The Eternal Jazz-Fusion Question:
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Topic: The Eternal Jazz-Fusion Question:
Posted By: 40footwolf
Subject: The Eternal Jazz-Fusion Question:
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 01:48
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Decide! ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
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Posted By: mark4art
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 01:57
| Surely the poll should have another option, both of the above 2 options. |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 01:58
I considered doing that, I but decided that it would be more interesting if the voter were forced to make a concrete choice. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
mark4art wrote:Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 02:01
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of course Jazz-Fusion is Jazz fused with rock elements, else it would be Rock-fusion,
just like Jazz-rock is rock with jazz elements and Rock-jazz is jazz with rock elements. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 02:35
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Fusion is an official genre of Jazz. I find rock and roll bands like Return to Forever and Mahavishnu in the jazz section at the local pop shop. Having said that rock and jazz are flexible musics at their art core so jazz has been included in rock (Black Sabbath) while the fusion bands are pure jazz that use the blues basics of a rock tune (e.g Stanley Clarke and George Duke doing Louie Louie... or was it Wild Thing?) to show off, er, that is, to develop stylistically superior themes. I suppose the ultimate see sawing peak of jazz and rock cannot be bettere defined than the works of Jeff Beck. Sophisticated harmonies and exquisite solos. Goodbye Pork Pie Hat may be the best examle of a rock guy doing justice to say the least to a jazz classic. and what of Joni Mitchell with Jaco and Pat Metheney on that fabulous live album. Folk-rock-jazz-fusion? or just Folkjokeopus as Roy Harper may call it. But realy fusion was born roughly about the time of Miles' In A Silent Way sessions as rock became more interesting and rock was incorporated into jazz. I know from bitter experience that general public rock and pop listeners hate jazz. So it's jazz with rock elements (in chicken egg terms.) |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 02:38
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Because it is called "Jazz Fusion" here, the suggestion has been made that Jazz is the main component in this fusion of musical styles, not necessarily Rock. Therefore I go for option #2, which comes closest. ------------- 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 02:50
| Well, it's called fusion for a reason, so it means the rock and the jazz are in there in a balanced degree. Not just one maine component + some other ornament. |
Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 05:17
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The answer, I believe, is all of the above. ------------- Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ... |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 09:08
| i must say that i simply cannot make a single choice-i love both approaches equally, as long as they are rendered in a way i like |
Posted By: JakoCba
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 10:23
| I vote for Jazz + rock but I think the term fusion is bigger, for example the Jazz with Latin music, with flamenco or with world music also are Jazz fusion. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 24 2010 at 11:11
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This is very tricky and I have to confess not maybe my favourite genre. For me Jazz fusion is horizontal rock and vertical jazz i.e. predominantly (very complex) rock rhythms wedded to chord and scale choices sourced predominantly from jazz harmonies. Either way the worst excesses of the genre strike me as a shed-load of chops and a thimble full of memorable melodic ideas. ------------- 
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Posted By: danielfortin
Date Posted: September 28 2010 at 23:20
| Jazz with many other elements and style, rock being just one among the others. |