained the criteria. I have only included albums that I own. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:45
They are all 1's. Union has marginally more depth than Big Generator. Oh, they are all just atrocious. For me, Talk is the worst. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:49
For me Open Your Eyes ***** Talk ***** Big Generator ***** Union ***** ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:51
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I haven't heard most of these, but I enjoy the two I do have - Merci and Thrakattak. Out of those two, I like Thrakattak less than I like Merci. No vote, though.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:56
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Suonare Suonare has "Maestro Della Voce" on it. That's one of the best PFM songs. -------------  |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:56
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Ok, let me say what I like less by band. Just to be clear: Genesis - everything after Duke Yes - Big Generator (I like Talk, instead) Pink Floyd - I like everything, including Final Cut and Momentary Leapse of Reason (maybe this last I like less) Camel - The Single Factor (Pressure Points if live albums count) Magma - No doubts about Merci Jethro Tull - Dot Com is the only quite bad that I have. I remember bad comments about "Too old to Rock and Roll", but I like that one. PFM - After Suonare suonare I stopped buying their albums. Just restarted this year. KC - I can't find one really bad so I went just for the low rated, as with PF. Renaissance - I hate that album. One of my few one-stars ELP - It's leading the poll ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:59
Well, "Come ti Va..." is likely worse but I don't have it. I remember some songs from the radio. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:59
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The Final Cut is, collectively with a few other Floyd albums, the best album ever. Abacab is a fun album, Big Generator is okay Fine, Love Beach, but its not without its moments. |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:03
| I've not heard any of these except The Final Cut, which is brilliant, so no vote yet. |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:08
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:38
I really like music from Merci, and once I got past the first track (I even like that in a humorous fashion), I was very pleasantly surprised. "Elephas Levi" and "The Night We Died" were early standouts for me, but I like the "Otis"'s) (especially the second one) and I "I Must Return" too ("I Must Return" being very good when played back-to-back with "The Night We Died"). I'm actually surprised at how many people seem to hate the album, though I can understand "Ooh, Ooh Baby" and to a lesser extent "Do the Music" getting derision, and of course there's that hilarious TV performance by Vander of "Otis" (but I think the studio album version much better and he's done various good live performances of it -- fun track). I did a topic on it before, so it might be interesting for some to see other opinions on Merci: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58773 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58773
Octopus, did you find Merci uniformly bad -- any music you liked from it? As for the list; no vote. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:41
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I voted for The Final Cut. ------------- |
Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:43
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Yeah, The Big Generator was a bad album, and so were The Final Cut and The Single Factor...but NOTHING can compare to how horrendously bad Love Beach was. Easily one of the worst collection of sounds I have ever heard.
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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:18
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I have defended Love Beach many times in the past and will again today. It no way deserves the hate it gets. i really like Canario, For You and the epic Memoirs of an Officer and a Gentleman so for such a hated album it gives me nearly 30 minutes of good music.
Canario is one of E.L.P.'s finest moments imho:
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:36
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goddamnit TFC is putting up a fight ------------- |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:43
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:48
You recently called me insane.  ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: mark4art
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:54
| Big Generator would get my vote closely followed by Abacab. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:17
| KC doesn't belong on this list. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:18
| Timeline, worse than Camera Camera, worse than pop Genesis/Yes, an album bad enough to give giant turds like Eye II Eye or St Anger a superiority complex. Love Beach is not such a bad album at all, it's just the artwork and the "dude, how the f*** could ELP make this album" syndrome. |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:49
| Final Cut. IMHO it's a good album if viewed as a Roger Waters solo album. I don't think it's a Floyd album-no Rick Wright and no writing credit for Gilmour. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:57
I was joking. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:59
The Division Bell 
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Posted By: RUSHMANIAC
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:09
| Roll the bones is one of my favorite Rush records!!!!!! |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:14
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:19
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:22
Poor Final Cut... 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 16:00
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The best of Magma would struggle to avoid my vote, so Merci has to be my choice. The only album on here I would just rate at a scrapy 3* is The Single Factor. The rest are all 2* or 1* garbage. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 17:43
Yeah strange easily the best album in that list ... -------------
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 17:53
Ouch that's bad. I mean really bad. Is this meant as a self-parody? |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 18:05
I take it you haven't heard Merci. I would've thought it might appeal to your tastes more than Magma's best. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 18:07
Let's discuss. The Final Cut is a very competent release that has struggled beneath the overshadowing stigma of Roger Waters' bloviation. As someone else said, a strong Waters release, perhaps, but as a Pink Floyd record it is the absolute sticks. Not even the pretense of band cooperation, no writing credits for any of the other members, a continuation of the bleak, self-concerned lyricism that bogged down The Wall, and (most importantly, perhaps) the lack of Wright's keyboard contribution...this is a terrible Floyd record. But not a bad Roger Waters record. Of course, this brings to the fore the question of how we objectively judge a piece of music. Am I condemning The Final Cut because it's a terrible piece of music, or because it represents what is, in my opinion, the complete nadir of everything that made Pink Floyd powerful and compelling? Probably a little bit of both, at the end of the day. I will say unequivocally that I find Waters' wailing drone really insufferable on this album, but how much of that I can attribute to unconscious prejudices towards a man I consider to be a complete, fully-fledged jackass is beyond me. In short: I never listen to it, I find it repugnant, thematically dull, irritating, self-conscious, self-indulgent, and (dare I say it?) kinda whiny. I really, really don't like it. But to each their own. ------------- Certified Obscure Prog Fart. http://scottjcouturier.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Loose Palace of Exile - My first novel, The Mask of Tamrel, now available on Amazon and Kindle |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 18:37
| I'm One of the Few who enjoy the Final Cut. ThrakAttak is about the worst thing I've ever heard and it got my vote. Love Beach is alos right there. |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 19:04
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Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut? ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 19:11
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 19:27
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I can't speak for the others albums on this list but neither Abacab or Final Cut is the worst from the respective artists. I vote "other" for Can's self-titled album |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 20:05
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Love Beach. I do not appreciate record companies forcing epic prog rockers to become pop stars. even the cover is atrocious. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 21:58
I like it. In fact I love it. ------------- ''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.'' - Albert Camus |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 21:59
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 23:00
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Seriously, that album has some damn fine songwriting, some of Rogers' best as a matter of fact, it has gorgeous, memorable melodies, and the story is more concise, more relatable and way more moving than the dull, overfed monster that The Wall turned out to be. It's one of my favorite Floyd albums, easily. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 02:23
| King Crimson by far, the rest I like |
Posted By: edible_buddha
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 03:08
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Hawkwise got it right as far as PF is concerned.
OK, The Final Cut is an exercise of an overinflated ego, an exaggerated experiment, however, it did have some strong points that maintained my interest. A very hit and miss album. However, The Division Bell sounds like a band that had already broken up. It truly did sound like a contractional obligation where the band members simply couldnt be bothered - which is what happens when bands go well and truly overboard in trying to be 'commercial'. No passion, no ideas, and incredibly flat.
At least Roger tried something..... before he left PF (with great animosity i might add).
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 03:24
| The Final Cut is a four star album ya'll. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 05:28
It's a tarantella...you can find lot of people able to play this kind of music around Naples. I think Maradona could do it, too. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 05:49
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The Final Cut is the worst garbage ever released as a so-called Pink Floyd album, but I'm surprised that Big Generator is considered to be a worse Yes album than Onion or Open your eyes.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:00
1. It lacks melody 2 Roger Waters can't sing 3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album 4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else? 5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer! 6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough. 7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer. 8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway. 9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over. so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap. ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:04
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I like it. Hate Mostly Autumn though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:06
Ooh, boohoo, fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this. ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:09
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With the exception on Abacab, I don't really know these albums. I don't think Abacrabs is that bad. I only know Love Beach thanks to An Officer And A Gentleman being in a box set I have. I played it once in LP form and the album cover I do know all too well. Thrakattak is really just a bunch of noodling around and they don't make any pretenses that it is an actual album. So if pressed to pick one it would be that one even though it's not fair as it isn't a regular studio release and I do actually have it. The one good thing I will say about it is I got it used. But it wasn't for sale as cheap as it should have been.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:10
...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.....you'll get over it.I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:12
Hate Mostly Autumn since when Angela left the band. So I don't really hate Mostly Autumn because this si just Bryan Josh's group. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:15
Don't care if you don't like them. I don't like their current line-up either. But what does Mostly Autumn have to do with this topic? ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:15
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TFC. On Love Beach: I doubt it'd get as much flak as it does without the same cover, and I honestly think it's a 3 star album. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:16
Other ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:16
 Perfectly told! Bravo! Totally agree!------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:19
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If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album. In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until On a Island . -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:21
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......after that Floyd didn' exist because Waters dissolved the band. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:24
I agree about "AMLOR" being a Gilmour solo-album (but I don't mind, it's obvious who is the better musician of those two), but "The divison bell" IS a group album. Lots of it was made by David, Rick, Nick with Guy Pratt jamming on the Astoria. ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:27
Yup. Well said. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:28
Simply my opinions about youy points (I have started this poll so I'm feeling guilty for the poor TFC).. 1) Two Suns in the Sunset and The Gunner's Dream don't lack melody Imho. 2) I can agree about Waters' singing skills, but the worst song of the album is sung by Gilmour 3) It's a Pink Floyd album made of songs discarded from Animals and The Wall. It lacks the keyboards of Rick Wright and this is its weakness. 4) Remember that when it has been written UK were fighting against Argentina in the Falklands, the Iron Lady was Prime Minister and the British welfare was cancelled. It was the yuppies' age so reminding people about bad things happening was not so useless actually. 5) David Gilmour sings on Not Now John (point 2). I don't know if he was thinking to Waters when he was crying "f**k all that" 6) Partially right, but some songs were ready since before Animals. When Waters came to studio for the new album after the Wall he had two projects ready: TFC and Pros and Cons. The band choosed the first. 7) Rick was sent out of the band during the recording of The Wall. He took part to the tour as additional musician and not as part of the band. So he's the only person who earned some money from that disastrous tour. 8) Nick Mason was there as always. 9) Where is rock in a masterpiece like Tangerine Dreams' Zeit ? Said so, I think it's the worst Pink Floyd album, but it's still better than many other bands' masterpieces. Instead of worst I could better say "less good". ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:29
High Hopes is enough to justify the whole Gilmour's career IMO. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:30
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Division Bell terrible boring album just trying make Wish you were here all over again only good moments on that album are Ricks . song writing on that album is really not that good and its to long .. oh Ok High Hopes is a good enough tune but that's about it. -------------
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:31
For AMLOR Gilmour used songs that were ready for his new solo album so it's effectively a follow-up to about face. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:33
I agreed with you then you added the High Hopes bit which to me is as boring as the rest. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:37
You're wrong about point 6. Waters let the band choose in 1978 between "The Wall" and "Pros and cons". There was no way that David and Nick could choose for another album than "The Final Cut". Waters even set a deadline for that album to be finished, knowing that slow worker David Gilmour wouldn't have enough time to come up with better songs himself. Point 8: Yes, Nick may be there (except for "Two suns"), but you hear much less drums than on any other Floyd album. Very much the same for point 5: Yes, Gilmour's voice is there, but only for half a song, the rest is just Waters either whispering or screaming, but never singing. Point 9: I don't know, I don't listen to Tangerine Dream ... but if it lacks rock, then I don't know if I will like it. Then again, one would probably not expect any rock from Tangerine Dream, but I certainly expect some rock on a Pink Floyd album.------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |